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[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Our Brendan ...... right now on Granada Reports .

[red till i die!!]

born on the island of ireland mate so he's irish and just happens that he was reared in the northern half of the island.
nonetheless he's an irishman

Damn duel nationality claims another Ulsterman for the Emerald Isle.     :D

[Kenny Kan]

i fully expect pep guardiola to burst out of a brendan rodgers suit at the press conference.

Maybe it was a job share, and the same scenario will unfold in Guardiola's marital bed ....Imagine it ,*peps wife screams * as Brendan's head emerges from the immaculately pressed pyjamas of her husband  saying "Stay put gal oim going to give you a roight seeing to"

He's not Irish, hes NORTHERN IRISH. Im going to get patriotic for the first time in my life if/when this goes though.

Nice to see someone from Ulster making the news for something other than blowing people up


(or golfing  )

I like you. You're a bloody witty b@rstard, you make me laugh. 

Hang around here eh, you're entertaining.

[fivecups]

Great honour for a Northern Irish man to be manager of Liverpool. Biggest link since Elisha Scott. There's an almighty responsibility on his shoulders, he's got an almost impossible task. Lets hope he can pull off a miracle. Good luck.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Great honour for a Northern Irish man to be manager of Liverpool. Biggest link since Elisha Scott. There's an almighty responsibility on his shoulders, he's got an almost impossible task. Lets hope he can pull off a miracle. Good luck.

i`m not that clued up on irish geography but john mckenna was from county monaghan, isnt that in northern ireland too?
mckenna was a huge figure in our formation, houlding owned the club but mckenna was the man that set it up, it was mckenna who applied on the clubs behalf to join the football league and he was basically our first manager too, he then headhunted the great sunderland title winning manager tom watson and brought him here where he won us our first ever league title.

[maguskwt]

It's gonna be rodgers... You heard it here first...

Is he Brendan Rodgers in disguise

Didn't I say it? Didn't I say it???     

[Thommo's perm]

It's gonna be rodgers... You heard it here first...

Is he Brendan Rodgers in disguise

Didn't I say it? Didn't I say it???     

You meant Ted

[fivecups]

Great honour for a Northern Irish man to be manager of Liverpool. Biggest link since Elisha Scott. There's an almighty responsibility on his shoulders, he's got an almost impossible task. Lets hope he can pull off a miracle. Good luck.

i`m not that clued up on irish geography but john mckenna was from county monaghan, isnt that in northern ireland too?
mckenna was a huge figure in our formation, houlding owned the club but mckenna was the man that set it up, it was mckenna who applied on the clubs behalf to join the football league and he was basically our first manager too, he then headhunted the great sunderland title winning manager tom watson and brought him here where he won us our first ever league title.

Very interesting YC. Somewhat confusingly Monaghan, while being part of the province of Ulster is not part of Northern Ireland!

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Great honour for a Northern Irish man to be manager of Liverpool. Biggest link since Elisha Scott. There's an almighty responsibility on his shoulders, he's got an almost impossible task. Lets hope he can pull off a miracle. Good luck.

i`m not that clued up on irish geography but john mckenna was from county monaghan, isnt that in northern ireland too?
mckenna was a huge figure in our formation, houlding owned the club but mckenna was the man that set it up, it was mckenna who applied on the clubs behalf to join the football league and he was basically our first manager too, he then headhunted the great sunderland title winning manager tom watson and brought him here where he won us our first ever league title.

Very interesting YC. Somewhat confusingly Monaghan, while being part of the province of Ulster is not part of Northern Ireland!

are you sure mate? mckenna was a member of the orange order and i dont think many of them came from the south of ireland!
mckenna`s massive involvement in liverpool`s early years was one of the reasons that old myth about liverpool being a protestant club and everton being a catholic club came about but the truth is sectarianism didnt play any part in the formation of either club, if anything booze played more of a role than anything else.
infact mckenna and houlding were major players in everton football club alongside catholics like george mahon before the split and the only church involved in the saga wasnt catholic or protestant it was the methodist st domingo`s which as everyone knows was the forerunner to everton (and liverpool).
so there were protestants, catholics, methodists, baptists you name it involved in everton. the split started because most of the members of everton werent happy that the chairman houlding who was a brewer was charging the club high rent (on behalf of another man) and he also wanted the team to get changed and have after match celebrations in the nearby sandon boozer which he owned. mahon who was a teetotaler led the breakaway faction of about 300 members but mckenna thought they were over reacting and stayed with houlding, he was one of only 18 who stayed with houlding at anfield.
why so many were pi$$ed off with houlding was that st. domingo`s football team was originally started by the methodist rev. ben swift chambers to keep the locals away from drink and to get them interested in sport. the anfield and everton area`s of liverpool were the 2 most densely populated working class communities in britain, they had twice the population density of salford at the time which itself was considered to be `densely populated` by the government.
the board of st domingo`s and everton had worked hard in the community to get people off the booze but now they somehow found themselves in the position of having a brewer as chairman and if that wasnt bad enough he was trying to use his boozer as the clubhouse. to the likes of mahon it was totally unacceptable and opposite to ethos of why the club was formed in the first place. it was that that caused the split.
the easy thing would have been for mckenna to follow the crowd but he didnt, he had great friends in the breakaway group (and he stayed great friends with them all his life) but he chose to stay with houlding and he started to pick up the pieces.
john mckenna built liverpool fc, he was the one who lobbied the f.a to get us into the football league when there was a lot objection against it, he was basically our first manager, he was the man who put together the `team of mac`s` (our first ever side), he was the man that took us out of the second division and he was the man that brought the best manager in the country tom watson to the club (it was watson who won us our first two titles and turned us into a heavyweight in the game)
it was also john mckenna who turned a little embankment at the back of walton breck road into the most famous terrace in football, john mckenna commissioned archibald leach to build the spion kop.
the tremendous job he did building liverpool fc didnt go unnoticed in the corridors of power and in later years he became head of the football league and vice president of the f.a, posts he held for over 20 years and infact he died in office at the age of 81, he didnt retire. mckenna is often credited as being the man that gave english football its reputation of being clean and free from corruption. in those early years between the wars mckenna came under tremendous pressure from powerful people to allow gambling on footy (football pools etc )but he was steadfastly against it, he knew that because the people were so poor the temptation to throw games would be so great and the game would end up a corrupt joke. he got called all the names under the sun but he was adamant.
although the pools eventually came in after mckenna died it is said that the clean culture and reputation of the english game was instilled by mckenna.
thats why the history books dont record him as john mckenna but `honest john mckenna`.
when he died 3 liverpool and 3 everton players carried his coffin, dignitaries came from all over the world and the everton chairman unvielled a plaque at anfield commemorating a man who was an evertonian, liverpudlian and one of, if not the, greatest administrator the sport has seen in this country.

[D___C]

There is indeed Orange Order in South... especially the three counties of Ulster that are in the Republic (Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan).

Its a result of the plantation of Ulster (9 counties).. so when the six counties became N.Ireland.. that left three in Ulster in the Republic.

Brendan classes himself as Irish (not Northern Irish) and has represented the Republic at underage level. Its not anything against Northern Ireland and for many it isn't a political issue. Its a result of the existence of ghettos TO THIS DAY in Northern Ireland (Protestant and Catholic) which means you are segregated from the other community and therefore cannot relate. So when the Republic is playing everyone in the catholic community follows the game, you identify with the team.. and thats you hooked. Northern Ireland is less backward that it used to be and there is more cross community work.. still has a way to go though.

[Benny The Noon]

N.Ireland less backward !!!!!!

Pri.ck

[burjennio]

There is indeed Orange Order in South... especially the three counties of Ulster that are in the Republic (Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan).

Its a result of the plantation of Ulster (9 counties).. so when the six counties became N.Ireland.. that left three in Ulster in the Republic.

Brendan classes himself as Irish (not Northern Irish) and has represented the Republic at underage level. Its not anything against Northern Ireland and for many it isn't a political issue. Its a result of the existence of ghettos TO THIS DAY in Northern Ireland (Protestant and Catholic) which means you are segregated from the other community and therefore cannot relate. So when the Republic is playing everyone in the catholic community follows the game, you identify with the team.. and thats you hooked. Northern Ireland is less backward that it used to be and there is more cross community work.. still has a way to go though.

Thanks for that history lesson then DC, us backwards folk need remindin of our heritage in the hours of the day when we are sober enough to eat our weight in potatoes   

And more Catholics still support N Ireland over the ROI in Ulster, its not such a black and white issue. Not every catholic is a staunch nationalist, just as every protestant isnt drapped in the union flag singing "God save the Queen" every ten minutes.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

There is indeed Orange Order in South... especially the three counties of Ulster that are in the Republic (Donegal, Cavan, Monaghan).

Its a result of the plantation of Ulster (9 counties).. so when the six counties became N.Ireland.. that left three in Ulster in the Republic.

Brendan classes himself as Irish (not Northern Irish) and has represented the Republic at underage level. Its not anything against Northern Ireland and for many it isn't a political issue. Its a result of the existence of ghettos TO THIS DAY in Northern Ireland (Protestant and Catholic) which means you are segregated from the other community and therefore cannot relate. So when the Republic is playing everyone in the catholic community follows the game, you identify with the team.. and thats you hooked. Northern Ireland is less backward that it used to be and there is more cross community work.. still has a way to go though.

cheers D_C never knew that, so when you see ulster playing in the rugby (i`m not a rugby fan but i`ve watched a couple of games on sky when nothing else was on, spend most of the game trying to figure out the rules) it`s not a nothern irish team as such but a team from the 3 counties in the republic?
my own family originated from ireland donkeys ago and came here during the famine, i think they were from galway. i asked an irish fella years ago in work where was galway and what was it like and he wasnt very complimentary! 
but i think he was from a county nearby so i think there was a bit of that liverpool / manchester (or probably a better example would be lancashire / yorkshire) type rivallry thing going on.

[D___C]

cheers D_C never knew that, so when you see ulster playing in the rugby (i`m not a rugby fan but i`ve watched a couple of games on sky when nothing else was on, spend most of the game trying to figure out the rules) it`s not a nothern irish team as such but a team from the 3 counties in the republic?
my own family originated from ireland donkeys ago and came here during the famine, i think they were from galway. i asked an irish fella years ago in work where was galway and what was it like and he wasnt very complimentary! 
but i think he was from a county nearby so i think there was a bit of that liverpool / manchester (or probably a better example would be lancashire / yorkshire) type rivallry thing going on.

Yep.. Ulster Rugby team encompasses 6 from NI and 3 from ROI... Tommy Bowe is from Co.Monaghan (one of the three counties in Ulster that aint in NI) and he started off his career with Ulster for 5 years.

Galway is in connaught (the most economically disadvantaged of the four provinces)

And as for gutless Benny and the edit to his post... from "NI less backward??" (thus questioning it).. to now "NI less backward!!". You're out of your depth here Benny boy. Go play with your lego this is grown up stuff.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Thanks for that history lesson then DC, us backwards folk need remindin of our heritage in the hours of the day when we are sober enough to eat our weight in potatoes   

Fucking Brilliant ...what would we all do on this forum bereft  of  Kerry's/DC's vast knowledge on every conceivable subject in the Universe .