Liverpool FC Forum

[Kenny Kan]

i really haven't mader my mind up about the owners one way or the other. they're making it very hard for me to do so. their net spend since being here is about £45m. hardly heavy investment.

Also, the stadium issue isn't an issue for me. They aren't going to build one. Not sure how people can't have realised that by now.

Have to say, I'm starting to get reservations about them - something doesn't sit right with me. They seem hellbent on cutting wages, paying lower than average wages, making LFC a commercially viable package and all that old bull, but they don't really appear to be 'in it' for the reason the fans are - to be the best football team around. Of course, you expect them to look after numero uno but if we're going down this 'Arsenal route' then, I'll say now, WE'RE FUC.KED INTO MEDIOCRITY. Finishing 4th will be like winning the league!

[The Good Yank]

I also see a sell to buy strategy in the works, however, I think it's more along the lines of occupying a place on the team sheet and replacing it with another player.  It's not a dollar for dollar (pound for pound) sell to buy policy.  It's a matter of not wanting to pay a player a couple of million per year to sit on the bench and play in the Reserves matches.

[Eagle]

I also see a sell to buy strategy in the works, however, I think it's more along the lines of occupying a place on the team sheet and replacing it with another player.  It's not a dollar for dollar (pound for pound) sell to buy policy.  It's a matter of not wanting to pay a player a couple of million per year to sit on the bench and play in the Reserves matches.

Hit the nail on the head. Have a set squad size and when one goes out one comes in. It’s why we worked so hard to get rid of so many players last season. Still work to do though.

[Roger Red Hat]

I think your a million miles away with your comment on us having to 'sell to buy'.  They aren't just going to keep adding to a squad it's obvious if we spunk up for a new striker then we need to clear the deadwood. We buy Joe Allen but we already have 7 other midfielders taking up wages. Allen comes in and Spearing or Adam will go out. It's not 'sell to buy' it called keeping the squad trimmed by replacing the lesser players with hopefully better ones.

[Benny The Noon]

What about Dempsey ? Kuyt and Maxi have left which leaves space ?

[red till i die!!]

I really haven't mader my mind up about the owners one way or the other. They're making it very hard for me to do so. Their net spend since being here is about £45m. Hardly heavy investment.

Also, the stadium issue isn't an issue for me. They aren't going to build one. Not sure how people can't have realised that by now.

likewise.
id also say their net spend is less when you combine the off field revenue they have generated and the wages they have slashed.if we lose a couple of players between now and next season they will eventually break even.it feels like we are in administration .
i agree they will never build a stadium,well not with their own money anyway.

[The Good Yank]

What about Dempsey ? Kuyt and Maxi have left which leaves space ?

I think BR wants him, just doesn't want to pay 10 mill for him.


Lee, you actually put my point better than I did.  That is what I meant.

[Eagle]

What about Dempsey ? Kuyt and Maxi have left which leaves space ?

Cole, Aqua and Pacheco have come back from loan filling up spots in the first team squad. Rumours are getting stronger that Dempsey and Allen will come in with Adam going to Fulham and Shelvey going on loan to Swansea.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Werner: Liverpool to spend more wisely

Liverpool chairman Tom Werner has indicated that the big spending that marked Kenny Dalglish's second spell as Anfield manager is a thing of the past.
Dalglish spent £35 million on Andy Carroll, lavished around £20 million each on Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson and bought Charlie Adam from Blackpool for £8 million.
Despite the heavy outlay, the Merseysiders - although winning the Carling Cup - finished in a disappointing eighth place in the Premier League and Dalglish departed soon after the end of the season to be replaced by Brendan Rodgers.
"This is a very financially strong organisation, LFC," Werner said. "I believe - not just in the previous season, but in the past - we have overspent for players, and the results were not what we have expected.
"We do have the resources to be competitive, but at the same time, we are going to operate in a way that will be a self-sustaining model. I think you will see that you don't necessarily have to go out and spend £50 million on one player to see success."
Werner predicted that Rodgers would make a positive impression on the Anfield faithful, adding: "I don't think anyone could have been happy with our performance on the pitch last year - no disrespect to Kenny. I think he is an iconic figure for Liverpool and he will always be appreciated for the stability that he brought to the club.
"Brendan brings a very thoughtful, modern, attacking philosophy - I think our fans will be very delighted with the attacking philosophy that he brings to Liverpool - and hopefully we will see improvement."
Carroll, in particular, has become symbolic of Liverpool's big spending, with reports suggesting the club are likely to take a hit of at least £15 million on the deal in any permanent sale only 18 months after signing him.
The England international, 23, has been linked with a return to Newcastle - who offered to take him on loan with a view to a permanent deal - while AC Milan expressed an interest in a loan after Rodgers hinted that the striker may not be part of his long-term plans.
Werner has insisted that the manager will have the final say on Carroll and suggested a decision will be made on the forward in the near future, saying the club would not attempt to influence Rodgers in any way.
"Brendan is clearly the leader here," he told Sky Sports News. "The only thing I can say is we will do what is best for the club. At the moment Andy is on the squad, he is an important member of the England team and he has a lot of talent. We will see what happens."
It would appear that Werner does not expect the situation to drag on deep into the transfer window, saying: "Hopefully the question will be answered shortly, but at the moment Andy is on the team and we look forward to him contributing."




I must have missed this massive outlay the owners have put towards taking us (as they first promised )  to the pinnacle of Domestic and European
football ,maybe they have conveniently forgotten those first promises ?

Maybe its me ,but do all American owners believe Liverpool supporters suffer from  Alzheimer's ? I mean what happened to the big plans and
listening to a vast cross section of supporters across the country ? I never heard them talk about being a self sustaining model or abstaining
from  competing  at the top end of the market for marquee players ,no I heard exactly the opposite ,because they know that type of speech
would have left countless reds fans disappointed ....Brendan Rodgers is a good manager ,but I personally think they can only big up the managers
quality's so many times before it falls on deaf ears ,because as we all know it doesn't matter how good the manager is unless he has the kind of
class players that can make his job a hell of a lot smoother ,if anything Benitez is testament to that .

We are owned by millionaires ,the New York Times the biggest most distinguished media outlet in America ,a collative of the richest people and
businesses in America ....So am I missing something here ? 






http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/161896.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

[The Good Yank]

Actually RBG Henry said they wanted LFC to be self sustaining in his first press conference.  I don't even think he'd left the courthouse yet.

[jacdaniel]

It really pains me to say it because I couldn't stand the guy... but Im starting to think Purslow might have had a point with the "Bottom of the Barrel" email he sent.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Actually RBG Henry said they wanted LFC to be self sustaining in his first press conference.  I don't even think he'd left the courthouse yet.

He also said he wanted us to compete at the top end of the market ,you cant have both mate .

[red till i die!!]

It really pains me to say it because I couldn't stand the guy... but Im starting to think Purslow might have had a point with the "Bottom of the Barrel" email he sent.

agreed was never a big fan of him either but in this situation its looking like he could be right.he even doubted whether or not they had the money to build a stadium.

heres the article the echo ran at the time discussing the email.
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/Liverpool ... -28155295/

[metalhead]

I think your a million miles away with your comment on us having to 'sell to buy'.  They aren't just going to keep adding to a squad it's obvious if we spunk up for a new striker then we need to clear the deadwood. We buy Joe Allen but we already have 7 other midfielders taking up wages. Allen comes in and Spearing or Adam will go out. It's not 'sell to buy' it called keeping the squad trimmed by replacing the lesser players with hopefully better ones.

Lee, we haven't really did any ''Heavy'' investment as many say we had, yes we wasted our Torres and Babel money on average replacements, but FSG did not dip into their pockets as much as we hoped they would. I agree about trimming the squad, but we do need a right winger ASAP, so before selling anyone, secure the right winger as quickly as possible, then sell your other players.

[The Good Yank]

Actually RBG Henry said they wanted LFC to be self sustaining in his first press conference.  I don't even think he'd left the courthouse yet.

He also said he wanted us to compete at the top end of the market ,you cant have both mate .

At the same time he said every pound spent needed to be spent wisely.  From my point of view they are just sticking to their word.  They will spend,  when it makes sense.  They know better than most that one of the worst ways to try to make money is by owning a professional sports team.  Hell, any idiot could tell you that any investment where you have a 70% outlay of money towards wages is not something you will make money on.  They are simply, slowly (maybe too slowly for some) shaping the way for the club to be operated in a manner that makes sense.