My indictment of the rafa benitez regime

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Postby 66-1112520797 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:02 pm

People saying Mourinho would be the ideal replacment maybe right, but IMO there is no gurantee he'll bring us the title. I just dont see it as that cut and dry for us, his recent CV will no doubt make him the favourite in a possible list of candidates.
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Postby Effes » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:03 pm

peewee wrote:west derby is hardly what you would call dumpy mate, in fact i went to school there

Purple blazers?  :wwww
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:04 pm

RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:05 pm

Effes wrote:
peewee wrote:west derby is hardly what you would call dumpy mate, in fact i went to school there

Purple blazers?  :wwww

no mate, west derby comp, we wore black blazers     :D
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Postby RedBlood » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:07 pm

peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:07 pm

john craig wrote:What about Mourinho's attitude, he's an @rsehole isn't he?

but if he was our manager and saying these things mate we would all be saying how cool he was for standing up for us, and laughing at him shushing the mancs.

he was an @rsehole because he managed someone else
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:09 pm

RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please

naive argument mate, we had many years of the mancs massively outspending us and never winning the league. he bought players but he still had to get them to play together.

buying the league does not exist, or I am sure he would have spent a few more quid and bought the champions league as well    :idea
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Postby RedBlood » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:15 pm

peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please

naive argument mate, we had many years of the mancs massively outspending us and never winning the league. he bought players but he still had to get them to play together.

buying the league does not exist, or I am sure he would have spent a few more quid and bought the champions league as well    :idea

naive if you think football is the same as it was back then mate, money talks now more then it ever has
look at all the teams that have won the premiere league, they have all well outspent their rivals

mourinho couldnt win the champions league because unlike the premiere you need tactics in europe
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:19 pm

RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please

naive argument mate, we had many years of the mancs massively outspending us and never winning the league. he bought players but he still had to get them to play together.

buying the league does not exist, or I am sure he would have spent a few more quid and bought the champions league as well    :idea

naive if you think football is the same as it was back then mate, money talks now more then it ever has
look at all the teams that have won the premiere league, they have all well outspent their rivals

mourinho couldnt win the champions league because unlike the premiere you need tactics in europe

its premier and not premiere mate. and if the league is so easy and no tactics are needed to win it, then why are we not winning it. I suppose when we next win it you will not be claiming its easy to win and no tactics are needed      :D


listen do yourself a favour mate, i know you like following me round the board trying to pick an argument but at least get a few things right, what was it last week? oh yeah paisley and dalglish were cr@p and only won the league because they inherited shanklys side


     :laugh:


we have different opinions, but stupid comments are not exactly winning me over to your side
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Postby NANNY RED » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:20 pm

Sorry to upset the applecart everyone but id sooner hell freeze over than have that fat mouth Mourinio as our manager it  turns my stomach even associating him with our club. Sorry folks but hes one person whod never and i mean never accept him :no
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:24 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Sorry to upset the applecart everyone but id sooner hell freeze over than have that fat mouth Mourinio as our manager it  turns my stomach even associating him with our club. Sorry folks but hes one person whod never and i mean never accept him :no

as opposed to the fat mouthed failure benitez who once again bad mouths the owners     :D    maureen knows how to win the league


just give rafa his money and get rid of him, if he seriously made those comments attributed to him this morning then he has gone even further down in my estimations and is obvioulsy looking to get the boot, lets just oblige him

like i said earlier nanny, we hated maureen because of who he was with and what he did, but i guarantee if rafa had won it twice and said the same things as maureen this forum would be full of threads saying how fantastic and funny he is
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Postby RedBlood » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:26 pm

peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please

naive argument mate, we had many years of the mancs massively outspending us and never winning the league. he bought players but he still had to get them to play together.

buying the league does not exist, or I am sure he would have spent a few more quid and bought the champions league as well    :idea

naive if you think football is the same as it was back then mate, money talks now more then it ever has
look at all the teams that have won the premiere league, they have all well outspent their rivals

mourinho couldnt win the champions league because unlike the premiere you need tactics in europe

its premier and not premiere mate. and if the league is so easy and no tactics are needed to win it, then why are we not winning it. I suppose when we next win it you will not be claiming its easy to win and no tactics are needed      :D


listen do yourself a favour mate, i know you like following me round the board trying to pick an argument but at least get a few things right, what was it last week? oh yeah paisley and dalglish were cr@p and only won the league because they inherited shanklys side


     :laugh:


we have different opinions, but stupid comments are not exactly winning me over to your side

loool

1. as if i care about my spelling you geek

2. we are not winning the league because other teams like manu and chelsea have BOUGHT bigger stronger squads and better players, that simple

3. i didnt say paisely or kenny were :censored:?? i just said they inherrited much better teams then rafa did FACT

4. as if i follow you round u loser, i read the threads like everyone else you just happen to be a big ti.t who talks shi.t

5. you name yourself after peewee herman! a man caught wan.king in one of them dirty cinemas that play po.rn

enough said, i got to go have breakfast and enjoy my day, including watching us beat chelsea

peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:27 pm

RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
RedBlood wrote:
peewee wrote:
lakes10 wrote:I am in shock that Rafa has once again hit out at the owners in the press.

I heard it first on radio 5 .

RAFA BENITEZ has again risked the wrath of Liverpool's American owners by blaming them for RUINING his team's title hopes.
The Anfield boss says their bid to replace him with Jurgen Klinsmann late last year de-stabilised the club and undermined all hopes of winning the Premier League.

Benitez, whose side take on Chelsea at Stamford Bridge today, chose his words carefully — hardly surprising after receiving a rap from Tom Hicks and George Gillett for earlier outbursts.

But he said: "What is evident is that back at that time we were in a great position and the team was in shape to win many of the games which we eventually drew.

"So the entire process is what allowed the gap to open between us and the leaders.

"If I wanted, I have the perfect excuse.

The only solution I have is to try to bury myself in my work. And it is vital we win today to enable us to fight at least for that fourth-place spot."

yeah i read this earlier, i wonder what his excuse is for the previous 3 seasons.

he doesn't do himself any favours when he spouts sh*te like this

:no

its funny as arnt you one of the people that want tight-lipped mourinho as our next manager?

and your point is what exactly?  a guy who has won the PL twice spouting off and a guy who hasnt got anywhere near winning the league spouting off.

mourinho didnt do anything speacial to win the league he bought it u crazy crazy fool

just go back to bed please

naive argument mate, we had many years of the mancs massively outspending us and never winning the league. he bought players but he still had to get them to play together.

buying the league does not exist, or I am sure he would have spent a few more quid and bought the champions league as well    :idea

naive if you think football is the same as it was back then mate, money talks now more then it ever has
look at all the teams that have won the premiere league, they have all well outspent their rivals

mourinho couldnt win the champions league because unlike the premiere you need tactics in europe

its premier and not premiere mate. and if the league is so easy and no tactics are needed to win it, then why are we not winning it. I suppose when we next win it you will not be claiming its easy to win and no tactics are needed      :D


listen do yourself a favour mate, i know you like following me round the board trying to pick an argument but at least get a few things right, what was it last week? oh yeah paisley and dalglish were cr@p and only won the league because they inherited shanklys side


     :laugh:


we have different opinions, but stupid comments are not exactly winning me over to your side

loool

1. as if i care about my spelling you geek

2. we are not winning the league because other teams like manu and chelsea have BOUGHT bigger stronger squads and better players, that simple

3. i didnt say paisely or kenny were :censored:?? i just said they inherrited much better teams then rafa did FACT

4. as if i follow you round u loser, i read the threads like everyone else you just happen to be a big ti.t who talks shi.t

5. you name yourself after peewee herman! a man caught wan.king in one of them dirty cinemas that play po.rn

enough said, i got to go have breakfast and enjoy my day, including watching us beat chelsea

peaceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

:laugh:

whatever mate, have a good day      :rasp
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Postby RedBlood » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:29 pm

and you have a good day also :D

no hard feelings  :rasp
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Rafael Benitez has a dream: making Liverpool the Premier League champions, or in other words, shortening the gap created by the big spending clubs. This season that feat seems complicated, but on Sunday against Chelsea he has the opportunity to win in a battle.

How big a setback is Fernando Torres’s injury for Sunday’s match?

- It’s a big blow for us because we were counting on him playing, of course. For me it’s a confirmation that these international friendlies at this stage, when the players have played so many games, don’t make a lot of sense.

Is it safe to say that the Premier is the ideal competition for Torres?

- I think so. Fernando has adapted very well and he has demonstrated that he has great quality and the conditions to succeed.

Do you think he was in need of shaking off the pressure he had in La Liga and especially at Atletico?

- He’s arrived at a moment where he’s matured and has more experience. The change has been good for him, good for us and, as far as I can tell, it’s also been positive for Atletico.

You have described your match tomorrow against Chelsea as ‘vital’ one

- It’s very important for us to get back on track, recover our confidence and to fight, for the time being, for fourth place.

Have Liverpool given up on winning the Premier?

- It’s not a matter of giving up, we need to be realistic. There are two teams at the top that are not making any mistakes and we haven’t been getting the same results as earlier in the season. We’re still lacking a bit in terms of winning matches consistently which would give us the confidence and the possibility of fighting for something more than a Champions League spot.

Do you think people are asking too much of your team when you compare the economical power of your main rivals?

- There is a great difference on the economical level that goes back years. That is what we’re trying to close-in on and, sometimes, in order to achieve this you have to take some risks when you sign players and when you take decisions on the pitch, and you don’t always get it right. To be on the same level as Arsenal, United or Chelsea we have to do everything almost to perfection.

Behind all those teams there are big investors, and the arrival of the Americans at Liverpool has not necessarily meant the injection of cash that people expected.

- The problem is not the spending of this year, but for the last four or five years. The rival squads that were already built by spending a lot of money have kept on strengthening each of those years.

A few months back, Liverpool’s owners did not have all their trust on your work, when the team was six points from the leaders and with a match on hand. Do you think all that controversy has negatively affected your team’s progress since then?

- As a manager I could say yes. I would have the perfect excuse, but I don’t want to use it as an excuse. What is clear is that at that time we were in a good position and that we were close to winning many of those matches that we ended up drawing, and that is why we are in this position now.

But the supporters have had to march on the streets to show their support for Rafa Benitez. Do you think you will remain at the club for the two years left on your contract?

- I have a lot of confidence on our young team that is growing, with a much better squad than when we arrived. I think that the future is promising but we must think about the present.

Despite this, one of the owners spoke to Klinsmann. Do you see it as disrespect?

- At the end you just try to stay away from these things and focus on your job and not pay attention to these kinds of things because you can’t control them.

In this area,you no longer work with Paco Ayestarán, who negotiated with Athletic, Barça and finally Real Sociedad to leave your side. Are you disappointed in the way he left?

- I am very disappointed. When you put your blind faith on somebody and they disappoint you as a person, the professional aspect loses all value, it’s secondary. Sometimes the desire for power changes people. I would like to keep all the good memories but the whole situation was a surprise.

Luis Aragones is also looking over his shoulder for a replacement…

- It’s difficult to keep calm when possible names start to surface. Luis has experience, he will keep going and the team will respond for him.

You’re still fondly remembered in Valencia. Would you be willing to come back?

- I have a lot of good memories from my time in Valencia but I am happy here and I want to win more titles at Liverpool.

Do you follow closely everything that’s going on at Valencia?

- Of course. I think that the latest results in the Liga and the Cup will help them to recover their lost confidence.

What’s your opinion on the situation with Cañizares, Albelda and Angulo?

- Because of my utmost respect for the Club and for them, I feel I must not comment on the issue.

Full interview ripped from TLW
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