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[yckatbjywtbiastkamb]

Maybe when he gets more experience and mature he will definitely be a good player, I hope he improves like Lucas, but for me Henderson shouldn't be in the starting eleven right now, ease him into the starting eleven. He always did well when he came on as an impact sub.

Anyways, good post yckatbjywtbiastkamb, time will tell

players need time to develop mate, a lot of players that made an instant impact on the club arrived when they were just entering their prime - souness, barnes, mcmahon, beardsley etc. dalglish was at the peak of his powers when he arrived at 27.
when they were 21 i guarentee you they were inconsistent and made mistakes but we didnt see it because they were playing for someone else.
even players that made a big impact at a young age like fowler, owen and gerrard, they had been at the club for years and felt right at home and comfortable in their surroundings.
it`s hard work at 21 to move to another city and to try to adjust, ronnie whelan was really homesick and wanted to go home to ireland for his first year here but his dad kept on talking him out of it.
that was why liverpool players in the past, even true greats like hansen and clemo, spent nearly 2 years in the reserves so they would feel at home.
the one exception off the top of my head is kevin keegan, he arrived at 20, got into the team and changed not just the team but the club overnight.
henderson is putting in impressive performances considering his age imo, because of the energy he brings i`d have him in the team every week myself, we`ve got a few players that dont cover the ground that well and others that dont cover the ground as well as they used to so i`d have him in for that reason alone.

[kazza]

I thought he was our worst player on the pitch against Brighton and I can't believe some of his comparisons with Steven Gerrard in some of the LFC forums. Gerrard at Henderson's age was faster, defensively better, stronger and more intelligent.

I have my doubts on Henderson capable becoming a top player in the future, He might turn out to be a decent midfielder.

steven gerrard is the best player i`ve ever seen play for the club so your not asking much from the lad!!
henderson is a good player, people talk about kuyt but no one in our team puts a shift in like henderson, he`s one of the few players who gets into the box (actually in to the box not hang around outside it) to support our front men.
again like carroll he is a young player (hendo`s only 21 dont forget) who arrived with a big price tag around his neck which add`s a lot of pressure at a stage in his career when most players of his age are doing well just to be in any starting XI never mind liverpools.
he`s neat and tidy in possession, got an incredible engine on him, is quite quick and has shown once or twice this season that he can open up defences with a pass. on top of all that he has got a sensible head on his shoulders, in interviews he speaks like a 30 year old captain not a 21 year old lad.
i`m sure as he feels more comfortable in his enviroment he`ll start to express himself more on the pitch.
to expect miracles out of a 21 year old player is not being realistic.

[Thommo's perm]

I thought he was our worst player on the pitch against Brighton and I can't believe some of his comparisons with Steven Gerrard in some of the LFC forums. Gerrard at Henderson's age was faster, defensively better, stronger and more intelligent.

I have my doubts on Henderson capable becoming a top player in the future, He might turn out to be a decent midfielder.

steven gerrard is the best player i`ve ever seen play for the club so your not asking much from the lad!!
henderson is a good player, people talk about kuyt but no one in our team puts a shift in like henderson, he`s one of the few players who gets into the box (actually in to the box not hang around outside it) to support our front men.
again like carroll he is a young player (hendo`s only 21 dont forget) who arrived with a big price tag around his neck which add`s a lot of pressure at a stage in his career when most players of his age are doing well just to be in any starting XI never mind liverpools.
he`s neat and tidy in possession, got an incredible engine on him, is quite quick and has shown once or twice this season that he can open up defences with a pass. on top of all that he has got a sensible head on his shoulders, in interviews he speaks like a 30 year old captain not a 21 year old lad.
i`m sure as he feels more comfortable in his enviroment he`ll start to express himself more on the pitch.
to expect miracles out of a 21 year old player is not being realistic.

If not running round like a girl, not making needless tackles, not giving away free kicks in dangerous positions and not surrending posession cheaply are miracles, then heaven help us

[ethanr]

Like yckat, Gerrard's the best Liverpool player I've ever seen as well, and I don't expect Hendo to ever be as near as good as he has been.

With that said, I do still believe he will be a really decent player for us.  He was the worst player on the pitch for us against Brighton, but most had good games.  He's young and will be inconsistent for us, but in time I think he will come through and end up being a really decent player someday.  He'll never be a Gerrard for us, but I could see him turning out to be at least as good as, or maybe a bit better than a player like Arteta (Not sure about a lot of you but I think Arteta is a really decent player).

[maypaxvobiscum]

yeah sure let's all continue to have faith in players who are for the future while the present is being neglected. there's a reason why we've not won the league in over 20 years, and this is one of it - mediocrity on the pitch.

[Reg]

The difference between good and great is self belief. Look at any video of Rush, Owen and Fowler.  Souness, Aldo, Keegan. Confidence, confidence, confidence.

Once we get on a running streak these lads will naturally up their game 20%.

[stmichael]

he's in the unfortunate position a lot of the time of being the player who plays in a central three who does the simple things and never stands out much, hardly surprising when you have adam pinging balls about and gerrard doing his stuff.

was listening to the anfield wrap podcast and they continue make the comparison with tiago at chelsea under maureen. never as glamorous as lampard or makalele but equally as important in helping the team tick, even though he'd never really stand out in a game.

[Redman in wales]

he's in the unfortunate position a lot of the time of being the player who plays in a central three who does the simple things and never stands out much, hardly surprising when you have adam pinging balls about and gerrard doing his stuff.

was listening to the anfield wrap podcast and they continue make the comparison with tiago at chelsea under maureen. never as glamorous as lampard or makalele but equally as important in helping the team tick, even though he'd never really stand out in a game.

I listened to that too, but haven't watched enough matches this season to be able to comment fully, but it does make sense.

From what they say, he's the link man. Makes himself available and gives it to another red shirt. He's not the DM or the AM in the midfeild, more the link man, give and go, keeping the move going. It's not spectacular, it's very simple infact, but is still important.

I think there is room in his game to improve, but hell, he's a young lad in his first season playing with these players around him. He's got to learn how people play, how they move and then learn to anticipate what move that player will make next to play the right ball. This is something that will only get better the more he plays in the team and learns from those around him. The great players like Gerrard and Suarez can forge this understanding quicker (see the understanding between Gerrard and Torres as well) but I belive its something players like Henderson can pick up and improve.

[stmichael]

From what they say, he's the link man. Makes himself available and gives it to another red shirt. He's not the DM or the AM in the midfeild, more the link man, give and go, keeping the move going. It's not spectacular, it's very simple infact, but is still important.

He's essentially the same sort of player as Wilshere is for Arsenal (I'm not saying he's in the same class as Wilshere). If Arsenal were for example plying a three of Song, Wilshere and Ramsey you'd say that Ramsey was the most attcking of the three and Song was the most defensive. Wilshere very much knits the midfield together though.

This is why I have no idea why people still bleat on about us letting Meireles go. He's been awful for Chelsea and was a joke last night. I still have no idea what his best position is. He's not a playmaker, he's not a defensive player and he's not an out and out attacking midfielder, hence why he spent a lot of time out wide for us. I can't believe we got £12m for him.

[Thommo's perm]

he's in the unfortunate position a lot of the time of being the player who plays in a central three who does the simple things and never stands out much, hardly surprising when you have adam pinging balls about and gerrard doing his stuff.

was listening to the anfield wrap podcast and they continue make the comparison with tiago at chelsea under maureen. never as glamorous as lampard or makalele but equally as important in helping the team tick, even though he'd never really stand out in a game.

Hes standing out because hes doing the simple things wrong. He just needs to look at videos of his performances and make sure he stops making the same stupid mistakes.

[red till i die!!]

until henderson ups his game he is a passenger,simple as.
i agree with most that he has potential and could be one for the future but he is doing nothing to warrant the constant faith shown in him every week.
against brighton he was terrible and the worst on the pitch by far but yet he looked shocked when he was subbed.i think he has an ego that his talent cant match but no doubt he will start at wembley on sunday.
i dont agree with the assumption that he makes things tick cos he doesnt,his passing isnt even that good and is another one with a serious lack of pace.he tracks around and stands people up but gets caught out too much for my liking.
he needs to be benched till he realises that he needs to up it considerably before he is handed another start because the way he is going he is more likely to end up more carrick than gerrard.
we cant afford to wait 3-4 years for him like we did with lucas as he cost 3 times more and if we were to sell lucas we would make a tidy profit and the same cannot be said for henderson

[Thommo's perm]

If a players name is consistently on the team sheet it confirms to him that he is playing well and doing the right things. This was my objection to Lucas when he was dogsh'it.
I remember Heskey getting asked if he felt he was doing enough after being criticised for coasting through games. He said: "I get picked for my club and my country so I must be doing something right". So absolving himself from not doing better or trying harder.
Theres a fine line between wanting to boost someones confidence and allowing them to be ineffectual so as not to shatter their confidence.

[stmichael]

i think he has an ego that his talent cant match

on what do you base the assumption that he has an ego? i've heard people speak who know the lad and it's quite the opposite.

[red till i die!!]

i think he has an ego that his talent cant match

on what do you base the assumption that he has an ego? i've heard people speak who know the lad and it's quite the opposite.

obviously i dont know him personally but he doesnt seem to want to up his game.he has been mediocre since the sunderland game and is constantly handed a jersey every week so imo he thinks he is doing well enough to warrant it.
he is a young lad who has moved to a massive club for a riduculous fee so its my assumption that he thinks he is much better than he is.

[Thommo's perm]

i think he has an ego that his talent cant match

on what do you base the assumption that he has an ego? i've heard people speak who know the lad and it's quite the opposite.

obviously i dont know him personally but he doesnt seem to want to up his game.he has been mediocre since the sunderland game and is constantly handed a jersey every week so imo he thinks he is doing well enough to warrant it.
he is a young lad who has moved to a massive club for a riduculous fee so its my assumption that he thinks he is much better than he is.

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