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Postby tubby » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:16 pm

, Lampard, Barry, et al, all had to grind away to make a real impression. Each got stick in their early 20s
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:24 pm

bavlondon wrote:We absolutely need to hang on to him. He has always been one if the best left backs in the world in his age group. He lacks positional sense and that only comes with experience. It makes no sense to let go of him now. He will probably be worth double in a few years.



If we let him go now it will be Roys first big mistake. Especially  as we don't even have a decent first choice lb let alone a backup aside from maybe agger.

@karlsentk Fans want youngsters in the team. Then they expect miracles; everyone has to be an Owen or a Rooney.

"He lacks positional sense and that only comes with experience."
He is 21. He should have it by now. Otherwise he is a liability.

"If we let him go now it will be Roys first big mistake."
You cant wait can you?
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Postby tubby » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:27 pm

I could probably wait as long as you did with Rafa Saint. :;):
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:30 pm

I don't personally think he is good enough to be starting but it would make sense to keep him and let him fight for the position. I'm concerned that Hodgson has said he likes the player and yet talks are already up to full speed with Fiorentina. Just highlights the size of the hole we are in financially, I mean who is Purslow to make judgments on a players value, whether he should stay or go? If Hodgson likes the player then he stays, it should be as simple as that. Hoping the lad from Wigan (or someone else) is lined up to come straight in as a direct replacement.
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:30 pm

bavlondon wrote:I could probably wait as long as you did with Rafa Saint. :;):

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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:33 pm

Scottbot wrote:I don't personally think he is good enough to be starting but it would make sense to keep him and let him fight for the position. I'm concerned that Hodgson has said he likes the player and yet talks are already up to full speed with Fiorentina. Just highlights the size of the hole we are in financially, I mean who is Purslow to make judgments on a players value, whether he should stay or go? If Hodgson likes the player then he stays, it should be as simple as that. Hoping the lad from Wigan (or someone else) is lined up to come straight in as a direct replacement.

It points more and more to the fact that purslow is selling players - as been pointed out we have two money men running the club and no football men there
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Postby 7_Kewell » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:50 pm

Scottbot wrote:I don't personally think he is good enough to be starting but it would make sense to keep him and let him fight for the position. I'm concerned that Hodgson has said he likes the player and yet talks are already up to full speed with Fiorentina. Just highlights the size of the hole we are in financially, I mean who is Purslow to make judgments on a players value, whether he should stay or go? If Hodgson likes the player then he stays, it should be as simple as that. Hoping the lad from Wigan (or someone else) is lined up to come straight in as a direct replacement.

maybe he's talking them up to raise their price?


Who knows, but one thing is for certain, Inusa isn't good enough and 5 million would be a good bit of business for a :censored: left back.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Thu Jul 15, 2010 9:55 pm

Maybe a sh.it left back in some peoples eyes but at the moment he is our only left back - if he goes we then need two .

Still no middle ground i see - players are either sh.it or top quality .
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Postby Thommo's perm » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:04 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Maybe a sh.it left back in some peoples eyes but at the moment he is our only left back - if he goes we then need two .

Still no middle ground i see - players are either sh.it or top quality .

I dont think hes sh'it
But I dont think hes top quality neither
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Postby NANNY RED » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:06 pm

Scottbot wrote:I don't personally think he is good enough to be starting but it would make sense to keep him and let him fight for the position. I'm concerned that Hodgson has said he likes the player and yet talks are already up to full speed with Fiorentina. Just highlights the size of the hole we are in financially, I mean who is Purslow to make judgments on a players value, whether he should stay or go? If Hodgson likes the player then he stays, it should be as simple as that.

Very very good post Scott ,

On a side note though the way Christie is carrying on ,most prob he wants to play left back himself, i mean hes doing everything else our new MR Liverpool. God give me the days of Mr Smith and Robinson
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Postby Scottbot » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:06 pm

7_Kewell wrote:Who knows, but one thing is for certain, Inusa isn't good enough and 5 million would be a good bit of business for a :censored: left back.

To say he's :censored: is a bit strong I think, he deffo isn't good enough to be starting but he does have some qualities, he's tenacious, full-blooded in the tackle and at times, has shown he can contribute to our attacking play. Sure we might get £5 mill for him but then how much do you spend on his replacement? Maybe you buy a player for £2-3 million but chances are he isn't going to be good enough either. It makes sense to spend some money on a better player to come in and start and no doubt Insua would still see plenty of game time.

Have to agree with whoever it was that said we have yet to find anyone better than Jonny Riise. He was a solid dependable player, decent defensively (without being amazing) and contributed in his own way to our attacking play. He went off the boil a bit, Rafa sold him for £4 million and it's been downhill ever since.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:12 pm

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bavlondon wrote:We absolutely need to hang on to him. He has always been one if the best left backs in the world in his age group. He lacks positional sense and that only comes with experience. It makes no sense to let go of him now. He will probably be worth double in a few years.



If we let him go now it will be Roys first big mistake. Especially  as we don't even have a decent first choice lb let alone a backup aside from maybe agger.

@karlsentk Fans want youngsters in the team. Then they expect miracles; everyone has to be an Owen or a Rooney.

"He lacks positional sense and that only comes with experience."
He is 21. He should have it by now. Otherwise he is a liability.

"If we let him go now it will be Roys first big mistake."
You cant wait can you?
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Name me a better player in his position at his age. I'm not saying he should be a starter but he is worthy of a backup position at the very least.

Like I said everyone expects youngsters to turn into Owens at that age.
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:31 pm

Just because Roy says he likes him as a player doesn't mean he would dearly love to keep him. Managers have to answer questions publically in a way that leaves it open for them to do their job, and so to say you "like a player, but talks were already under way before I arrived, so I'm not sure if he'll still be here..." is doing just that. It wouldn't be wise to say you're looking to sell him in case the deal doesn't happen. FWIW, I have little faith in the Daily Mail but if it's true then I think £5m would be a good deal. This assumes the manager would get decent money to replace him, otherwise of course you wouldn't do it.
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Postby tubby » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:34 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Just because Roy says he likes him as a player doesn't mean he would dearly love to keep him. Managers have to answer questions publically in a way that leaves it open for them to do their job, and so to say you "like a player, but talks were already under way before I arrived, so I'm not sure if he'll still be here..." is doing just that. It wouldn't be wise to say you're looking to sell him in case the deal doesn't happen. FWIW, I have little faith in the Daily Mail but if it's true then I think £5m would be a good deal. This assumes the manager would get decent money to replace him, otherwise of course you wouldn't do it.

Whatever his feelings we are already in a sorry state as it is and we don't even have a 1st choice LB.

We don't even know what the transfer policy atm. Is there even a master plan?
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Postby LFC2007 » Thu Jul 15, 2010 10:47 pm

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LFC2007 wrote:Just because Roy says he likes him as a player doesn't mean he would dearly love to keep him. Managers have to answer questions publically in a way that leaves it open for them to do their job, and so to say you "like a player, but talks were already under way before I arrived, so I'm not sure if he'll still be here..." is doing just that. It wouldn't be wise to say you're looking to sell him in case the deal doesn't happen. FWIW, I have little faith in the Daily Mail but if it's true then I think £5m would be a good deal. This assumes the manager would get decent money to replace him, otherwise of course you wouldn't do it.

Whatever his feelings we are already in a sorry state as it is and we don't even have a 1st choice LB.

We don't even know what the transfer policy atm. Is there even a master plan?

Agger made a decent job of it last season. I wouldn't necessarily advocate him starting there, but he is a viable cover option. That and one proper LB who doesn't have an injury record like Aurelio might just do.
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