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[Igor Zidane]

What about that fella from chelsea,Huth i think his name is.

[L-type]

In my perspective someone better than Hyypia is a must as Hyypia's main weakness imo is his lack of pace.

I'm pretty sure this has been established in some twenty odd other posts, but to also address the post above mine.  Chelsea have clearly stated that they are closed for business in January, and not even going to consider most bids.

[A.B.]

I'm pretty sure this has been established in some twenty odd other posts, but to also address the post above mine.  Chelsea have clearly stated that they are closed for business in January, and not even going to consider most bids.

I'm establishing it again, I couldn't give a damn if it was already said as I don't give a f..u..c..k.

Getting back on topic, a new defender is a must if not more goals will be conceeded. Josemi has been poor lately so until he gets himself together I would prefer Finnan to be played on the right flank. I am not trying to slate Josemi however the recent goals we've conceeded have come from the right side.

Most likely it will be a solid defender from Spain that Benitez knows very well, I do not see him buying any defenders or strikers for that matter from any clubs in the Premiership.

[akumaface]

I always love the way Hyypia plays. He is really the kind of player you can go to war with. I think he certainly can play with more skill but given his position. The manager would prefer him to play it simple. No body is perfect and there isn't too many Center Back out there with pace, excellent arial ability, seldom misses tackles or not overpowered by others. Hyypia is a very seasoned and experienced player and I think age is not as big a problem in CB as in other position like forward or midfield. You can find many of the world top Center backs today are over 30s. But I think it will be good thought if Rafa bring along a young defender slowly to replace Hyypia couple years down the road.

[begintoend]

Marchena... I think he'll be good.

[DAV]

Theirs know doubt we need another defender
but their is no way i'm jumping on the slatting campaign against Hyypia
He's not to old he's 30
with the position he plays age isnt really a big concern
what Hyypia needs is 3 more reliable guys round him
at the moment traore is playing well but i'm not sure if he's the best to partner Hyypia.
Carragher - always performs anywhere
Finnan- seems ok-but is better at going forward
Riise-again i prefer him on the wing to be honest, until someone better comes along. (as Kewell is to hit and miss)
Josemi-well not sure about this guy YET
So, all the players r ok- but their is no structure.
its like watching a sunday pub football match, the defence is all over the place
still every confidendce that the manager will sort this
(just hope its soon)

[anfieldroad]

if william gallas ever became available i would like to see him at liverpool. talented individual with pace, skill and outstanding workhorse for the team

[Redrider]

Why?
Riise is good defensively
Finnan is an excellent passer and technically he's superb,

Both Finnan and Riise have a lot of qualities related to their general play. Riise is very strong on the ball, pushing forward and has a tremendous shot. Finnan is fast and has a good pass and move game.
But when it comes to playing at fullback, both have shortcomings. Riise is beaten for pace and once committed cannot recover, Pennant for Leeds roasted him last season to everyones great embarasment. Finnan is not strong on his man and suffers from positional lapses, he was badly exposed in the games against Portsmouth last season and gave away critical goals.

[115-1073096938]

Someone better than Hyypia....

Oh well that easily done isn't it.

[woof woof !]

Someone better than Hyypia....

Oh well that easily done isn't it.

Be fair Stu , we all love the guy but Sammi is past his best . Thats not to say we write him off ,he still has loads to offer but a wise mgr would be looking to put some pace into our central defence, right now my granny could run round Sammi and she died 20 yrs ago . 

[JBG]

right now my granny could run round Sammi and she died 20 yrs ago . 

No, I'm alive and well woofie boy.

[115-1073096938]

Both Finnan and Riise have a lot of qualities related to their general play. Riise is very strong on the ball, pushing forward and has a tremendous shot. Finnan is fast and has a good pass and move game.
But when it comes to playing at fullback, both have shortcomings. Riise is beaten for pace and once committed cannot recover, Pennant for Leeds roasted him last season to everyones great embarasment. Finnan is not strong on his man and suffers from positional lapses, he was badly exposed in the games against Portsmouth last season and gave away critical goals.

Riise has improved more defensively this season, he isn't commiting as much now, if you went to games on a regular basis you would see this, your point on him not recovering AGAIN... WAS and i repeat WAS valid last season, again i advise you to watch more of this seasons football.

As for Finnan, thats one game you're reffering to, yes he's not strong in the tackle but he doesn't pull out either. He's the worst of the two but he's still a good player.

Be fair Stu , we all love the guy but Sammi is past his best . Thats not to say we write him off ,he still has loads to offer but a wise mgr would be looking to put some pace into our central defence, right now my granny could run round Sammi and she died 20 yrs ago

Woof, i agree he's past his best, but are we forgetting how good his best was? He's still a top quality player and there isn't a side in the league he wouldn't stroll into. Maybe Chelsea he'd struggle, but the rest of the teams in the league he'd walk into (because he can't run) blindfolded.

[A.B.]

Both Finnan and Riise have a lot of qualities related to their general play. Riise is very strong on the ball, pushing forward and has a tremendous shot. Finnan is fast and has a good pass and move game.
But when it comes to playing at fullback, both have shortcomings. Riise is beaten for pace and once committed cannot recover, Pennant for Leeds roasted him last season to everyones great embarasment. Finnan is not strong on his man and suffers from positional lapses, he was badly exposed in the games against Portsmouth last season and gave away critical goals.

Riise has improved more defensively this season, he isn't commiting as much now, if you went to games on a regular basis you would see this, your point on him not recovering AGAIN... WAS and i repeat WAS valid last season, again i advise you to watch more of this seasons football.

As for Finnan, thats one game you're reffering to, yes he's not strong in the tackle but he doesn't pull out either. He's the worst of the two but he's still a good player.

Be fair Stu , we all love the guy but Sammi is past his best . Thats not to say we write him off ,he still has loads to offer but a wise mgr would be looking to put some pace into our central defence, right now my granny could run round Sammi and she died 20 yrs ago

Woof, i agree he's past his best, but are we forgetting how good his best was? He's still a top quality player and there isn't a side in the league he wouldn't stroll into. Maybe Chelsea he'd struggle, but the rest of the teams in the league he'd walk into (because he can't run) blindfolded.

Stu is there a reason why you look down to others who don't go to games? I haven't gone to any games but I know for a fact that Riise has improved defensively. Don't use you fortune of being able to go to games as a reason why you disagree with someone.

[115-1073096938]

A.B...

If you go to a game, its a different view of a situation.

Class players at games stand out more than class players on a screen.

You're more able to see the level's of skill, choice of pass, awareness, creativety and ball use at a match than on tv and you can also get a better sense of how physical a game is.

Prime example, Spurs at home last season... 0-0.

I saw that game, then went online on a forum afterwards and all i heard was how Owen done nothing and Baros was man of the match.

Well i can assure you that wasn't the view of people in the stadium. Baros had LOADS of the ball but held it up at the wrong times, ran with it at the wrong times, didn't play the right pass at all and was very selfish, whereas Michael was simply helping the flow of the game with a touch then pass and a clever movement which never got a pass...

A.B.... if you ever go to a game lad, take note of what i'm saying and observe the match, look at the big picture and all of the pitch and look at players and listen to the crowd clap and applaud...you'll start to develope an understanding of whats good/bad and the reasons for it.

[JBG]

You also see stuff at a live match that the camera doesn't pick up on, such as players body language and how they constantly argue with each other!

Seeing Steven Gerrard on tv is one thing, but watching him clatter into a player only a couple of dozen yards away from you is another.