Liverpool FC Forum

[A.B.]

I don't know why everyone is so bloody confident that we will catch the scum cos of our two games in hand. We still have Aresenal and Chelski to go and personally, I would be happy with two points from those games - but a realistic target will definately be 4 points, if we get six i think we can count ourselves lucky.

We need a goal scorer in order to challenge for the title and constantly have the goods against the top teams. We do not have one as of yet so therefore we still have to be on our toes to get 2nd spot.

Unlike Chelsea, Man Utd will drop points and against lesser teams probably is the most likely thing that will happen. They still have to go to Stanford Bridge as we do.

It's 4 point gap, even without the games in hand it's not impossible to over take them. Now it will be tough and we will see how we bounce back from a game that we lost despite dominating.

[laza]

Whether Cisse isnt up to  the grade isnt really the problem.
The problem is how much would we get for him and who can we get to replace him . That question realistically wont be answered this month but in the summer so until then he probably will have his chances, im doubtful he will be able to take them though.
Hopefully he will do enough for us to regroup some of that 14 million....geez 14 million

[A.B.]

The only thing that will increase his value in the market is good performances in the World Cup.

[oakton]

the miss goal he had, he wasn't even ready for the ball, cos he was staying down on the ground, this guy has no 2nd attempt, once he's down he waits for the ball to go away and gets up really slowly, no 2nd effort at all, lazy !

[Lando_Griffin]

Okay, in my opinion Cisse is not good enough for Liverpool. Justified by the fact that:

1) He hardly wins anything in the air for a relatively big bloke!

2) He moans if the slightest of things goes against him.

3) His finishing is on the whole poor (One good goal against BS does not a good striker make)

4) He doesn't look up enough when he's running with the ball and inevitably seems to lose posession.

Therefore no, without mention of fee or slagging the bloke off for none footballing reasons he isn't good enough to clean Rush,Dalglish or Aldridges boots!

F*ck that, St. Mike. If you won't mention the fee or slag him of, I suppose I will have to.


£14m.
£14,000,000,000.00.
Forteen Million Pounds.
One Hundred and Forty Million Pence.
28,000,000,000.00 50p's.

However you want to write it, it's a lot of money.
It's more money than most of us will touch in our entire lives. Even if we work in a bank.

Great things can be done or bought with £14m, or even £1.

However. This particular £14m was the legacy of a monetarily psychotic Manager with as much talent for spotting a good buy as Wes Brown has talent for picking good hairstyles.

Gerard Houllier bought Djibril Cisse before he departed the club, conning us all that he was something really special. (Houllier also had no talent-spotting abilities either, it would seem.)

We have given Cisse the benefit of the doubt. We have given him the benefit of the benefit of the doubt.

However, now we are at the point where we are having to give him the benefit of the benefit of the benefit of the doubt, I am getting rather annoyed. Well very annoyed, actually.
You see, I was led to believe, like all of you, that Cisse was going to be the next big thing, and that he was the best young striker in Europe.
Why is it then, that when he is playing, he seems to have all the talent and ability of a chronically depressed slice of reconstituted vegetable fat?

Where is this legendary pace which set him apart from the rest? Where is the unerring accuracy in his shooting which resulted in his being the top scorer in France a couple of times?
His supposed "lightening pace" has seen him overtake a couple of fans who were up stretching their legs, a Steward who was sat on the floor, and several young mums with pushchairs and heavy shopping.
What the heck is he doing losing a race with Mr Tarantula-hair, and even Parrot-nose?

He has the commitment of a youthful Cassanova, the drive of a toilet cleaner, and the attitude of a petulant toddler.


Rafa - just save yourself a lot of hassle, misery and hair folicles, and sell the useless chump before his value nose-dives any further.
Forget the worry that any replacements may be "cup-tied". Who gives a shiney tu'ppence? I'd rather have Dudek playing upfront than Cisse - at least he'd have scored that sitter.

   

[Rafarian]

Foolball...is a team game and it needs to be balance! If you have such a solid defence with a stong clean sheets but you're not scoring? You win balls at the midfields but you're not scoring?

Summer is coming soon and there should be some good buys...why not look at players like Raul (Real Madrid), Eto (Barcelona), Adriano (Inter Milan) or if you have too why not Defoe, Owen even Reyes if you want more Spainard!

We need to strenghten our strick force! For now we just have to make do what we have Cisse, Pongolle, Crouch and Morientes.....or if not why don't we put guys like Gerard, Alonso and Gracia up front, they scored more goals then the strikers!!!!!

[En1gma_LFC]

As far as Cisse goes I genuinely believe he is more of an athlete than a footballer. I know that players, especially strikers, in the modern game need to be athletes but I believe Cisse lacks enough tactical knowledge and a footballing brain to make it as a successful striker in the premiership. Theres parts of his game that remind me so much of the Heskey days, where every single shot, whether it be 5 yards out or 25 yards out needs to be hit as hard as it can where sometimes a delicate touch would get the job done alot better. I hate to compare to Owen again because he aint our player but how many times has he gone one on one with the keeper and just dinked it over him, showing that breaking the net doesnt make it any more of an important goal. Cisses chance against the Manc scum summed this up for me, time after time he does it. I just think were missing the sort of striker that combines athleticism with a footballing brain, Theirry Henry is an ideal example of such a player but there are plently of others similar. It just seems to me like our strikers are extreme cases, youve got Cisse who is an extreme athlete and Morrientes who has an amazing footballing brain but couldn't chase down pensioner. We just down have a striker that combines both 

[A.B.]

Foolball...is a team game and it needs to be balance! If you have such a solid defence with a stong sheet but you're not scoring? You win balls at the midfields but you're not scoring?

Summer is coming soon and there should be some good buys...why not look a players like Raul (Real Madrid), Eto (Barcelona), Adriano (Inter Milan) or if you have too why not Defoe, Owen even Reyes if you want more Spainard!

We need to strenghten our strick force! For now we just have to make do what we have Cisse, Pongolle, Crouch and Morientes.....or if not why don't we put guys like Gerard, Alonso and Gracia up front, they scored more goals then the strikers!!!!!

I'm sure Benitez will be given 60 million pounds to buy Eto'o or Adriano.

[Rafarian]

Benitez could if he would and he would if he could.....all I have to say our strickers have not produce what is required as a stricker.....if you like we could always take guys like Roberts (Wigan):blues:

They are plenty other strickers in the market......of Cisse's price we could even have 2 new strikers. Things could change after the World Cup 2006...there the market for you...

[SouthCoastShankly]

A lot of you will criticise Cisse after that performance (some have already started), and rightly so, he was poor.

But I feel the lad has improved so much since signing. He has shown some really nice piece of link up play.

I disagree, Cisse looks nothing like the player he was prior to his leg break and Crouch being bought. He plays like he has no desire, his footballing mind is slow - he never anticipates a pass, his finishing is appalling - i'm convinced most his shots are hit and hope.

I think the french league is the best he can hope for, he obviously succeeds in that environment. Rafa should offload for 7-8m and buy someone who can cope with english football. The problem with buying abroad is its so 50-50 whether they'll adapt. We need a player who can compliment Crouch, an Owen or maybe Defoe.

[dawson99]

whining moaning people cheer up. Crouch and mori have been useless as well recently. lets not heap everything on cisse. As soon as crouch scored a couple no offence but hes been absolute pants. And morientez has only scored how many goals since he joined us?

I agree cisse has been making a few howloers, but who hasnt up front for us?
If we're gonna moan, do it properly, notl ike sheep just bullying one player

[Big Niall]

Benitez biggest failing has been his failure to get a decent striker. IMO we should have got Owen but we need to do whatever it takes to get one.

If morientes, Crouch, Cisse were all sold it wouldn't bother me as between them they'll probably score about 15 league goals a year.

We can forget about the league until we admit those three are not good enough (Crouch MIGHT be able to compliment a goalscorer), Morientes is not suited to premiership and Cisse is not a footballer.

[Redtribe]

Dawson i can see what your saying about crouch in terms of his goal scoring but his link play and height really do make him an asset. This maybe puts more pressure on whoever plays next to him as the need to be scoring more, as we all except that crouch isn't going to be prolific! In my view thats ok, many a good striking partnership has only the one leading scorer. To be fair i personaly don't see Cisse as the person who is going to do that, Pongolle i feel has a better chance of filling that role as he has moe intelligence in his running and much more technical ability. Only thing with him is we don't know if he can score regular, unfortunately for him he seems to be a perfect sub in this squad for that reason! I do feel a new striker is needed i cant see that person coming innow but the summer i can. As for Morro i think he is ideal as back up for crouch i don't think the two upfront is the best solution but i think the gaffas hand is forced to play that combo sometimes!

[2520years]

Our midfield didn't contribute much up front either.  When you consider who we had in the middle compared to who they had, we should have achieved more from the middle of the park.  ManUre were playing for the draw until the last ten minutes, so there wasn't much space to build attacks.  However, I blame our midfield for not dominating the game AND THEN Cisse for squandering what little we did create.

[redsince2001]

as i see it cisse cost us the match last nite with failing to tap the ball in the first half from that beautiful cross from gerrard and hiiting outside an open goal....sell him now, sell him in d summer i dont care as long as we sell this idiot who houllier called a footballer and bought for 14m.  St micheal back and another striker in the summer.