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[SouthCoastShankly]

Benny, i also agree that 4-4-2 was the wrong formation against city.
We allowed them to dominate posession in the first half and that system isnt suited for us with the wide players we had in the team.
But i have no doubt that that very same team would beat West Brom at home, we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

We will agree to disagree then mate .

P.S - South Coast - take a leaf out of Bens book on the chapter of being able to debate maturely without the need to insult people .

Sorry but you take the biscuit with your persistent negativity. Let's be honest I'm not the only one to point it out.

You are the most predictable poster on here.

[Scottbot]

Im not sure how we can consider ourselves to be unlucky to be so low - we have got what we deserved so far and it needs to change .

good work ethic, belief and team work are all words used to describe a few players yet it has been mentioned many times that it isnt enough

We need to create more chances , we need to be better on the ball , we need to get hold of the ball - we are getting beaten in the middle of the park and we have no imagination or cutting edge up front .

Hopefully that will change as Torres gets sharper but we could easily be way behind and out of Europa league within the next 4 games .

We cant go to West Brom with the same set up and formation or we will not win .

The problem is we dont have the squad to change much .

The game is at home not away.

And i think we would beat west brom if we played 4-4-2 with that same lineup without too much of a problem.

People were saying we should beat Man City easily mate

4-4-2 doesnt work - we dont have the players to play it .

If we go in against West Brom playing 4-4-2 we will not win .

They will just swamp the midfield with 5 players and deny us space .

Nonsense. It can work, you just need to play the right players make it work. Are you suggesting that we cannot beat West Brom at HOME playing 4-4-2!? Swap Ngog for Pachecho and Babel for Jovanovich and the balance of that team looks far better.

[tonyeh]

Completely the wrong game to go with a 4-4-2.

I don't know why some people continue to believe that City are the pushovers they were 5 years ago.

[Benny The Noon]

Im not sure how we can consider ourselves to be unlucky to be so low - we have got what we deserved so far and it needs to change .

good work ethic, belief and team work are all words used to describe a few players yet it has been mentioned many times that it isnt enough

We need to create more chances , we need to be better on the ball , we need to get hold of the ball - we are getting beaten in the middle of the park and we have no imagination or cutting edge up front .

Hopefully that will change as Torres gets sharper but we could easily be way behind and out of Europa league within the next 4 games .

We cant go to West Brom with the same set up and formation or we will not win .

The problem is we dont have the squad to change much .

The game is at home not away.

And i think we would beat west brom if we played 4-4-2 with that same lineup without too much of a problem.

People were saying we should beat Man City easily mate

4-4-2 doesnt work - we dont have the players to play it .

If we go in against West Brom playing 4-4-2 we will not win .

They will just swamp the midfield with 5 players and deny us space .

Nonsense. It can work, you just need to play the right players make it work. Are you suggesting that we cannot beat West Brom at HOME playing 4-4-2!? Swap Ngog for Pachecho and Babel for Jovanovich and the balance of that team looks far better.

If pacheco comes in then he drops deeper and it becomes one up front

Babel out left mid ?! When has that ever worked ?

Bring in Poulsen alongside Lucas push gerrard up behind Torres and have him supported by Kuyt and Jovanovic and we will create more and will be too strong for West Brom - play 4-4-2 they will just swamp us and look for a draw - one i think they may get . 2 against 3 in the middle doesnt work . Every top team has abandoned 4-4-2 for a reason .

[Benny The Noon]

Benny, i also agree that 4-4-2 was the wrong formation against city.
We allowed them to dominate posession in the first half and that system isnt suited for us with the wide players we had in the team.
But i have no doubt that that very same team would beat West Brom at home, we will have to agree to disagree on that one.

We will agree to disagree then mate .

P.S - South Coast - take a leaf out of Bens book on the chapter of being able to debate maturely without the need to insult people .

Sorry but you take the biscuit with your persistent negativity. Let's be honest I'm not the only one to point it out.

You are the most predictable poster on here.

Its being realistic not negative and last night confirmed those fears.

[maguskwt]

It was just a blip, we'll do WBA and bounce back.

let's see whether it's a 'blip' or it's a 'bliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip'. I'm sure you are familiar with the term... 

[club_Levis]

Fickle fans we have in here..Last year Rafa wa branded negative for deploying a lone striker and when Roy revert to the favoured 4-4-2 he is to blame as well...Fact is City spent 136 million pounds while we only spent 13.6 times less..obviously this will show when you face such quality players!! we are so broke it hurts and we will struggle againgst good teams

[SouthCoastShankly]

I think I would just like to come on here and not see so much negativity from certain individuals.

From what I can see most on here are reasonable and accept our situation. They understand we have serious limitations this season in terms of transfer budgets, players wanting to leave and a general instability to the club. Combined with a new manager trying to stabilise the team and performances.

The last thing you want to be reading is scaremongering, unfair assumptions and downright dodgy conclusions. I accept that these opinions may be prevalent in some, but it seems to be unfortunately prevalent in those who post a lot. Essentially spamming the board with negativity and drowning out any positivism that is being posted. 

[Benny The Noon]

Why don't you just mention my name to round off the post instead of hiding behind it all- I'll post how I see fit and I'll give my opinion - but I tell you what I will never do and that is lower myself to the standards of you and others when you resort to insults andnthe constant slating of posters . I will post positive views when I see them but until then I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and become a sheep and think that just because we got Cole and we have a new manager we are suddenly going to become a force in the prem . I see us not being good enough and the evidence I have seen so far is backing that up - am I happy with that NO , not in a million years - this is he first time I have felt like this in the last 30 odd years and I'm gutted at the moment . I'm sick and tired of having to to justify myself to people like you - I give my opinion - if you don't like it then debate in a mature football manner - if your incapable of doing that then just walk on by - it won't bother me one single bit - certainly better than having to read he numerous cheap digs you post

[In and Out]

I think I would just like to come on here and not see so much negativity from certain individuals.

From what I can see most on here are reasonable and accept our situation. They understand we have serious limitations this season in terms of transfer budgets, players wanting to leave and a general instability to the club. Combined with a new manager trying to stabilise the team and performances.

The last thing you want to be reading is scaremongering, unfair assumptions and downright dodgy conclusions. I accept that these opinions may be prevalent in some, but it seems to be unfortunately prevalent in those who post a lot. Essentially spamming the board with negativity and drowning out any positivism that is being posted. 

Good post ScS.

[SouthCoastShankly]

Why don't you just mention my name to round off the post instead of hiding behind it all- I'll post how I see fit and I'll give my opinion - but I tell you what I will never do and that is lower myself to the standards of you and others when you resort to insults andnthe constant slating of posters . I will post positive views when I see them but until then I'm not going to bury my head in the sand and become a sheep and think that just because we got Cole and we have a new manager we are suddenly going to become a force in the prem . I see us not being good enough and the evidence I have seen so far is backing that up - am I happy with that NO , not in a million years - this is he first time I have felt like this in the last 30 odd years and I'm gutted at the moment . I'm sick and tired of having to to justify myself to people like you - I give my opinion - if you don't like it then debate in a mature football manner - if your incapable of doing that then just walk on by - it won't bother me one single bit - certainly better than having to read he numerous cheap digs you post

What are you harping on about woman?

You aren't the only one guilty of it, just the worst.

The rest of us don't bury our heads in the sand, we are very self aware of our predicament. The difference is it isn't our sole focus when posting.

You can have a negative opinion, sorry "realistic" opinion, but don't spout it at every opportunity. It's depressingly pathetic.

[Benny The Noon]

Im talking about more than our predicament off the pitch im talking about it on the pitch .

[Kash_Mountain]

I know the club has very little money to spend, so this might be a good opprtunity? to allow some more of the clubs youth to have a go. Really "blood" them and bring them through. We have a couple such as martin Kelly etc but the club IMO needs to do a lot more to bring them through now.

[Roger Red Hat]

Im not convinced the youths are good enough. or they'd of come through already

[BKrimmel]

Effort. I am really concerned about the teams effort yesterday and how it will effect performance. The frontmen seemed disinterested in going for any balls on cornerkicks or making any runs toward the box. I hope that in some weird way that the Mascherano stunt could have had some sort of impact on some of the other players mindsets. But at the same time they are professional athletes and should have been able to overcome their teammates stunt and preformed to the highest level. Bouncing back will hinge completely on effort of these players and their will to be better. And with WBA next Sunday we better see some sort of effort with a home crowd behind them.