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[RichardLFC1]

Reina

Finnan        Carragher  Hyypia       Riise

Gerrard        Alonso    Sissoko      Gonzalez

                  Bellamy   Crouch

Subs : Dudek Palletta Pennant Garcia Fowler

Mine would be same team but Fowler for Crouch

So we spent 6.7 million for pennant just to sit on the bench and Gerrard to play out of position again

Out of position according to who ?
He had his best season last year playing on the right and seemed to revel in the freedom it gave him.
I am made up with the signing of Pennant he will give Rafa so many more options, but asked to pick my first choice eleven...at the moment he isnt in it.

According to me he is playing out of position. And last season Most liverpool fans including myself were upset with not signing a rw now we have Pennant we want to keep Gerrard as our rw. And Gerrards best position is in the middle he will score more goals and thats fact

[JC_81]

I notice virtually everyone has gone for Gonzalez at left mid , is he that good that he automatically gets the nod ahead of a fit Harry Kewell or even Zenden and Riise ?

I think it'll take a while for Gonzalez to settle - looked pretty out of sorts in the Kaiserslautern game although it's harsh to judge him on that game.  If he found it hard integrating into the team in that game, the hustle and bustle of the premiership will be even harder for him.  The thing is though, if you don't give him games then he won't adapt.  With Kewell out at the start of the season it's the best time to give Gonzalez a couple of games, but away from home I think Benitez will play Aurelio ahead of Gonzalez at left mid when the premiership starts.  Over the season however I can't see anyone completely nailing down the left flank as their own - whoever's in form will play.

[woof woof !]

Good question regarding Gonzalez. I don't think he'll have a fantastic season, he may need some time before he settles in. Zenden imo isn't the solution on the left, he's lost the pace he once has when he was younger and he doesn't have that trickery about him. He's much better in the center where he's played in the past couple of seasons.

Riise, he's solid enough as a left-back but not good enough to be a left winger week in and week out. He's too limited as a footballer.

Not suggesting Zenden would be a solution on the left AB , but barring injury or Rafa wanting to rest people I don't see Zenden displacing any of of current central midfielders, his best chance of a start might be at left mid.

As for Riise , i'm one of those people who actually prefer him at left mid rather than left back , but again I'm not suggesting he is the solution hence my query about "how good is Gonzalez" .

[JC_81]

And Gerrards best position is in the middle he will score more goals and thats fact

No mate.  The only FACT is that Gerrard scored more goals last season from the right of midfield than he's ever done from the centre.  Everything else is opinion.

[RichardLFC1]

I notice virtually everyone has gone for Gonzalez at left mid , is he that good that he automatically gets the nod ahead of a fit Harry Kewell or even Zenden and Riise ?

Zendens main position will be a covering midfield isnt it ? and in the kaiserslauten game i neva saw to much of him but i know he is great and i think he should be our 1st choice lm

[RichardLFC1]

And Gerrards best position is in the middle he will score more goals and thats fact

No mate.  The only FACT is that Gerrard scored more goals last season from the right of midfield than he's ever done from the centre.  Everything else is opinion.

Well he may have scored more goals but for England and Liverpool he looks more confortable in the middle as that is his position and should start there not on the right when we have pennant

[JC_81]

And Gerrards best position is in the middle he will score more goals and thats fact

No mate.  The only FACT is that Gerrard scored more goals last season from the right of midfield than he's ever done from the centre.  Everything else is opinion.

Well he may have scored more goals but for England and Liverpool he looks more confortable in the middle as that is his position and should start there not on the right when we have pennant

... in your opinion

[Liverpool_In_My_Blood]

Our best 11 most contain Momo. That will mean Gerrard is either on the right or we change our formation. But Momo must start.

[woof woof !]

Reina

Finnan        Carragher  Hyypia       Riise

Gerrard        Alonso    Sissoko      Gonzalez

                  Bellamy   Crouch

Subs : Dudek Palletta Pennant Garcia Fowler

Mine would be same team but Fowler for Crouch

So we spent 6.7 million for pennant just to sit on the bench and Gerrard to play out of position again

Out of position according to who ?
He had his best season last year playing on the right and seemed to revel in the freedom it gave him.
I am made up with the signing of Pennant he will give Rafa so many more options, but asked to pick my first choice eleven...at the moment he isnt in it.

According to me he is playing out of position. And last season Most liverpool fans including myself were upset with not signing a rw now we have Pennant we want to keep Gerrard as our rw. And Gerrards best position is in the middle he will score more goals and thats fact

I'm with you on that one . Gerrards best position is as an attacking central midfielder . The fact that he played so well at right mid is no more than a testament to the fella's ability and shouldn't disguise the fact that bursting forward from central midfield is Gerrard at his very best .

If as some suggest Gerrards best position is indeed right mid why the f'uck has Rafa just spent £6 million plus on Pennant ?

I wasn't one of those who celebrated the arrival of Pennant but now that he's here I'd be more than suprised if Rafa didn't use him and instead continued to play Gerrard on the right .

[OctopusesGarden]

Home Team                                                    Away team

                    Pepe                                                              Pepe

Finnan   Charragher  Hyypia  Riise                       Finnan   Charragher  Hyypia  Riise

Pennant  Alonso  Gerrard  Gonzalez                                  Alonso   Sissoko

               Bellamy  Crouch                               Pennant                         Gonzalez     
                                                                                      Gerrard
         
                                                                                       Bellamy

Subs: Fowler, Kewell, Palleta, Sissoko, Carson

[JC_81]

If as some suggest Gerrards best position is indeed right mid why the f'uck has Rafa just spent £6 million plus on Pennant ?

Because if any of Sissoko, Alonso or Gerrard isn't playing for whatever reason then the natural thing to do would be to play 2 of them in the centre and bring Pennant in on the right.  Being 1st in line as back up to all 3 of those players will still mean he'll get over 20 games in a season I'd think.  Plus he's a different option who can come on and change a game.  He also might be the better option in home games against lesser sides than say Sissoko for example as we'd have more of a goal threat. 

But against the big sides I think you need to have Alonso, Gerrard and Sissoko in the side if they're available.  For me that means playing Gerrard on the right because none of our strikers are suited to being a lone striker (unless we buy someone else), which would enable Gerrard to play as an attacking central midfielder/second striker.

[LFCFan4Life]

Good question regarding Gonzalez. I don't think he'll have a fantastic season, he may need some time before he settles in. Zenden imo isn't the solution on the left, he's lost the pace he once has when he was younger and he doesn't have that trickery about him. He's much better in the center where he's played in the past couple of seasons.

Riise, he's solid enough as a left-back but not good enough to be a left winger week in and week out. He's too limited as a footballer.

Not suggesting Zenden would be a solution on the left AB , but barring injury or Rafa wanting to rest people I don't see Zenden displacing any of of current central midfielders, his best chance of a start might be at left mid.

As for Riise , i'm one of those people who actually prefer him at left mid rather than left back , but again I'm not suggesting he is the solution hence my query about "how good is Gonzalez" .

I agree regarding Zenden not playing much in the center if there aren't injuries. This summer we've added a lot of pace into the squad which is what we lacked last season. Cisse was the only player that could be explosive in terms of pace, but he was limited.

I think with Gonzalez,Pennant and Bellamy, Benitez is aiming to improve us when we counter-attack and break down stubborn defending teams at Anfield.

Who knows what the formation will look like, it's been a while since we've had so many options.

[RichardLFC1]

Because if any of Sissoko, Alonso or Gerrard isn't playing for whatever reason then the natural thing to do would be to play 2 of them in the centre and bring Pennant in on the right.  Being 1st in line as back up to all 3 of those players will still mean he'll get over 20 games in a season I'd think. 

So rafa who never pays out of the odds for players has decided to pay 6 million+ for pennant for the bench

[LFCFan4Life]

Because if any of Sissoko, Alonso or Gerrard isn't playing for whatever reason then the natural thing to do would be to play 2 of them in the centre and bring Pennant in on the right.  Being 1st in line as back up to all 3 of those players will still mean he'll get over 20 games in a season I'd think. 

So rafa who never pays out of the odds for players has decided to pay 6 million+ for pennant for the bench

No, that's not correct. We can't depend on Gerrard to play on the right for the entire season like we did last year. I expect that Gerrard will play on the right against the tougher opposition, in the top four.

Pennant will play in plenty of games and with Rafa's rotation policy, I don't see the problem. Had we signed Alves,Simao or whoever, it would had been the same thing.

[Effes]

REINA

FINNAN   CARRA    PALETTA   AURELIO

                    ALONSO      SISSOKO
PENNANT                                              GONZALEZ
                             GERRARD

                              BELLAMY

Alonso, Sissoko and Gerrard are the the 3 key players - we did terrific last season when they played.