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[heimdall]

I seriously doubt he'd go there, if he does then I won't really be bothered to be honest.

His signings since taking control of the club have been poor at best.

Poor at best?  How the are Torres, Alonso, Masch, Agger and Reina poor signings?

That wasn't my quote?

[DRARREG8]

benetiz is going nowhere, he's staying in liverpool and i have the faith that he's going to return liverpool to the 80s and we're gonna dominate the epl soon

[neil]

I seriously doubt he'd go there, if he does then I won't really be bothered to be honest.

His signings since taking control of the club have been poor at best.

Poor at best?  How the are Torres, Alonso, Masch, Agger and Reina poor signings?

That wasn't my quote?

interesting..

[Emerald Red]

My first post on here. Rafa for Barca, this would be a great day for Liverpool if Jose was to come in as his replacement. Rafa will never win the premier league title with Liverpool. His transfer dealings are poor, he has not made us into contenders despite spending over £170 million. His tactics are very poor against premiership opposition and he has a record of played 10 won 0 drawn 0 lost 10 scoring one against the top 3 away from home.

The man is no genius is he? Couldn't anybody boast a record similar to that

Rafa is a good coach but conducts himself like a spoilt child when it comes to transfer funds and his public dealings with the owners. The new owners have provided him with as much money as anybody this summer and this despite the fact that they do not even speak!

I am braced for the diehard responses!

Here's my die hard response.

Your first post on here and it's a calamitous whopper!

Question: are you stoned?

[Kharhaz]

I seriously doubt he'd go there, if he does then I won't really be bothered to be honest.

His signings since taking control of the club have been poor at best.

Poor at best?  How the are Torres, Alonso, Masch, Agger and Reina poor signings?

It was meant as a General statement.

I'd expect him to pull a couple of good signings out, Reina was a great signing, Alonso very good and Mascherano very good.

Also Torres, even though the huge fee was an immense signing, but the likes of Kuyt, Voronin, Bellamy, Babel, Skrtel, Aurelio, Pellegrino, Nunez and all the money wasted on these "youngsters" is a joke.

He's wasted far to much on junk.

Welcome back stu, good to see ya back.

I disagree with babel, aurelio and skrtel. I think these players have a great future with lfc. Waste of money? no chance. Aurelio has suffered with injuries but in his time injury free he has shown signs of getting fitter and looking at what we have he for me is our best choice at left back. Skrtel also looks the part, he to me is our future carragher, just needs more time, hes only been here a few months. And babel, hes quick, hes direct and he clearly has the talent. If we are looking for scapegoats for poor performances then surely we have to look at the team in full rather than individuals. Against utd, where was our key players? the players who have been here for years, the players who know how these games go. A few times this season our "best" players have gone missing and the new lads have been blamed for it.

[Emerald Red]

I seriously doubt he'd go there, if he does then I won't really be bothered to be honest.

His signings since taking control of the club have been poor at best.

Poor at best?  How the are Torres, Alonso, Masch, Agger and Reina poor signings?

It was meant as a General statement.

I'd expect him to pull a couple of good signings out, Reina was a great signing, Alonso very good and Mascherano very good.

Also Torres, even though the huge fee was an immense signing, but the likes of Kuyt, Voronin, Bellamy, Babel, Skrtel, Aurelio, Pellegrino, Nunez and all the money wasted on these "youngsters" is a joke.

He's wasted far to much on junk.

Has he?

I'm fairly certain (if someone like Ozwat or LFC2007 would kindly dig out the stats) that Rafa mostly recoups, or could recoup and actually make a profit, out of some of these so called terrible signings he's made. The man isn't an idiot. I'm sure he's well versed in the business schematics of the transfer market.

[ruskiy playmaker]

benetiz is going nowhere, he's staying in liverpool and i have the faith that he's going to return liverpool to the 80s and we're gonna dominate the epl soon

Hell yeah!  I'm sure he'll bring the league trophy back to Liverpool soon.

IN RAFA WE TRUST! 

[Emerald Red]

IN RAFA WE TRUST! 

You should change that "we" to an "I", mate. You don't want to offend anyone by generalizing with that slogan, now do you? 

[ruskiy playmaker]

IN RAFA WE TRUST! 

You should change that "we" to an "I", mate. You don't want to offend anyone by generalizing with that slogan, now do you? 

You're right, what was I thinking.  I could get banned for saying stuff like that on this forum, but I'm sure these guys would agree with me.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyol5WdXs7o

[RedBlood]

I seriously doubt he'd go there, if he does then I won't really be bothered to be honest.

His signings since taking control of the club have been poor at best.

Poor at best?  How the are Torres, Alonso, Masch, Agger and Reina poor signings?

It was meant as a General statement.

I'd expect him to pull a couple of good signings out, Reina was a great signing, Alonso very good and Mascherano very good.

Also Torres, even though the huge fee was an immense signing, but the likes of Kuyt, Voronin, Bellamy, Babel, Skrtel, Aurelio, Pellegrino, Nunez and all the money wasted on these "youngsters" is a joke.

He's wasted far to much on junk.

in GENERAL benitezs signings have been good ones and the ones that have failed to settle have been sold off quickly more often then not for a profit or atleast what we paid for them

and i would give it a season or two before you go calling players like babel and skrtel a waste of money otherwise you could look very very silly and the youngsters he has signed are currently tp of the reserve league and have just won the dallas cup so again give them time before you critisize

[Fo Dne]

The Dallas cup?



You have to be joking. Wow, my mate played in that last year now he plays for Northwhich... so that shows the standard of that in comparrison to the permiership.

I called it early on Baros, Sissoko, Kuyt, Finnan, Carragher and just about everyone else... unlike some I don't need 38 games to decide if a player can pass a ball and is a decent player. It takes a few minutes to see the basics, a couple of games to see the detail.

[Kharhaz]

I called it early on Baros, Sissoko, Kuyt, Finnan, Carragher and just about everyone else... unlike some I don't need 38 games to decide if a player can pass a ball and is a decent player. It takes a few minutes to see the basics, a couple of games to see the detail.

But how long to see the potential?

[RedBlood]

The Dallas cup?



You have to be joking. Wow, my mate played in that last year now he plays for Northwhich... so that shows the standard of that in comparrison to the permiership.

I called it early on Baros, Sissoko, Kuyt, Finnan, Carragher and just about everyone else... unlike some I don't need 38 games to decide if a player can pass a ball and is a decent player. It takes a few minutes to see the basics, a couple of games to see the detail.

you can only beat what is infront of you and we beat them well

maybe you should be a football manager??

if you are good at something or you know something well you dont have to boast mate

[Fo Dne]

I called it early on Baros, Sissoko, Kuyt, Finnan, Carragher and just about everyone else... unlike some I don't need 38 games to decide if a player can pass a ball and is a decent player. It takes a few minutes to see the basics, a couple of games to see the detail.

But how long to see the potential?

A couple of games, to many people don't know what potential is. Players don't become something they aren't and don't get skills they haven't got. If they can't pass and control a ball or head a ball at 17 they'll never do it be the time they're 25.

Much like with Jack Hobbs, he's nowhere near good enough, absoloutely nowhere near. He's a League one player at very very best.

[Kharhaz]

I called it early on Baros, Sissoko, Kuyt, Finnan, Carragher and just about everyone else... unlike some I don't need 38 games to decide if a player can pass a ball and is a decent player. It takes a few minutes to see the basics, a couple of games to see the detail.

But how long to see the potential?

A couple of games, to many people don't know what potential is. Players don't become something they aren't and don't get skills they haven't got. If they can't pass and control a ball or head a ball at 17 they'll never do it be the time they're 25.

Much like with Jack Hobbs, he's nowhere near good enough, absoloutely nowhere near. He's a League one player at very very best.

But in todays game thats exactly how it is, look at beckham, he can pass a ball and cross one but other than that what does he offer? You have ITV commentators, BBC commentators, SKY commentators, all wetting themselves over what a great player he has been. He hasnt. He hasnt been a great player, he has done what was required to just simply play football. When I mention potential, im comparing todays players to ...well.... todays players ! just to do the basics. The players we have can offer so much more, they can also dribble the ball and have better control. People like hobbs, no I agree they are not the best but people like Lucas, babel, yes they can be better it all depends on what we are looking for in class players. Potential to me means at a young age knowing the all round play of a game, than just being able to pass a ball.