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[Benny The Noon]

Anyway - back to what is acceptable this season

Well as a Liverpool fan I was brought up to believe that anything less than 1st is unacceptable , there is no success in coming 2nd or below. There is success in winning trophies so I expect the club to try and win every single trophy we go for. Coming 6/7/8th is mediocrity and that's no acceptable , getting knocked out early in the cups is mediocrity and that's not acceptable.

We have never accepted anything less than the best and I hope we don't start now. Not being in the CL is unacceptable.

[Thommo's perm]

Anyone who praises other teams while criticising ours is a pr'ick in my humble opinion. Im really not the slightest bit interested in who other teams have bought and how well theyre going to do. I leave that to THEIR fans. I care about LFC and as far as I'm concerned we have had an excellent start with maximum points and three clean sheets.
Anyone who doesnt see that as a good thing should fu'ck off and support someone else.

[Igor Zidane]

We are gonna win the thing I'm telling yeh. Me and my mate have gone halves on £50 e/w on us to win the league . 25/1 we gotwith William hills I think it was.

[Benny The Noon]

Anyone who praises other teams while criticising ours is a pr'ick in my humble opinion. Im really not the slightest bit interested in who other teams have bought and how well theyre going to do. I leave that to THEIR fans. I care about LFC and as far as I'm concerned we have had an excellent start with maximum points and three clean sheets.
Anyone who doesnt see that as a good thing should fu'ck off and support someone else.

I can't recall anyone saying that starting with 3 wins isn't a good thing. 

[Benny The Noon]

We are gonna win the thing I'm telling yeh. Me and my mate have gone halves on £50 e/w on us to win the league . 25/1 we gotwith William hills I think it was.

Should have gone to Coral - 50/1 there at the beginning

[devaney]

BTN - I'm not interested in derailing this thread. You are making some serious accusations. Send me a PM with details of the campaign that I am supposed to have started to get you removed.

[tadhger09]

Always ifs and buts in football - but I would be very wary to write off the Mancs just yet - RvP scores for fun and their overall squad is still clearly better than ours. Moyes may not have won anything but spent the last two years above us despite spending considerably less money. They may not win the title but they will be in the top 3 with clear space below them. City have a quality manager who will prove himself - again wouldn't start writing them off.

Yes we have started well in term of points gained but our performances are far from convincing - we can't continue with the same performances or we will come very unstuck very soon, big improvement is needed. We played well last season with zero pressure and nothing to play for - do that with the pressures of being in the fight for top 4 and then it can become a reality. Kenny had one good half season but it then fell apart - half a seasons got the team nowhere , getting CL form from Jan is meaningless - it needs to be from August through to May. It's four years now without CL and I expect it every season - each season we miss out means it gets harder to get back in.

There are more and more rumours coming out about RVP's discontent with Moyes in recent days. If there is even a glimmer of truth to this then I cant see him having a record breaking season or even a similar one to last season or the season before. Its being reported that he is unhappy with training and isn't convinced with the new manager, also stating he misses the old one.  Rumours I know but it would explain his lack of capacity to keep his head in both the Chavski game and the one against ourselves where he should have been sent walking.

In our favour we have Freddy Mercury to return and Sturridge is on the crest of a wave since his arrival in Jan. Same could be said about Coutinho, he too has impressed since his new year arrival. When I mentioned earlier about our form since Jan til now being top 4 form is primarily down to the way those 3 players played since that time and in particular the latter two. Form is still form no matter when its occurring, our form has been excellent since that time and the really positive thing for me is we have continued it into this season. The signs are promising when we win 3 in a row and getting one over the mancs in the process is even creamier.

Lots of time to go I know but if we can keep playing the way we are currently we will give our rivals for top 4 a real push. Grinding out one nil wins won Mourinho how many leagues? And winning when we would have lost or drawn those games last season is also a huge positive, proves something is working with new shrink/confidents coach, the same guy who helped inspire British cycling to the very pinnacle of the sport. We are showing more resilience this season and the team seem really together in defending and celebrating goals.

We are heading in the right direction Benny, I have no doubt in my mind about that and we are doing that then praise has to be given to the manager.

[RedAnt]

Anyway - back to what is acceptable this season

Well as a Liverpool fan I was brought up to believe that anything less than 1st is unacceptable , there is no success in coming 2nd or below. There is success in winning trophies so I expect the club to try and win every single trophy we go for. Coming 6/7/8th is mediocrity and that's no acceptable , getting knocked out early in the cups is mediocrity and that's not acceptable.

We have never accepted anything less than the best and I hope we don't start now. Not being in the CL is unacceptable.

You're losing the plot here. First of all, we've not been top for a long time. Time to realise that. Then you emphasise it by saying we only accept the best, but 4th place isn't best. You're so contradictory.

We're rebuilding. There simply is no other way, and if we keep firing managers for not winning the league, well it's a shame that when you grew up with these high expectancies, you didn't adopt any of the other traits such as the majority of us.

You probably think I'm having a go. But your attitude stinks.

[Hustler 2]

way to early to write united off, moyes is no ferguson but he`s no mug either, he`s finished above us a couple of times having just a fraction of our budget, given time he`ll produce a decent side there.
saying that i think they`ll deffo come back to the pack, under ferguson united were the team to beat, if you finished above united more often than not that meant you won the league, i think united will now be like everyone else, just one of a pack of clubs competing for the top honours/CL places.
re liverpool i like what rodgers is doing, he knows the owners arent giving him the resources to go toe to toe with the other top clubs in the transfer market so he`s trying to bridge that gap by getting absolutely everything out of our squad.
the players are grafting their @rses off, the team spirit is as good as i`ve seen it in decades and the players look like they are playing for each other and more importantly - the shirt.
in the past we went to places like barceona with johan cruyff in their line up and beat them on their own ground because we were a proper team, in other words when 11 players came together they became something much greater than the sum of their individual parts, thats what rodgers is trying to do now.
it`s not easy to get 11 pampered millionaires from all corners of the earth with very little in common to fight for each other and run themselves into the ground for a common cause, brendan looks like he may be doing it.
where ever we finish this season fair dues to brendan for bringing a work ethic and pride back to the shirt.

I'm not writing United off. I said their golden age is over and I stand by it. Things have shifted. Those things we can't quite point to.

But are you forgetting they won the league at a canter with that squad last season?
Things haven't shifted that much yet.

We've won 3 games , yeah. But we have not looked convincing in any of the wins. We will know by Christmas exactly where we look like finishing, I.E: if we are out of the title race etc etc.

[Benny The Noon]

Anyway - back to what is acceptable this season

Well as a Liverpool fan I was brought up to believe that anything less than 1st is unacceptable , there is no success in coming 2nd or below. There is success in winning trophies so I expect the club to try and win every single trophy we go for. Coming 6/7/8th is mediocrity and that's no acceptable , getting knocked out early in the cups is mediocrity and that's not acceptable.

We have never accepted anything less than the best and I hope we don't start now. Not being in the CL is unacceptable.

You're losing the plot here. First of all, we've not been top for a long time. Time to realise that. Then you emphasise it by saying we only accept the best, but 4th place isn't best. You're so contradictory.

We're rebuilding. There simply is no other way, and if we keep firing managers for not winning the league, well it's a shame that when you grew up with these high expectancies, you didn't adopt any of the other traits such as the majority of us.

You probably think I'm having a go. But your attitude stinks.

I didnt say anything about 4th place

I also never said anything about firing any manager for not winning the league. There has only been one manager I have asked to be sacked and that was Woy.

[Hustler 2]

Brendan Rodgers is a manager in the Shankly mode and as such must be given time to progress.
Those who were moaning like arl tarts through the transfer window because of the lack of a "marquee" signing are looking pretty foolish now that we are undefeated and on top of the league.

That post was major silly I'm afraid. How is Rodgers in the Shankly mode?    He hasn't done  diddly squat yet for Liverpool.

We're not looking that foolish yet,especially if we lose the next 6 games. 
3 games means nothing at all.

[Benny The Noon]

Always ifs and buts in football - but I would be very wary to write off the Mancs just yet - RvP scores for fun and their overall squad is still clearly better than ours. Moyes may not have won anything but spent the last two years above us despite spending considerably less money. They may not win the title but they will be in the top 3 with clear space below them. City have a quality manager who will prove himself - again wouldn't start writing them off.

Yes we have started well in term of points gained but our performances are far from convincing - we can't continue with the same performances or we will come very unstuck very soon, big improvement is needed. We played well last season with zero pressure and nothing to play for - do that with the pressures of being in the fight for top 4 and then it can become a reality. Kenny had one good half season but it then fell apart - half a seasons got the team nowhere , getting CL form from Jan is meaningless - it needs to be from August through to May. It's four years now without CL and I expect it every season - each season we miss out means it gets harder to get back in.

There are more and more rumours coming out about RVP's discontent with Moyes in recent days. If there is even a glimmer of truth to this then I cant see him having a record breaking season or even a similar one to last season or the season before. Its being reported that he is unhappy with training and isn't convinced with the new manager, also stating he misses the old one.  Rumours I know but it would explain his lack of capacity to keep his head in both the Chavski game and the one against ourselves where he should have been sent walking.

In our favour we have Freddy Mercury to return and Sturridge is on the crest of a wave since his arrival in Jan. Same could be said about Coutinho, he too has impressed since his new year arrival. When I mentioned earlier about our form since Jan til now being top 4 form is primarily down to the way those 3 players played since that time and in particular the latter two. Form is still form no matter when its occurring, our form has been excellent since that time and the really positive thing for me is we have continued it into this season. The signs are promising when we win 3 in a row and getting one over the mancs in the process is even creamier.

Lots of time to go I know but if we can keep playing the way we are currently we will give our rivals for top 4 a real push. Grinding out one nil wins won Mourinho how many leagues? And winning when we would have lost or drawn those games last season is also a huge positive, proves something is working with new shrink/confidents coach, the same guy who helped inspire British cycling to the very pinnacle of the sport. We are showing more resilience this season and the team seem really together in defending and celebrating goals.

We are heading in the right direction Benny, I have no doubt in my mind about that and we are doing that then praise has to be given to the manager.

RvP has already come out and stated the rumours are pure nonsense and utter fabrication from the media - it's not unexpected really and it was the obvious rumour from the press.

We aren't grinding one nil wins like Maureen did though - because they never looked in danger - we see getting a goal early the hanging on for dear life by our finger nails relying on a couple wonder saves. We need to get a lot more solid and energetic in the second half or those 1 nils will quickly turn into 1-1 or 1-2 in a instant. The pressure will start to mount soon and then we will see the mental strength of the team/squad - there was no pressure on us from last Jan and even starting the season there was no pressure on the players but that will change as they win a few more - then you find out exactly what shape the squad is in.

[damjan193]

I haven't seen anyone mentioning here what happens if we don't reach the acceptable result this season. Should someone be punished or do we just shake our heads and say that it isn't good enough but take no actions? I've seen Benny indicating that he wants the whole management along with the owners to be kicked out (which will just result in further decline IMO) but nothing concretely has been said. What are rest of you thinking?

[Thommo's perm]

Brendan Rodgers is a manager in the Shankly mode and as such must be given time to progress.
Those who were moaning like arl tarts through the transfer window because of the lack of a "marquee" signing are looking pretty foolish now that we are undefeated and on top of the league.

That post was major silly I'm afraid. How is Rodgers in the Shankly mode?    He hasn't done  diddly squat yet for Liverpool.

We're not looking that foolish yet,especially if we lose the next 6 games. 
3 games means nothing at all.

What do you think is silly about it?

[Thommo's perm]

Anyone who praises other teams while criticising ours is a pr'ick in my humble opinion. Im really not the slightest bit interested in who other teams have bought and how well theyre going to do. I leave that to THEIR fans. I care about LFC and as far as I'm concerned we have had an excellent start with maximum points and three clean sheets.
Anyone who doesnt see that as a good thing should fu'ck off and support someone else.

I can't recall anyone saying that starting with 3 wins isn't a good thing. 

Anyone who praises other teams while criticising ours is a pr'ick in my humble opinion. Im really not the slightest bit interested in who other teams have bought and how well theyre going to do. I leave that to THEIR fans. I care about LFC and as far as I'm concerned we have had an excellent start with maximum points and three clean sheets.