whats acceptable this season?

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Postby Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm

Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?
An FA cup? League cup? 4th place? Or a Europa league place?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:34 pm

What's acceptable will be determined by what people's expectations are - I expect the club to challenge for as long as possible in the cups with possibly winning one. I also expect the club to be in the top 4 in the Prem. Anything below that and it's not good enough.
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Postby Greavesie » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:46 pm

Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?
An FA cup? League cup? 4th place? Or a Europa league place?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?


I've stopped really looking at minimum requirements for the time being personally. We've had some low times recently so anything that looks promising enough to haul us out of them is fine with me - I will say I'm looking at the top 4 this season but whether we get it or not is a big ask. Rodgers has us playing some of the best stuff in recent years and I don't go into matches thinking we'll mess it up and surrender a lead or simply just lie down and get beat. This is a side where I see genuine comardarie with fight in them. I don't see why we're contemplating sacking the man
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 5:21 pm

I would think that the minimum requirement for the team this campaign is progress on last season.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:52 pm

Greavesie » Sat Sep 07, 2013 4:46 pm wrote:
Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?
An FA cup? League cup? 4th place? Or a Europa league place?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?


I've stopped really looking at minimum requirements for the time being personally. We've had some low times recently so anything that looks promising enough to haul us out of them is fine with me - I will say I'm looking at the top 4 this season but whether we get it or not is a big ask. Rodgers has us playing some of the best stuff in recent years and I don't go into matches thinking we'll mess it up and surrender a lead or simply just lie down and get beat. This is a side where I see genuine comardarie with fight in them. I don't see why we're contemplating sacking the man


To be honest I think thats one thing this side doesn't have... is fight.

Last season if we went a goal down that was it. Gone. Match lost. Thats something that really needs to improve this year, but with Gerrard getting older, no Carragher and our best player wanting to leave, I can't see this aspect changing much.

I think for Liverpool FC anything other than a title challenge is a poor season. I think spending money on players should result in them improving the side. But thats not always the case.

Rodgers deserves a chance to put it right, then next season if we aren't involved in a title challenge then its time to look at whether he's the right man for the job. We all know that defensively we aren't the best and are susceptable to set pieces and arial bombardment. We also know at times last season there was no "plan B" and we also know that Gerrard is coming to the end.

Three major issues that need to be worked on and we need answers for next season.
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:07 pm

Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?


Honestly, I think most of us would accept that under Rodgers we've been playing some good footy . Still some questions to be asked about a fella that's still making his way in the top flight  BUT if we fail to make the top four we have to ask is it really just down to HIM ?

We don't have (or the owners are no longer prepared to provide) the silly money other clubs are splashing out on "star" signings . The way we've been playing if we fail to make the top four I'd say the reason lies  far deeper than Brendan's management.

Maybe instead we should be asking  " what's FSG's vision for the future of Liverpool FC ?"
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Postby 7_Kewell » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:29 pm

it's got to be progress, even if that's 5th place. 

There's no denying that the style of play is better under Rodgers, and there's clear signs of promise in our approach and football. For this reason, I think BR will continue to get patience from the fans, for now...
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:30 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:07 pm wrote:
Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?


Honestly, I think most of us would accept that under Rodgers we've been playing some good footy . Still some questions to be asked about a fella that's still making his way in the top flight  BUT if we fail to make the top four we have to ask is it really just down to HIM ?

We don't have (or the owners are no longer prepared to provide) the silly money other clubs are splashing out on "star" signings . The way we've been playing if we fail to make the top four I'd say the reason lies  far deeper than Brendan's management.

Maybe instead we should be asking  " what's FSG's vision for the future of Liverpool FC ?"


That is the exact question that will need to be asked Woof.
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Postby Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:15 pm

woof woof ! » Sat Sep 07, 2013 8:07 pm wrote:
Hustler 2 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:06 pm wrote:Ok I know i'm probably gonna stir your emotions here, by suggesting that the manager should go if we don't get 4th, but whats acceptable to all of you this season and to the board, to call this season a success?

I think 4th place, and 4th place only is the minimum requirement for Rodgers to stay. Reason, if we dont get 4th Suarez will def be gone, and we wont be able to attract any big names.
To me that is a disastrous scenario.

Im not gonna say sack the manager, but should he automatically go if no 4th place or trophies, bearing in mind the knock on effect.

what do you all think is minimum requirement this season.?


Honestly, I think most of us would accept that under Rodgers we've been playing some good footy . Still some questions to be asked about a fella that's still making his way in the top flight  BUT if we fail to make the top four we have to ask is it really just down to HIM ?

We don't have (or the owners are no longer prepared to provide) the silly money other clubs are splashing out on "star" signings . The way we've been playing if we fail to make the top four I'd say the reason lies  far deeper than Brendan's management.

Maybe instead we should be asking  " what's FSG's vision for the future of Liverpool FC ?"

Woof its a fair point, I know its not 100% his fault, but he has made quite a few signings since he arrived, so the board have backed him to an extent, but a lot of these signings you've never heard of doesnt inspire confidence.

I think top players dont want to come here anyway, as we are not a CL side currently.

I hope he does prove me wrong.
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Postby RedAnt » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:27 pm

Brendan is building. Already we look a better side. Unless BR turns out to be an absolute doofus, he'll be here for a long time I should think. The teams around us have made a lot of progress, so there'll be time and room for error yet. As long as we keep moving in the right direction and gathering momentum, then that's fine by me. Over the course of the season I'd say 4th, 5th and maybe 6th, depending on the manner of it, should suffice.
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Postby Scottbot » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:42 pm

If he gets us into 4th place he will have done it with one hand tied behind his back, am amazed to see so few of you acknowledging that in this thread. Our first 11 is looking pretty decent but the squad doesn't match up to last year's top 4 and it doesn't match up to Spurs either. I'll be kissing Brendan's feet if he can get LFC back into the Champions League with the limited backing he has received from this lot.
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Postby damjan193 » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:00 pm

Scottbot » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:42 pm wrote:If he gets us into 4th place he will have done it with one hand tied behind his back, am amazed to see so few of you acknowledging that in this thread. Our first 11 is looking pretty decent but the squad doesn't match up to last year's top 4 and it doesn't match up to Spurs either. I'll be kissing Brendan's feet if he can get LFC back into the Champions League with the limited backing he has received from this lot.

This is correct. Brendan is a good manager but you have to be something special to achieve top 4 considering our rivals' and our own squad.

Having said that, I think that Rodgers has what it takes even with this squad. Our starting 11 is looking good and with a little bit of luck I think that we can get there. I recon it will be a very close call between us and Arsenal. It will be a dramatic finish with tears on one side and smiles on the other.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:09 pm

BR has a long way to go to convince me that he has what it takes as a manager - as a coach I think he is very good and has proven that but as a manager he has so far fell short and has achieved nothing so far. Last season BR was the first manager to ever have a "free" season - it was a poor result in the league and cups by any standards. We cannot have the same again this season and BR can't hide behind the owners.
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Postby Hustler 2 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:11 am

Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:09 pm wrote:BR has a long way to go to convince me that he has what it takes as a manager - as a coach I think he is very good and has proven that but as a manager he has so far fell short and has achieved nothing so far. Last season BR was the first manager to ever have a "free" season - it was a poor result in the league and cups by any standards. We cannot have the same again this season and BR can't hide behind the owners.

At last Benny you talk some sense. Your best post yet. :) hustler
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Postby Hustler 2 » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:45 am

The reason I started this topic was, I was worried about us not getting 4th. If that did happen, we wont attract any top names + Suarez gone next season!

We will be going backwards, not forwards as a club.

How is that acceptable, to any fan ;)
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