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[Benny The Noon]

And I don't play FIFA or Footy manager as well.

It's called research and the Internet.

[LFC1990]

Neither has Benny or He wouldnt have wasted his time typing their names. None of them are as prolific as we currently need.

Mlepa i have never heard of.

Isco Okay very good up and coming but we have that in Yesil and others and with 6 goals in 36 for Malaga thats not really anything special the only time he has scored more than that was 16 in 50 odd for Valencia B

Zeefuik has scored 28 goals at senior level at club level thats in 111 games for teams like PSV Gronigen where he got 1 goal for each other clubs are the famous omniworld Dordrecht and NEC.

Moving on to Rodrigo who played for Bolton 2 seasons ago Netting 1 goal in 17 apperances he has scored 19 goals in 63 apperances again at club senior level.

Gary hooper probably scored the most with 124 in 274 games which isnt bad I suppose but for these teams Grays Athletic Southend Leyton orient Hereford Scunthorpe and Now celtic.

The young Yilmak at 27 who has scored 93 times. in 223 apperances mostly in the turkish league with trazonspor fenerbache, Beskitas and Galatasaray

Sturridge 85 games 26 goals

Those players arent goal scorers hopefully I proved it with my stats.

Suarez isnt our tricky player we need someone to bury chances a goal scorers touch.

Some one like Soladado who has a record of about 1 goal in 2 games ratio. He is 27

[The Raven]

And I don't play FIFA or Footy manager as well.

You should its great!!!


sturridge would be a sound buy. He is hungry to prove something, quick neat and should be in price range.

[Benny The Noon]

Neither has Benny or He wouldnt have wasted his time typing their names. None of them are as prolific as we currently need.

Mlepa i have never heard of.

Isco Okay very good up and coming but we have that in Yesil and others and with 6 goals in 36 for Malaga thats not really anything special the only time he has scored more than that was 16 in 50 odd for Valencia B

Zeefuik has scored 28 goals at senior level at club level thats in 111 games for teams like PSV Gronigen where he got 1 goal for each other clubs are the famous omniworld Dordrecht and NEC.

Moving on to Rodrigo who played for Bolton 2 seasons ago Netting 1 goal in 17 apperances he has scored 19 goals in 63 apperances again at club senior level.

Gary hooper probably scored the most with 124 in 274 games which isnt bad I suppose but for these teams Grays Athletic Southend Leyton orient Hereford Scunthorpe and Now celtic.

The young Yilmak at 27 who has scored 93 times. in 223 apperances mostly in the turkish league with trazonspor fenerbache, Beskitas and Galatasaray

Sturridge 85 games 26 goals

Those players arent goal scorers hopefully I proved it with my stats.

Suarez isnt our tricky player we need someone to bury chances a goal scorers touch.

Some one like Soladado who has a record of about 1 goal in 2 games ratio. He is 27

If only everything in football was about stats !

Most of the players I mentioned bar Yilmaz and Hooper are under 21 and are highly rated in their respective country and have great potential - those are the sort of players that can be moulded into quality players. Those are the sort of players the owners would buy and the sort that BR would love to coach.

The club will not be paying over £20mil for players like Soldaldo - it will not be throwing big fees and big wages around.

Stats don't tell the full story Richard - try and do a bit more research than Wikipedia.

The owners will fork out money for players like Rodrigo and Isco over CL wage players like Soldaldo.

[LFC1990]

You said for me to do some research other than Wikipedia how about you do some research of any sort as Sturridge is 23 and Zeefuik is 22 not under 21. Rodrigo is actually bang on 21.

The owners have forked out 35 million for Caroll and 18+ for Hendo and Downing why wont they do it again

[Benny The Noon]

Why do you think they won't do it again ?!

Maybe because the last big money buys were roaring successes perhaps ?!?

Maybe because they want to move away from big fees and big wages - maybe you should read what Henry said in his letter.

Responsible buying.

The players are all highly rated young players Richard - perfect for what the owners and BR wants.

Especially Rodrigo with the club already reported to be interested in him ( scouts have watched him for Benfica and Spain Under 21)

You can argue semantics with me all night long but you will find out in Jan , just like in the summer - no more big fees and CL wages for players.

You enjoy your stats from FM

[LFC1990]

Responsible buying doesnt mean cheap second rate players. Responsible buying means buying if they are worth the value. If Messi came available for 20 million would Liverpool not be interested

My stats from FM you told me where i got my stats from and thats wikipedia.

[Benny The Noon]

When did I say cheap second rate players ?

These guys are just starting their careers out and you have deemed them second rate already ?

They won't be spending big bucks on 27 years olds Richard - did you not learn that from the summer.

It's all about building a team for the long term future - no more big money spent on players in their late 20's.

[LFC1990]

When did I say cheap second rate players ?

These guys are just starting their careers out and you have deemed them second rate already ?

They won't be spending big bucks on 27 years olds Richard - did you not learn that from the summer.

It's all about building a team for the long term future - no more big money spent on players in their late 20's.

But Yilmaz at 27 ooooooookay.

and yeah they are second rate if there not 1st rate and not 3rd rate then they slip into second rate and try to work into 1st rate.

You havent answered my Messi question either.

[Roger Red Hat]

we haven't got a clue which way it'll go in jan and thats the only fact. not benny or me or anyone of us. it's all just rumours...      hence why we're in here.

[Benny The Noon]

Yilmaz is not going to be big money compared to Soldaldo.

Messi isn't going to be available for £20mil is he Richard so the question is totally irrelevant. I rather deal in reality than hypothetical *****.

So what rate do you place Allen ?

Second rate players ?! They are young players learning in their career.

Some people need to adjust their targets and expectations just a little.

[Benny The Noon]

we haven't got a clue which way it'll go in jan and thats the only fact. not benny or me or anyone of us. it's all just rumours...      hence why we're in here.

Well Henry has already told us which way we will go.

Read his letter

[LFC1990]

So Joe Allen is the Finished article?

The Messi question is to prove that if a player was worth the money they would pay it.

[Benny The Noon]

So Joe Allen is the Finished article?

The Messi question is to prove that if a player was worth the money they would pay it.

Is Allen a second rate player ? It's a simple question

The owners have stated that they won't pay over the odds and they won't pay more than the club can sustain

No more big fees no more big wages for players in their late 20's. There is little point going on about hypothetical situations involving Messi.

Read Henry's letter.

[LFC1990]

Yeah Allen is second rate but also young. We only have  5 players maybe 6 In the side that can boast being a 1st rate player. Johnson Skrtle Agger Gerrard Suarez and maybe Pepe.

You keep going on like a broken record but If messi was available for 20 million would Henry and co let him go by