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[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

whoever comes in isnt going to turn us around in five minutes, results will hopefully be better than last season but there`s a big difference between improving results and genuinely competing with the top teams.
martinez or whoever gets the job will be up against some of the biggest, richest and most powerful clubs in the world, those clubs arent managed by mugs either, alex ferguson like it or not will probably go down as the greatest manager ever to manage in the english game and mancini has now won the title in 2 of the 3 bluechip league`s in the world. chelsea, though managerless at the moment are the current european champions and they are bankrolled by a russian billionaire who spent £50m on one player just 18 months ago. wenger is certainly no mug either, he has won 3 league titles, f.a cups, domestic doubles, got to a champions league final and put together a side that went a whole season unbeaten.
competing with those talented managers would be hard enough if it was a level playing field but at the moment it`s not a level playing field, those clubs have more resources than us and they have CL footy to attract the star name players. they have enjoyed stability behind the scene`s in recent years as well where as chaos has ruled at anfield.
martinez has got a colossal job on his hands, he is going to have to replicate what rafa benitez did here and have us punching way above our weight.
realistically if he gets us in the top 4 next year he will have done an amazing job.

[devaney]

I actually think that with a bit of luck and the return of Lucas and maybe a couple of additions that we could be a serious thread. Carroll is actually beginning to look as if one day he may be worth £35m. Raheem Sterling will play a more prominent role and be a serious threat to Downing's position. Henderson is improving. Gerrard is still regaining fitness but the Euros could cause him problems if he is not managed properly. He obviously has a decent relationship with Hodgson or he would not have been given the captaincy. Kelly will continue to improve. Flanaghan and Robinson will provide decent defensive options. Coates will also continue to improve. Aquilani and Cole also have an outside chance of making a contribution but I'm not holding my breath.

Tactics, attitude, belief and determination are going to be key factors. One thing is for sure FSG will not allow a repeat of this seasons league performance.

I'm actually quite excited about the future and it is time for us all to get behind the team and the new manager. THE WHINGING AND MOANING NEEDS TO STOP!

[Benny The Noon]

Martinez did break Wigans Transfer record - just saying

Get a clue lad!

[devaney]

And so the Hodgson style pi.ss taking starts before he even gets the job and a ball hasn't been kicked. Somethings just never change!

[Thommo's perm]

Martinez has just sent a message:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFNWkUZf ... re=related

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I actually think that with a bit of luck and the return of Lucas and maybe a couple of additions that we could be a serious thread. Carroll is actually beginning to look as if one day he may be worth £35m. Raheem Sterling will play a more prominent role and be a serious threat to Downing's position. Henderson is improving. Gerrard is still regaining fitness but the Euros could cause him problems if he is not managed properly. He obviously has a decent relationship with Hodgson or he would not have been given the captaincy. Kelly will continue to improve. Flanaghan and Robinson will provide decent defensive options. Coates will also continue to improve. Aquilani and Cole also have an outside chance of making a contribution but I'm not holding my breath.

Tactics, attitude, belief and determination are going to be key factors. One thing is for sure FSG will not allow a repeat of this seasons league performance.

I'm actually quite excited about the future and it is time for us all to get behind the team and the new manager. THE WHINGING AND MOANING NEEDS TO STOP!

fact is though mate that over the last 3 seasons we have finished 6th, 7th and 8th under 3 different managers and they were no mugs either, between them benitez, hodgson and dalglish have won 4 english league titles, 2 spanish league titles, 7 swedish league titles, 1 danish league title, 1 european cup, 1 uefa cup, 1 european super cup, 3 f.a cups, 1 league cup, 1 italian cup, 2 swedish cups, 1 danish cup, the world club championship and even managed 3 national sides including at a world cup.
the 3 of them were experienced managers who between them have won everything in the game bar a world cup.
if it can go wrong for those 3 it can certainly go wrong for someone else.
our rivals arent standing still either, arsenal have already signed podolski to play upfront with van persie and hazard will be lining up for one of our rivals next season too. it`s on the back of todays paper that chelsea reckon that guardiola will be their manager come the start of the season, even though guardiola said a couple of days ago he wants to take a year out in the states chelsea have apparently spoke to him over the last day or so and although guardiola still told them he needs time off chelsea apparently reckon his resolve is begining to `crack`.
martinez needs at least 2 years here minimum to do anything, he is trying to put a project together and they take time, i think we should be trying to play down expectations a bit instead of cranking the pressure up on a young inexperienced manager.

[tubby]

Whelan has come out and said he thinks they have made him an offer.. but this was an interesting quote.

"I think Roberto has put his cards on the table and said 'If I'm going to Liverpool I want the following'," said the Wigan owner. Roberto has to run the football club from top to bottom. Without that I don't think he would go."

I seem to recall a few on here saying Rafa would never get a look in as he wants full control. Well if FSG are really as against that as some think then I doubt Martinez will take the job.

[Thommo's perm]

Whelan has come out and said he thinks they have made him an offer.. but this was an interesting quote.

"I think Roberto has put his cards on the table and said 'If I'm going to Liverpool I want the following'," said the Wigan owner. Roberto has to run the football club from top to bottom. Without that I don't think he would go."

I seem to recall a few on here saying Rafa would never get a look in as he wants full control. Well if FSG are really as against that as some think then I doubt Martinez will take the job.

Every manager wants full control

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Whelan has come out and said he thinks they have made him an offer.. but this was an interesting quote.

"I think Roberto has put his cards on the table and said 'If I'm going to Liverpool I want the following'," said the Wigan owner. Roberto has to run the football club from top to bottom. Without that I don't think he would go."

I seem to recall a few on here saying Rafa would never get a look in as he wants full control. Well if FSG are really as against that as some think then I doubt Martinez will take the job.

i think it was mark wright saying in the echo that martinez`s first instinct will be to walk away if he cant have full control but at the back of his mind he`ll be thinking will such a big club come knocking again? by all accounts the job is there if he wants it, it takes some doing turning it down when you know the contract is on the table waiting for you to sign.
wright signed martinez at chester when martinez was still playing and he said he was great, he said it was like having another manager in the dressing room and martinez was always encouraging players and cheering them up if they were down in the dumps or low on confidence. on the pitch he was organising everything and telling players where they should be positionally.
he left chester to take the swansea managers job on and wright said he was gutted to see him leave.
wright is convinced that martinez is destined for greatness as a manager and thought that when martinez was still a player, he said he is just brilliant with people and one of lifes great communicators.
the idea of him signing is starting to grow on me a bit.

[parchpea]

Whelan has come out and said he thinks they have made him an offer.. but this was an interesting quote.

"I think Roberto has put his cards on the table and said 'If I'm going to Liverpool I want the following'," said the Wigan owner. Roberto has to run the football club from top to bottom. Without that I don't think he would go."

I seem to recall a few on here saying Rafa would never get a look in as he wants full control. Well if FSG are really as against that as some think then I doubt Martinez will take the job.

Every manager wants full control

End of the day we are offering a job and it has a description.

If Martinez or anyone else doesnt like it then dont take it but its
not for them to dictate to us how we run our football club simple
as that.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Whelan has come out and said he thinks they have made him an offer.. but this was an interesting quote.

"I think Roberto has put his cards on the table and said 'If I'm going to Liverpool I want the following'," said the Wigan owner. Roberto has to run the football club from top to bottom. Without that I don't think he would go."

I seem to recall a few on here saying Rafa would never get a look in as he wants full control. Well if FSG are really as against that as some think then I doubt Martinez will take the job.

Every manager wants full control

End of the day we are offering a job and it has a description.

If Martinez or anyone else doesnt like it then dont take it but its
not for them to dictate to us how we run our football club simple
as that.

true, but i think martinez has got more of a clue how a football club should be run than a team of owners who only started watching the game 3 years ago and a bunch of london based management consultants.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

the echo is saying we never actually offered martinez the job, more talks are scheduled for next week.
they are also saying the owners are still impressed by rodgers and klopp, although both have turned the job down it`s thought that they may change their mind if they know they are on a shortlist.
interesting.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

Think Whelan wants to get himself trending on twitter or something. You just cant get him out of the news.

Martinez allowed to speak to Liverpool
Martinez on holiday
Martinez going to miami to meet FSG
Martinez  has till Thursday to make a decision
Martinez  has been offered the job

... All courtesy of Dave Whelan of the Dave Whelan (DW) Stadium.

Loves his name in the press that man.

(Not one word from FSG or LFC)

You're not wrong there mate 

Sir Alex will QUIT Manchester United next season... according to Wigan chairman Whelan

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2150080/Sir-Alex-Ferguson-quit-Manchester-United-2013-says-Dave-Whelan.html

Sir Alex Ferguson's old friend Dave Whelan has claimed that the Manchester United boss will quit at the end of next season.
Ferguson predicted that he would stay on for another three years when he turned 70 on New Year’s Eve, but said health will be the deciding factor.
Last week Ferguson was taken to hospital by ambulance after suffering a nosebleed that would not stop before he was due to speak at a dinner in Glasgow, and Whelan believes the Scot will retire in 12 months.
The Wigan chairman said: ‘After next season, Sir Alex will call it a day.

Seems old Taggart is having health problems ,I was hoping for Alzheimers and he would start walking the motorways , but beggars cant be choosers. 
Anyway I'm sure now that his decline in health is now a top story in the Fail courtesy of Whelan,it will cheer him up no end .     

Fucking Whelan though ,what an old lady 

[alwayslfc]

I think AVB was FSG's first choice but he didn't want to come. Liverpool approached Rodgers and Martinez and Rodgers also didn't want the job and now it looks like Martinez will be appointed, I am 90% certain he will be our next manager. I hope he can be successful, I remember in season 10/11 when KD was in charge and Wigan came to Anfield for a league game, they totally outclassed Liverpool. Every one of their player was hungry for the ball and their wingers played well. Meireles scored our goal and they scored a dubious goal that looked offside.

Martinez has my respect but he hasn't managed a top side yet and we're taking a big, big,big risk appointing him and it is not a risk worth taking. We appointed mid table manager in Hodgson 2 years ago and we ended up as a mid table club. Now we're appointing a relegation battling club manager, and we will end up as a ...................... club. I'm sure even an 8 year old can correctly fill in the blank. But no, not FSG, how thick can they be. This is just pure shocking decision making.

[LFC2007]

I think AVB was FSG's first choice but he didn't want to come. Liverpool approached Rodgers and Martinez and Rodgers also didn't want the job and now it looks like Martinez will be appointed, I am 90% certain he will be our next manager. I hope he can be successful, I remember in season 10/11 when KD was in charge and Wigan came to Anfield for a league game, they totally outclassed Liverpool. Every one of their player was hungry for the ball and their wingers played well. Meireles scored our goal and they scored a dubious goal that looked offside.

Martinez has my respect but he hasn't managed a top side yet and we're taking a big, big,big risk appointing him and it is not a risk worth taking. We appointed mid table manager in Hodgson 2 years ago and we ended up as a mid table club. Now we're appointing a relegation battling club manager, and we will end up as a ...................... club. I'm sure even an 8 year old can correctly fill in the blank. But no, not FSG, how thick can they be. This is just pure shocking decision making.

Muppet.