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Postby red till i die!! » Sat May 26, 2012 12:06 am

i just wish they will announce it and get it over and be done with it tbh,its doing my nut in no end.
they seem determined that he's the man they want so it looks like he's going to get it and imo they never were interested in anyone else.
were going to have to get behind him as he'l need all the support he can get and i hope he does well and proves to be more than capable.
might be a bit premature with this but i believe its only a matter of sorting the formalities out.
welcome to liverpool lad.
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat May 26, 2012 12:12 am

Pre - season will be a big indicator to the type of football Martinez will attempt to have the reds playing .
I just hope he sticks to his principles and plays the method of fluid football that used to be synonymous
with Liverpool over the years ,that way if he loses games he will be afforded some patience because the
Kop will endear to his practice of playing possession football ..
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Postby red till i die!! » Sat May 26, 2012 12:14 am

Dalglish » Sat May 26, 2012 12:04 am wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 25, 2012 11:52 pm wrote:i just hope he doesnt crack under the pressure, he will be under more pressure than he has ever been in his life.
the pressure starts early as well, at the top of the division other teams apply pressure by just winning, look what happened last season, we drew our first game at home to sunderland and were 2 points behind city and united after 1 game, and that was the closest we got to them all season.
it doesnt matter how much of the season has gone, it might only be 3 weeks in but once the top teams get about 5 points ahead then all of a sudden you cant afford to lose your next game, if the top teams get 8 points ahead then it`s unlikely that you`ll pull that back, infact odds are the gap will grow and grow.
add to that the pressure from discontented fans and a type of media scrutiny that he`s never known before (any loss at anfield makes the headlines on the backpages of the sunday newspapers, at wigan if he lost it probably merited a few paragraphs about 3 pages in, if he loses a game here there`ll be headlines like `martinez out of his depth` and `not good enough roberto` etc splashed everywhere)
1 or 2 losses and suddenly he starts getting discussed on radio phone in`s up and down the country and the sky tv mob start analysing and disecting his every mistake, ex players who are big noises in the media start to give their opinion.
plus liverpool is a big city with passionate and opinionated supporters, football is a religion here, it`s the 3rd biggest city in england as well so as a work environment it`s a lot different from a little rugby town like wigan.




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its the truth though but in fairness to him handling the media is one of his strong points,granted its going to be completely different types of questions but i think he'l do ok in that department.
here's hoping he goes on to be a club legend :D
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Postby red till i die!! » Sat May 26, 2012 12:17 am

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat May 26, 2012 12:12 am wrote:Pre - season will be a big indicator to the type of football Martinez will attempt to have the reds playing .
I just hope he sticks to his principles and plays the method of fluid football that used to be synonymous
with Liverpool over the years ,that way if he loses games he will be afforded some patience because the
Kop will endear to his practice of playing possession football ..


agreed
cant wait till preseason starts and we get up and running but more importantly id like to see how we get on in the transfer market and the types of players he buys and positions he fills.
absolutely hate this time of year but at least we have the euro's then its back to business :buttrock
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat May 26, 2012 12:41 am

Roberto Martinez is a born leader says ex-Liverpool FC captain Mark Wright

IT didn’t take long for Mark Wright to realise he had signed someone with a bright future. In the summer of 2006 the former Liverpool defender was manager of Chester City when he secured the services of Roberto Martinez on a free transfer.
The Spanish midfielder, who had been released by Swansea City, made a big impact on and off the pitch at the then League Two club and was appointed captain.

Martinez was in the twilight of his playing career but Wright could see a manager in the making.

Six years on Wright isn’t surprised that the Wigan boss is a leading candidate to be appointed as Kenny Dalglish’s successor at Anfield.

“Roberto was an instant hit when we signed him at Chester,” Wright said.

“He was on the list that came around and my assistant Graham Barrow knew him from his days at Wigan.

“As soon as I met him it was clear that he was a leader and I made him my captain. He was just great to have around – always talking with the players and helping to motivate them.

“He’s one of the nicest people I’ve ever come across and he knows his football inside out.

“I knew he would be management material. He always wanted to play in the correct manner and he knows how to handle people.”

Martinez moved on from Chester after just seven months after being offered the chance to return to Swansea City to take over as manager.

He left with Wright’s blessing and the ex-Reds centre-back has watched with interest as his stock has risen.

Martinez led Swansea to the League One title in 2008 and the following season they narrowly missed out on the play-offs in the Championship.

In the summer of 2009 he made the switch to Wigan and over the past three years has successfully kept the Latics in the top flight on a shoestring budget while playing an attractive brand of football.

Martinez oversaw a remarkable end to this season as they won seven of their final nine league games, including victories over Liverpool, Manchester United and Arsenal.

“Roberto didn’t want to leave Chester but he was given a great opportunity to go and manage Swansea,” Wright said.

“He’s an honourable man and he was reluctant to go – that’s how sincere he is.

“He did exceptionally well at Swansea. He got them promoted and put all the pieces in place for them to continue moving forward after he left.

“Since going to Wigan he’s done a great job on limited resources. At a club like Wigan it’s not easy – you are constantly trying to put out fires.

“He could have left last season after they stayed up by the skin of their teeth but he stayed loyal to them.

“They had a tough start to this season but the way they finished it was incredible. The way they beat all the big boys has enhanced his reputation and put him in the frame for bigger jobs.”

Some fans have voiced fears that Liverpool would represent too big a step up for the 38-year-old.

However, Wright, who made 210 appearances for the club between 1991 and 1997, has brushed aside concerns that Martinez would struggle to handle the extra pressure and expectation levels.

“I’ve got no doubt that given time Roberto would succeed at Anfield,” he said.

“He would do things the right way. It would be the type of football fans want to see.

“He’s not defensively minded, he would sign players with pace and flair. That’s the way he’s been brought up.

“What I can assure you is that Roberto is a strong character. He knows how to conduct himself in front of the media.

“Of course he hasn’t been at a big club like Liverpool before but I don’t think that would faze him.

“I don’t know what way the owners are going to go. But if they decide to appoint an experienced director of football with a younger manager working under him then I could understand that.

“They are obviously speaking to other managers as well. Brendan Rodgers must be in with a shout after what he’s done at Swansea and Paul Lambert at Norwich is another up and coming young manager.

“But I can’t speak highly enough of Roberto. If they decide he’s the right man then fantastic. I certainly think he has got the credentials and the character.”

Martinez held talks with principal owner John W Henry in Miami on Thursday but Fenway Sports Group are set to interview other candidates next week.

Wright believes Liverpool are right to take their time to ensure they get the best man for the job.

“This is a huge decision and you can’t rush it,” he added.

“I’m sure the owners will assess all the options and make the right call.

“My sister lives in Boston and while I’ve been over there visiting I’ve been to see the Red Sox play at Fenway Park.

“The way that’s run is very slick and professional. These guys are out to turn Liverpool around.

“Sacking Kenny must have been a very tough decision for them to make.

“He’s Mr Liverpool and every current and ex-Liverpool player holds Kenny in the highest esteem.

“He has done so much for the club and will always be a Liverpool legend.

“But that decision was made and now the club has to move on. This will be the start of a new era.”

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-fc/liverpool-fc-news/2012/05/26/roberto-martinez-is-a-born-leader-says-ex-liverpool-fc-captain-mark-wright-100252-31046728/


I've met Wrighty a few times in the past ,and its extremely rare he gives references in such glowing terms as these.
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Postby Boxscarf » Sat May 26, 2012 1:11 am

Aquilani, Kuyt and Maxi may well endure better seasons next season if Martinez is appointed manager.
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Postby fivecups » Sat May 26, 2012 2:02 am

Good to hear RBG. He does seem to be universally liked and respected by the people he's worked with. What the f*ck do we really know, we're making opinions on whispers and hearsay.
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Postby laza » Sat May 26, 2012 4:50 am

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat May 26, 2012 5:05 am wrote:So it looks like being (as if it was ever likely it could be anyone else) Martinez . I'm personally  gutted
Rafa has been overlooked ,and I bet there's a few tears shed in the Benitez household in the next few
days ,but if its Martinez then so be it, we may even grow to adore the bug eyed Spaniard . :D

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Pretty much sums it up for me though I'm warming to Martinez  far more then i was few days back after reading a few of articles

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Postby tubby » Sat May 26, 2012 8:32 am

I think coming from Wigan to Liverpool is a big step and it's a bit of a gamble tbh but if he plays attractive football that gets us playing to our best then he will be fine. If it's him then I hope they get it over and done with soon so he can start looking at players. When is he due back from holiday btw?
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Postby Scottbot » Sat May 26, 2012 8:34 am

Well i've expressed my reservations about Martinez and there's not much point repeating them over and over again because it now seems VERY likely he will be the next manager of LFC so maybe it's time to start looking at the positives.

1 - He's young.  The idea of having such a young manager at LFC is strange because our managers (with the exception of the King in his first stint) have always been older and more experienced. It might make a nice change for the players to have someone with such enthusiasm and youth on their side.

2 - He's Spanish. Nationality shouldn't really matter but the fact he is Spanish can only be a positive thing when it comes to working with the likes of Pep Segura and Rodolfo Burrell. We've had a Spanish flavour at the club for a number of years now and I kinda like it, particularly with so many good players coming out of that country. He is also very personable and articulate and you get the impression he will be good at getting his ideas across to the players on the training pitch.

3 - He has a full understanding of English football. Gets bandied about by some as the be all and end all but as we know, it isn't a guarantee for success. However, there have been a good few European managers with great pedigrees who have struggled when thrown into the ultra-competitive (and ultimately less technical) type of football that gets played in England. At least Martinex won't get taken by surprise at the football played agains the likes of...........ah Wigan (haha) on a cold Sunday aftenoon.

4 - He has done well at Wigan with very little money. I know a few of us (myself included) have compared his record at Wigan to that of Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce who both achieved superior league finishes (plus Bruce even managed a Wembley appearance in the League Cup) however, Martinez has had to do so with a massively trimmed wage bill and looking at his transfer dealings he's barely had a penny to spend. On his time at Swansea, it does seem fashionable to give him a lot of the credit for the good work that Rodgers is doing now and I must admit I don't think that's right but he did have a good stint there and they seem to have thought very highly of him.

5 - He wants to play the right way. Was very interesting to read the article about his technical and tactical approach to the game that was posted up earlier in this thread. I love talking X and O's and he certainly seems to be very bright and progressive in this department. If you can take a guy like that and then give him better players and some funds to go out and bring in more then perhaps you can go somewhere. He has come across as a bit indecisive when it came to the set-up and style of play at Wigan last season but you have to admit that when he got it right down the stretch they pulled off some fantastic results. They beat us, They beat the mancs and they absolutely spanked the barcodes who were on a fantastic run at the time.

6. He talented. I don't think anyone can deny that he is a young talented manager. If he left Wigan and then went to a club like Villa, turned them around and got them back in Europe then I think perhaps everyone would be more positive and accepting. Because then we would have seen an arc of progress whereby the next obvious step is a club like ourselves (at least in our current rut). Well perhaps (just maybe) he doesn't need that next career stop-off at Villa? Perhaps he will come in and get these lads playing with more conviction and attacking verve. You have to feel like we will need to get off to a good start because the boo birds will be circling but maybe he will turn out to be a star.
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Postby tubby » Sat May 26, 2012 8:41 am

Id go along with that Scott. I just hope he gets decent backing from the owners. The team needs some gutting so I am expecting lots of transfer activity this summer.
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Postby Bermenstein » Sat May 26, 2012 9:57 am

Must be the shortest Shortlist of all time. 1 candidate if all is believed.

Hopefully those other manager candidates still in contract at clubs, and that dont have Mouthy Chairmen or owners (ie Dave Whealan),are still being assessed and interviewed incognito to the press. One hopes.
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Postby metalhead » Sat May 26, 2012 9:59 am

Scottbot » Sat May 26, 2012 7:34 am wrote:Well i've expressed my reservations about Martinez and there's not much point repeating them over and over again because it now seems VERY likely he will be the next manager of LFC so maybe it's time to start looking at the positives.

1 - He's young.  The idea of having such a young manager at LFC is strange because our managers (with the exception of the King in his first stint) have always been older and more experienced. It might make a nice change for the players to have someone with such enthusiasm and youth on their side.

2 - He's Spanish. Nationality shouldn't really matter but the fact he is Spanish can only be a positive thing when it comes to working with the likes of Pep Segura and Rodolfo Burrell. We've had a Spanish flavour at the club for a number of years now and I kinda like it, particularly with so many good players coming out of that country. He is also very personable and articulate and you get the impression he will be good at getting his ideas across to the players on the training pitch.

3 - He has a full understanding of English football. Gets bandied about by some as the be all and end all but as we know, it isn't a guarantee for success. However, there have been a good few European managers with great pedigrees who have struggled when thrown into the ultra-competitive (and ultimately less technical) type of football that gets played in England. At least Martinex won't get taken by surprise at the football played agains the likes of...........ah Wigan (haha) on a cold Sunday aftenoon.

4 - He has done well at Wigan with very little money. I know a few of us (myself included) have compared his record at Wigan to that of Paul Jewell and Steve Bruce who both achieved superior league finishes (plus Bruce even managed a Wembley appearance in the League Cup) however, Martinez has had to do so with a massively trimmed wage bill and looking at his transfer dealings he's barely had a penny to spend. On his time at Swansea, it does seem fashionable to give him a lot of the credit for the good work that Rodgers is doing now and I must admit I don't think that's right but he did have a good stint there and they seem to have thought very highly of him.

5 - He wants to play the right way. Was very interesting to read the article about his technical and tactical approach to the game that was posted up earlier in this thread. I love talking X and O's and he certainly seems to be very bright and progressive in this department. If you can take a guy like that and then give him better players and some funds to go out and bring in more then perhaps you can go somewhere. He has come across as a bit indecisive when it came to the set-up and style of play at Wigan last season but you have to admit that when he got it right down the stretch they pulled off some fantastic results. They beat us, They beat the mancs and they absolutely spanked the barcodes who were on a fantastic run at the time.

6. He talented. I don't think anyone can deny that he is a young talented manager. If he left Wigan and then went to a club like Villa, turned them around and got them back in Europe then I think perhaps everyone would be more positive and accepting. Because then we would have seen an arc of progress whereby the next obvious step is a club like ourselves (at least in our current rut). Well perhaps (just maybe) he doesn't need that next career stop-off at Villa? Perhaps he will come in and get these lads playing with more conviction and attacking verve. You have to feel like we will need to get off to a good start because the boo birds will be circling but maybe he will turn out to be a star.


Good post ScottBot, that's why I won't judge him straight away
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat May 26, 2012 10:11 am

Martinez did break Wigans Transfer record - just saying :laugh:
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Postby stew_the_red » Sat May 26, 2012 10:26 am

Benny The Noon » Sat May 26, 2012 9:11 am wrote:Martinez did break Wigans Transfer record - just saying :laugh:


Get a clue lad!
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