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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri May 18, 2012 7:10 pm

The only thing left at Anfield will be Degens fucking sleeping bag  :help
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Postby brentd4 » Fri May 18, 2012 7:12 pm

ralf rangnick - shalke

domingos - braga

unai emery - valencia

walter mazarri - napoli

rudi garcia - lille


hers a few options id cosider, ther all doing wel at the moment and all stil youngish.

another point its interestin in the section of europes top 25 managers in a different liverpool forum,  avb is at number 1
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Postby SouthCoastShankly » Fri May 18, 2012 7:17 pm

lakes10 » Fri May 18, 2012 3:28 pm wrote:seeing posts on twitter saying that Pep Guardiola has agreed to talk to liverpool.?

was sure he said he was taking a year off?


Lakes I do wish you would at least follow reputable sources instead of quoting some numbnuts wind up tweet as if it was fact. Seriously
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:20 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:they're doing it right in my book, by drawing up a list of managers they want and interviewing them one by one.

The LFC job is still one of the best in world football, and it's clear that we're not short of candidates. Let the board do their stuff, and we'll have a new gaffer within 2 weeks.


by the sounds of it (although it changes by the minute) rafa isnt being considered for the job so how are they doing it right?
are they only interested in managers near the bottom of the league who havent won a thing?
this whole situation has turned into a farce, granted they werent helped by whelan the wigan chairman but even so they`ve made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing, it`s a pr disaster like the suarez thing but they havent got kenny or ian cotton to blame now.
we`ve had one paper reporting that they spoke to AVB while kenny was still in the job, going behind the back of someone who went to more liverpool fans funerals than this lot have been to games, not only that kennys number two steve clarke gets pictured at a baseball game with the owners while kenny is flying home after being offered a resignation package, is that how you show a bit of respect and dignity to a legend? then the club twitters fans for their opinion on who should be our next manager, then every approach they make to a potential candidate the world knows about it minutes later, then the club basically calls anyone who goes to a cup game this season a soft $h.ite etc etc
let the board do their stuff? f**king hell
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Postby Rafa D » Fri May 18, 2012 7:20 pm

Really deep down, we all really know who the first choice should be, for sure?
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Postby Raoul » Fri May 18, 2012 7:27 pm

Sitting here staring at the screen, trying to make head and tail about how I feel and what I think about this whole mess. I was concerned about a number of things but I felt Kenny had to be given more time, not because he was the king, but because a) he was building something and I had no doubt we would improve (and if FSG really wanted to replace him, another year of building the younger players would provide a much better foundation for the next guy) and b) I couldn't see who we'd replace him with.

They've got to get this right. Someone like Martinez might grow into the role, with support from people who can help him deal with all the pressure and challenges, but those structures, those people just aren't there right now. No idea why people are talking about Pep - he is not joining us or anyone, I don't see Rafa getting the job or fitting the structure they apparently want to develop, Capello is too old for FSG... We are running out of experienced candidates.

Whatever happens, they are building a whole new team, and that has got to have time to work, they can't afford to continue to chop and change, the next guy simply has to be given time. Let's hope he gets it mostly right, from the beginning, because what will they do if he doesn't?

And as I've been staring at the screen, I realised I've never watched Metalhead's banana from start to finish before. Quite impressive really.
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Postby tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 7:30 pm

Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.
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Postby kartiek » Fri May 18, 2012 7:31 pm

heimdall » Fri May 18, 2012 3:49 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Fri May 18, 2012 3:19 pm wrote:
Sean » Fri May 18, 2012 4:08 pm wrote:What has John Henry heard that the rest of us aren't aware of that makes him think Martinez is the guy who can get us back into the champions league.


the fact that they are even considering him proves that they know fook all.
he is a yes man that will fit into there new structure for a couple of years and try to build something in the process and then in a couple of years when we have a stadium and extra revenue then he will be replaced with someone else to finish the job.
they are only bothered about this club following the money to the cl and if league performances are the precedent that they have set then i cant see why they think this man is right for the job.


Sorry but on what basis are you claiming that Martinez is a yes man. I agree he is inexperienced and he isn't my no1 choice but I don't understand the need to slag him off. He's done a very good job at Wigan and have them playing very well, certiainly towards the end of the season.

Also why do you think FSG want a yes man, I'm not aware of any major arguments between FSG and kenny, although they would have been more than entitled to after the ***** up that was the Suarez affair.


Heimdall, Some people here have been acting like the world has ended, that FSG are the most idiotic and conniving lot of owners. FFS, and then you can always mention the liverpool way.

Well, you people should know that you've forsaken the liverpool way that you talk about by being churlish little brats who berate any manager that is linked to Liverpool in a flash. You would have berated Bill Shankly no less, after all what had he done before Liverpool? You literally tortured the heck out of a Liverpool manager in Roy Hodgson, giving him no chance from the beginning and you call it the Liverpool way? If you yourself are so disrespectful to not care about the Liverpool way why do you expect some people who have no idea of the game to honor the same?

Oh, and one more thing, I don't know nothing about the Liverpool way other than what I've learnt from you guys (I've only been a Liverpool fan for the past 7-8 years now) , and honestly, just looking at the behavior of the fans of the past 2 years, if that's what you call the Liverpool way, to foolishly berate every single person out there without properly considering how far we've fallen, to ridicule our own manager as soon as a month he's in the job, then it's really sad, and it's nothing like the way what you always speak about.

The world is run by money, and we're not sacrificing any principles by interviewing a list of managers to get an idea of who best can take the club forward. I think it may have been harsh to let Kenny go and Ian Ayre's needs to shut up, but seriously, what do you expect? The owners spent over 100 million to only have the team go backwards. Fact of the matter is that even most of us felt that Dalglish's buys were bad, and 100 million is not a joke.

It's ridiculous how some people here behave like they're living in some tribal village and everything new is evil and dangerous. If you need to be cautious, which you should be, at least keep some perspective!
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:31 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 6:20 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:they're doing it right in my book, by drawing up a list of managers they want and interviewing them one by one.

The LFC job is still one of the best in world football, and it's clear that we're not short of candidates. Let the board do their stuff, and we'll have a new gaffer within 2 weeks.


by the sounds of it (although it changes by the minute) rafa isnt being considered for the job so how are they doing it right?
are they only interested in managers near the bottom of the league who havent won a thing?
this whole situation has turned into a farce, granted they werent helped by whelan the wigan chairman but even so they`ve made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing, it`s a pr disaster like the suarez thing but they havent got kenny or ian cotton to blame now.
we`ve had one paper reporting that they spoke to AVB while kenny was still in the job, going behind the back of someone who went to more liverpool fans funerals than this lot have been to games, not only that kennys number two steve clarke gets pictured at a baseball game with the owners while kenny is flying home after being offered a resignation package, is that how you show a bit of respect and dignity to a legend? then the club twitters fans for their opinion on who should be our next manager, then every approach they make to a potential candidate the world knows about it minutes later, then the club basically calls anyone who goes to a cup game this season a soft $*i*e etc etc
let the board do their stuff? f**king hell


1) Bringing Rafa back would be a disaster, he doesn't fit with FSG's model and would never be given the power he had before and he would hate that
2) Show me the proof the board approached AVB while Kenny was still in charge
3) They HAVE TO request permission to speak to managers who are under contract. They can't stop chairman of other clubs talking to the press, can they?

As for their comments on the cups, it’s a discussion about money...and money is now important because Liverpool is (for once) being run as a business. People moan about the lack of progress in the stadium, but the board are trying to get LFC earning money again so we can afford it. They are trying to make this club a success both on and off the field.

I trust FSG to do the right thing...they saved our club from being killed by the previous clowns and they have the club's best interests at heart.They are going to speak to the best people available to get the man who can work with both them and our great club.
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Postby kartiek » Fri May 18, 2012 7:35 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 6:31 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 6:20 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:they're doing it right in my book, by drawing up a list of managers they want and interviewing them one by one.

The LFC job is still one of the best in world football, and it's clear that we're not short of candidates. Let the board do their stuff, and we'll have a new gaffer within 2 weeks.


by the sounds of it (although it changes by the minute) rafa isnt being considered for the job so how are they doing it right?
are they only interested in managers near the bottom of the league who havent won a thing?
this whole situation has turned into a farce, granted they werent helped by whelan the wigan chairman but even so they`ve made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing, it`s a pr disaster like the suarez thing but they havent got kenny or ian cotton to blame now.
we`ve had one paper reporting that they spoke to AVB while kenny was still in the job, going behind the back of someone who went to more liverpool fans funerals than this lot have been to games, not only that kennys number two steve clarke gets pictured at a baseball game with the owners while kenny is flying home after being offered a resignation package, is that how you show a bit of respect and dignity to a legend? then the club twitters fans for their opinion on who should be our next manager, then every approach they make to a potential candidate the world knows about it minutes later, then the club basically calls anyone who goes to a cup game this season a soft $*i*e etc etc
let the board do their stuff? f**king hell


1) Bringing Rafa back would be a disaster, he doesn't fit with FSG's model and would never be given the power he had before and he would hate that
2) Show me the proof the board approached AVB while Kenny was still in charge
3) They HAVE TO request permission to speak to managers who are under contract. They can't stop chairman of other clubs talking to the press, can they?

As for their comments on the cups, it’s a discussion about money...and money is now important because Liverpool is (for once) being run as a business. People moan about the lack of progress in the stadium, but the board are trying to get LFC earning money again so we can afford it. They are trying to make this club a success both on and off the field.

I trust FSG to do the right thing...they saved our club from being killed by the previous clowns and they have the club's best interests at heart.They are going to speak to the best people available to get the man who can work with both them and our great club.


Thank you 7_Kewell for bringing some sanity to this forum.
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Postby 7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 7:44 pm

the rest of Ayre's interview talking about winning cups...

"'If you want to be successful, you have got to keep investing. People don't want to hear that football is a business. They don't.

'They want to see us put lots of money into the team and win lots of trophies and games. But you have got to have both. If you don't do well in the league and don't get into the Champions League, you are writing cheques from your own pocket. That is not a sustainable way going forward."
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Postby Boocity » Fri May 18, 2012 7:50 pm

tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


Spot on I don't want Rafa back either, give me an example of a manager thats succeeded 2nd time round
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Postby NANNY RED » Fri May 18, 2012 7:56 pm

Right cards on the table time for me , ive thought an thought about it and my first choice is the Man from Caldy , i want him back should never have been ousted in the first place , so Yeh

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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:58 pm

7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 6:31 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 6:20 pm wrote:
7_Kewell » Fri May 18, 2012 5:59 pm wrote:they're doing it right in my book, by drawing up a list of managers they want and interviewing them one by one.

The LFC job is still one of the best in world football, and it's clear that we're not short of candidates. Let the board do their stuff, and we'll have a new gaffer within 2 weeks.


by the sounds of it (although it changes by the minute) rafa isnt being considered for the job so how are they doing it right?
are they only interested in managers near the bottom of the league who havent won a thing?
this whole situation has turned into a farce, granted they werent helped by whelan the wigan chairman but even so they`ve made a pigs breakfast of the whole thing, it`s a pr disaster like the suarez thing but they havent got kenny or ian cotton to blame now.
we`ve had one paper reporting that they spoke to AVB while kenny was still in the job, going behind the back of someone who went to more liverpool fans funerals than this lot have been to games, not only that kennys number two steve clarke gets pictured at a baseball game with the owners while kenny is flying home after being offered a resignation package, is that how you show a bit of respect and dignity to a legend? then the club twitters fans for their opinion on who should be our next manager, then every approach they make to a potential candidate the world knows about it minutes later, then the club basically calls anyone who goes to a cup game this season a soft $*i*e etc etc
let the board do their stuff? f**king hell


1) Bringing Rafa back would be a disaster, he doesn't fit with FSG's model and would never be given the power he had before and he would hate that
2) Show me the proof the board approached AVB while Kenny was still in charge
3) They HAVE TO request permission to speak to managers who are under contract. They can't stop chairman of other clubs talking to the press, can they?

As for their comments on the cups, it’s a discussion about money...and money is now important because Liverpool is (for once) being run as a business. People moan about the lack of progress in the stadium, but the board are trying to get LFC earning money again so we can afford it. They are trying to make this club a success both on and off the field.

I trust FSG to do the right thing...they saved our club from being killed by the previous clowns and they have the club's best interests at heart.They are going to speak to the best people available to get the man who can work with both them and our great club.


these owners have their bank accounts best interests at heart not the clubs, ian ayre made that pretty clear this morning. we have won 3 uefa cups (a british record), 7 f.a cups and 8 league cups (an english record) and he`s basically said this morning they are meaningless.
when martin broughton and purslow brought hodgson in no one knew who the other candidates interviewed were, people guessed at deschamps etc but they wouldnt say out of respect to the other clubs. this lot a scrambling around in the dark. i`ve never known another managerial appointment to be the public spectacle this farce is, ever.
comoli was appointed by a baseball stats guru ffs, they have been in the club for 18 months and if anything we`ve gone backwards, everyone they hired they`ve fired and now they are starting again?
and rafa would be a disaster? even with H&G on his back and the likes of pusrlow putting the boot into him, even after the club making a profit 3 transfer windows on the bounce, even with the press on his case the worst he finished was 6th.
the disaster will be appointing someone like martinez, these lot are impressed by him because he`s the flavour of the month and good on the telly, f**king terry wogan is good on the telly why dont they go and give him the job.
martinez is just another mike walker, george burley, alan curbishley, sam allardyce, phil brown flavour of the month.
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Postby ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri May 18, 2012 7:59 pm

Boocity » Fri May 18, 2012 6:50 pm wrote:
tonyeh » Fri May 18, 2012 6:30 pm wrote:Can't believe the amount of people that want Benitez back.

Do we really want to go back to playing not to lose, rather than playing to win?
To go back to robotic subs?
To go back to bizarre and ridiculous decisions that have people scratching their heads?
To go back to bad man management that pisses off key players and makes them want to leave?

No thanks.

Things may be looking bad at the moment, but I hope that the owners don't jump to any more rash conclusions.


Spot on I don't want Rafa back either, give me an example of a manager thats succeeded 2nd time round


yeah lets get the wigan manager in
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