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Postby red till i die!! » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:54 pm

maguskwt » Mon Dec 31, 2012 3:38 pm wrote:I feel like Sturridge would be better suited for us... he is younger, he is more involved in built up play and possibly more assists in him... Ba gives me the feeling he is the type of player who will shine for 1-2 seasons and then will fade drastically...


the chav fans always said that sturridge is selfish and doesnt have the greatest attitude so hopefully he will have left that behind him.
agree on ba but for 2 seasons he would be perfect for us,thats exactly what we need is a striker that can hold his own with suarez while borini and sturridge can find their feet. 7mil isnt a lot of money for a goalscorer thats proven.
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Postby damjan193 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:18 pm

Am I the only one who thinks that we don't need a striker that desperately? We may need cover for Suarez but that's it. Ba or Sturridge, both would be good enough to be there if needed IMO, considering we still have Borrini.
What we really need are wingers, and I don't mean Downings or Assaidis or 18 year old Sterlings or Inces. For the style of play to work that Rodgers wants to implement, quality wingers are essential. I'm talking about Hazzards, Matas and Silvas. Now I know that there's no chance in hell that we'll get that kind of wingers but we can at least go after players that have similar style of play. Few examples come to mind, players from the Bundesliga: Marco Reus, Mario Gotze, Andrea Schurle or even Xherdan Shaqiri. Probably don't have a chance for any of those either but you get my point. I'm sure our scouts can find this kind of players that would join us if they target them.
I understand that Sturridge, if brought here, will be used as a winger but that just isn't going to work. He's doesn't have the thing that we need in wingers. He might work out as a striker but he'll never be the winger that we need. Haven't we learned something from putting strikers on our wings already (i.e. Kuyt)? Unless Brendan is willing to change his formation and tactics (for example play with two strikers) I think buying the likes of Sturridge won't work.
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Postby dundreamin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:29 am

WTF do we need wingers for when there's nobody in the box? Damjam?????
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Postby Raoul » Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:16 pm

damjan193 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 5:18 pm wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that we don't need a striker that desperately?

Yes.

I understand the point you are making, but we do need another striker.

If rumours are to be believed we'll soon have 5 - Suarez, Sturridge, Gameiro, Borini and Carroll (when Big Sam cancels the loan).
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:58 pm

damjan193 » Mon Dec 31, 2012 6:18 pm wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that we don't need a striker that desperately?.


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your probably the only one
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Postby damjan193 » Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:47 pm

dundreamin » Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:29 am wrote:WTF do we need wingers for when there's nobody in the box? Damjam?????

Well if you think that wingers are only there to cross the ball than you're wrong. This system needs wingers that can dribble past defenders with pace, get as much closer to goal as possible and either shoot or pass the ball to the striker for a tap in. We do not have such players. Downing is a classical winger that is there to cross the ball and find a target man. The guy can't beat defenders. Sterling, although he fits the module, is still too young, and we're not willing to play Assaidi. And that's about it, that's all the wingers that we have and none of them are good enough.
The reason Scott Sinclair did so well in Swansea with Rodgers was because he's the perfect winger for that system. He's fast, he's got pace and he can beat defenders in order to get closer to goal. That's exactly the kind of players we should be looking for. In fact, I wouldn't mind if we go after Sinclair himself in this transfer window or the next.
Bottom line is, wingers that match our system with their style of play is what we need the most. I mean, just look at the stats. Suarez has scored 13 goals this season, only van Persi has scored more. How many goals have our wingers combined scored this season? How many assist do they have? Well I can remember both Downing and Sterling scoring only one each. So obviously our problems with scoring aren't coming from our strikers, but from elsewhere. If you guys think that just by trowing strikers in (even though they might be out of position) we're going to start scoring more goals then you are very wrong. I don't mind buying a striker as a back up for Suarez, but I think that we should first address more urgent matters.
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Postby ethanr » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:17 pm

I get where you're coming from.  Wide players who are extremely attacking, not just crossers of the ball.  Suarez could be a very good wide forward, and I assume he will be with Sturridge coming in, but wide players who are able to get past people on the wing, get down the byline and create something are some of the most dangerous players.  I love a player that can get in on the byline like that and look to simply roll a pass across the middle.
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Postby C-R » Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:35 pm

A lot of i.t.k.'s on twitter saying sturridge is at the club tonight to complete deal in the morning, same people are suggesting blackpool have accepted a third bid from us for Tom Ince
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Postby bunglemark2 » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:27 am

Sturridge, FFS!!!
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Postby 7_Kewell » Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:54 am


good move in my view.  He'll get goals and he's young.  He can also play anywhere up top (striker or flanks) which will give us options.
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Postby Ola Mr Benitez » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:00 am

I reckon Sturridge is a really good buy, although maybe a little expensive - but that always happens when you buy in January!!
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Postby parchpea » Wed Jan 02, 2013 11:53 am

Rumour we are trying get shut of that duckegg Sahin to save £3m between now
and end of season.

The lad hasnt contributed anything at the football club so makes pefect sense
to me.
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Postby Boocity » Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:20 pm

parchpea » Wed Jan 02, 2013 10:53 am wrote:Rumour we are trying get shut of that duckegg Sahin to save £3m between now
and end of season.

The lad hasnt contributed anything at the football club so makes pefect sense
to me.


Can't say we have given him a chance and he is one of our highest scoring midfielders
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Postby mart » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:09 pm

7_Kewell » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:54 am wrote:

good move in my view.  He'll get goals and he's young.  He can also play anywhere up top (striker or flanks) which will give us options.


Sturridge doesnt want to play on the flanks, but thats where he is likely to end up for us. I bet he starts whining soon after joining us.
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Postby NorfolkRed » Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:34 pm

i see us playing a very fluid front three with the players not fixed with left, right and centre but rotating around all three. They would all be capable and would stop defences settling.
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