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by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:43 pm

The Raven » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:25 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:11 pm wrote:huntelaar isnt coming (according to the echo anyway and they are usually spot on)
i agree that side looks good but rodgers wants a different kind of front line, he wants quick, mobile players who are interchangable.
i think our frontline will look like this after january -

sterling/walcott suarez sturridge/suso

All good apart from swap walcott for luis

Walcott given the time will be a killer striker

there`s no way walcott could lead the line imo, playing with your back to goal all game is a hell of a lot different than drifting in from the wide area`s.
luis himself struggles with that side of the game and he often gets barged to the floor by big CB`s who go through him to win the ball, and suarez is a lot more aggressive and tenacious than walcott who`s quite a laid back character.
i can see walcott playing wide in a front 3 but i couldnt see him being the central striker directly up against the john terry`s, vidic`s, shawcross`s and huth`s of this world.

by **bunglemark2** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:50 pm

Walcott...given time....
How many years has he graced the PL with his underachieving at this stage?
If Rodgers thinks he's an answer, there's something seriously amiss.
I can't honestly see WHO in the PL we could afford and who would make a difference. I would hope we have a scout or two looking at the Bundesliga, of further afield, purely on the basis of what we can afford.

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:51 pm

red till i die!! » Fri Nov 09, 2012 5:14 pm wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:23 pm wrote:
red till i die!! » Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:58 am wrote:seen as it is a rumour thread .
the mirror had us linked with that pierce guy from reading and ali al habsi
pease god no

to be fair to him al habsi does look a decent keeper (he makes some miraculous saves) but being liverpool`s keeper is a lot different than being a goalie for wigan.
every mistake at liverpool is highlighted and some players find it hard to deal with the pressure. the likes of david james and brad friedel looked great before they arrived here but then struggled at anfield.
after they left anfield their form picked up again.
a lot of it is about mentality
i think we do need a keeper though, reina may well come good again but we need a top class back up to push him all the way, besides reina`s form has been sketchy for he best part of 2 seasons now and it may not just be a dip in form.

al habsi isnt a bad stopper but overall isnt top class material.we have taken far too many players in from lower prem clubs and its slowly turning us into one of them. if we do need better quality competition for pepe then we should be looking at better than al habsi.
its a difficult thing for keepers to have to step in and perform when they are short of match time in the 1st team and most likely its only a game or two per season.
vorn is a young talented giant between the sticks and can play with his feet so if we are going to splash out on a keeper then id rather we focussed on someone like him.
anyway jones and doni are good enough back up for pepe atm and our priorities surely lie with a striker.

i wouldnt say swansea were at a higher level than wigan, wigan have been in the prem near a decade now under jewell, bruce and martinez. this is only swansea`s second season in the top flight since the days of leighton james and bob latchford.
when you said we`ve been recruiting too many players from lower prem clubs i thought you were going to suggest we sign the bayern munich keeper or something not the swansea!

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 2:20 am

just watched an interview on sky sports news with rodgers and he was discussing luis and how he well he`s done replacing torres, when the reporter asked rodgers wether torres might be a possible transfer target in january rodgers smiled and went a bit coy.
gianfranco zola`s recent comments are interesting too (`he has good spirit, but he doesnt love chelsea, you can buy his service but you can never buy his love for liverpool`)
would anyone want him back?
i dont think he is the player he once was but i`d rather have torres than the likes of walcott, ba and hooper any day of the week.
to be fair to him when he left he was getting f**ked around by H&G with their false promises for about a year and when he saw benitez, alonso, arbeloa and masch leave the club his head must have been up his @rse.
he was nothing short of phenominal in a red shirt, i`m not even sure if i`ve seen better, torres had the lot, he was quick, he could go past a man, he could sniff out chances and he was excellent in the air.

by **maguskwt** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:19 am

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:20 am wrote:just watched an interview on sky sports news with rodgers and he was discussing luis and how he well he`s done replacing torres, when the reporter asked rodgers wether torres might be a possible transfer target in january rodgers smiled and went a bit coy.
gianfranco zola`s recent comments are interesting too (`he has good spirit, but he doesnt love chelsea, you can buy his service but you can never buy his love for liverpool`)
would anyone want him back?
i dont think he is the player he once was but i`d rather have torres than the likes of walcott, ba and hooper any day of the week.
to be fair to him when he left he was getting f**ked around by H&G with their false promises for about a year and when he saw benitez, alonso, arbeloa and masch leave the club his head must have been up his @rse.
he was nothing short of phenominal in a red shirt, i`m not even sure if i`ve seen better, torres had the lot, he was quick, he could go past a man, he could sniff out chances and he was excellent in the air.

If he does come back, he would need to score 20 goals in a season before I can forgive... love for liverpool bull Sh*t... he didn't need to join our direct rivals...

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:25 pm

maguskwt » Sat Nov 10, 2012 8:19 am wrote:
ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:20 am wrote:just watched an interview on sky sports news with rodgers and he was discussing luis and how he well he`s done replacing torres, when the reporter asked rodgers wether torres might be a possible transfer target in january rodgers smiled and went a bit coy.
gianfranco zola`s recent comments are interesting too (`he has good spirit, but he doesnt love chelsea, you can buy his service but you can never buy his love for liverpool`)
would anyone want him back?
i dont think he is the player he once was but i`d rather have torres than the likes of walcott, ba and hooper any day of the week.
to be fair to him when he left he was getting f**ked around by H&G with their false promises for about a year and when he saw benitez, alonso, arbeloa and masch leave the club his head must have been up his @rse.
he was nothing short of phenominal in a red shirt, i`m not even sure if i`ve seen better, torres had the lot, he was quick, he could go past a man, he could sniff out chances and he was excellent in the air.

If he does come back, he would need to score 20 goals in a season before I can forgive... love for liverpool bull Sh*t... he didn't need to join our direct rivals...

in normal circumstances i`d think the club would be better moving on myself, but considering the names we`ve been linked with (and the normally reliable echo saying huntelaar isnt a transfer target in january) i`d deffo have torres back.
at least he is an out and out goalscorer who can lead the line, he`s good in the air too so we`d have someone who can actually head a ball in the opposition box.
even a faded torres would still be a good signing for a team that could be looking at a record of 2 wins in 11 by tomorrow evening.
and if it was just a confidence crisis at chelsea and he came back here and found his form again....with an inform luis and torres up top anything would be possible, including the title.

reina
johnson skrtel agger enrique

lucas allen/sahin

gerrard/suso

sterling/walcott torres suarez

that looks a good side. potentially a great side.

by **tubby** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:30 pm

Would I have him back? Yes. Do I think it will happen? No. Why? Cos the owners would never stump up that sort of cash. Plus Chelsea would not let him go cheap anyway, especially to us.

Don't think we will get Walcott either. After shifting out Aquilani and other big wage wasters I can't see them forking out 90k+ for someone.

by **maguskwt** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:38 pm

and if it was just a confidence crisis at chelsea and he came back here and found his form again....with an inform luis and torres up top anything [/quote]
The possibilities of the partnership with luis is something I couldn't forgive. We have already bought suarez when he decided to jump ship. It would've been the most devastating partnership in the premier league. He didn't give Kenny the chance. Feck him he's worst than Owen. At least it was real madrid that owen went to...

by **ycsatbjywtbiastkamb** » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:50 pm

maguskwt » Sat Nov 10, 2012 12:38 pm wrote:and if it was just a confidence crisis at chelsea and he came back here and found his form again....with an inform luis and torres up top anything

The possibilities of the partnership with luis is something I couldn't forgive. We have already bought suarez when he decided to jump ship. It would've been the most devastating partnership in the premier league. He didn't give Kenny the chance. Feck him he's worst than Owen. At least it was real madrid that owen went to...[/quote]

yeah but at least we got huge, huge dough for torres, owen ran his contract down and we only got a fraction of the money we should have got.
torres arrived here from spain, he hit the ground running straight away (none of this `he needs time to adjust to the pace of the prem` malarky) he scored goals at such a rate he reached 50 goals quicker than anyone else in our 120 year history (not only quicker than the likes of rush, hunt, dalglish, keegan, aldridge, toshack, johnston, fowler and owen etc but quicker than even the old timers like hodgson and stubbins who played in an era when scorelines like 6-3 and 5-4 were common) and when he decided to move on we got a staggering amount of money for him.
if every signing this club made was as succesfull as the torres one then this club would be collecting trophys like they are going out of fashion and rolling in dough.

by **dundreamin** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 12:20 am

Owen was the worse EVER going to the mange and saying what a great club it was. Funny that because even whiskynose found the fooking dwarf out. I hate that p.rick. as for torres he can FOOK off too

by **The Raven** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:50 pm

Torres isnt coming back.

by **Greavesie** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:55 pm

The Raven » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:50 pm wrote:Torres isnt coming back.

Thanks for clearing that up

by **The Raven** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:25 pm

Greavesie » Sun Nov 11, 2012 3:55 pm wrote:
The Raven » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:50 pm wrote:Torres isnt coming back.

Thanks for clearing that up

No problem.

by **maguskwt** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:22 pm

I'm really looking forward to this jan transfer window... all things points to us spending and getting a striker in...

by **heimdall** » Mon Nov 12, 2012 2:58 pm

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:36 pm wrote:rather than bring a plodder like hooper in i`d rather we brought carroll back from loan and give the likes of morgan, ngoo and especially yesil a chance.
i dont see the logic of reducing the squad size and then filling it up again with mid table standard players.
i dont think hooper has enough weapons in his game to trouble premiership defences and i`m not convinced he`d be able to handle the pressure of leading the line at a huge club either, the liverpool shirt is one of the heaviest shirts in football.
personally i`d like to see sterling and suarez play either side of carroll, i dont think carroll would break any scoring records but i think suarez and sterling might do playing off him.
sterling looks to have more to his game than just being the type of winger who hugs the sidelines, despite being a winger he has got a strikers instinct and he likes to play on the last shoulder of defenders. with his acceleration i think he`d cause defences real problems latching on to carrolls knock downs and flick ons.
the great thing about carroll is that centre halves end up getting bogged down in arm wrestling contests with him, that not only means that he`s the one taking the kicks and bruises it also means that other players have got to track back or come across from fullback to pick up suarez and sterling, if they switch off for a second suarez or sterling are through on goal.
we briefly saw a front 3 of carroll, suarez and sterling in the last home game of last season when we destroyed chelsea at anfield and it looked really impressive, infact sterling nearly scored off a carroll flick on, and because all 3 players are so different it asks a lot of questions of defences.
i think having carroll in the centre would make it easier to rotate our strikers too, i think borini needs a carroll type beside him to make the most of his goal poaching instincts and i`m sure the likes of yesil would be happy to see the big geordie next to him as well.
hopefully rodgers realised in sundays derby that it makes sense to be a bit more pragmatic at times.

What is your obsession with Carroll, do you not remember how rubbish he was for us last season, barring 1 or 2 games right at the end?
Carroll, never was, isn't, and never will be a good striker for us. I do however hope he manages to score at least one goal for West Ham otherwise it will be much harder selling him in the summer.

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