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Yea I read that. He said Valencia is a huge club and he wanted to go there because of it.

What he really meant was. Valencia offered me more money.

Konoplyanka could be on his way to LFC thisi summer according to Dnipro executive

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ethanr » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:08 pm wrote:Yea I read that. He said Valencia is a huge club and he wanted to go there because of it.

What he really meant was. Valencia offered me more money.

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Regardless of all the speculation and general conjecture alluding to our haplessness in two consecutive transfer windows ,the fact remains we never
got the player we had stalked for nigh on two months and Chelsea came in without any courting or foreplay and in less time than it takes to dredge
up all the diatribe that's been spoke about Fifa's financial fair play rules they walked away with their man leaving us just holding our dicks.

Posters can fucking dress it up however they like ,but in the cold light of day it seems in terms of procuring players, reciting FFFP guidelines
renders the more malleable amongst us willing to accept our club being universally ridiculed at yet another window closing without strengthening a
team that is laughably threadbare.....

RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:11 pm wrote:Regardless of all the speculation and general conjecture alluding to our haplessness in two consecutive transfer windows ,the fact remains we never
got the player we had stalked for nigh on two months and Chelsea came in without any courting or foreplay and in less time than it takes to dredge
up all the diatribe that's been spoke about Fifa's financial fair play rules they walked away with their man leaving us just holding our dicks.

Posters can fucking dress it up however they like ,but in the cold light of day it seems in terms of procuring players, reciting FFFP guidelines
renders the more malleable amongst us willing to accept our club being universally ridiculed at yet another window closing without strengthening a
team that is laughably threadbare.....

True, you would think that pushing for a UCL place and looking at our squad they would have made sure we secured signings in the window, especially after all the stick they got after last seasons summer debacle. However, these guys haven't seemed tpo learn from past mistakes.

I do wonder though why a player would not look at the two squads and the number of players Chelsea have on loan and think, my best bet for getting first team football is with Liverpool but unfortunately these days they can't see beyond their wallets

I'm beginning to think the owners plan is to get into the CL, then splash the cash. If we spend heavily now we will get players who maybe aren't top CL quality, and will still cost us a lot of money. However, if we get into the CL we can attract those top class CL players for possibly the same money (or a little bit more).

Just a thought.

I think your nut far off the mark with that mate

Seems like a very sensible idea. Just hope you are right. First though we have the difficult task of getting a top four place.

ethanr » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:52 pm wrote:I'm beginning to think the owners plan is to get into the CL, then splash the cash. If we spend heavily now we will get players who maybe aren't top CL quality, and will still cost us a lot of money. However, if we get into the CL we can attract those top class CL players for possibly the same money (or a little bit more).

Just a thought.

totally agree, I said the very same a few days ago in another thread.

ethanr » Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:52 pm wrote:If we spend heavily now we will get players who maybe aren't top CL quality.

Heavily spending? The problem is we aren't actually spending any money at?     

20-25m NET spend in the last 12 months isn't good enough to expect us to obtain CL football.

I'm sorry this just sounds like an apologist's position to me.

ethanr » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:52 pm wrote:I'm beginning to think the owners plan is to get into the CL, then splash the cash. If we spend heavily now we will get players who maybe aren't top CL quality, and will still cost us a lot of money. However, if we get into the CL we can attract those top class CL players for possibly the same money (or a little bit more).

Just a thought.

Yes this is what I'm hoping for as well. I did a bit of math and we should have around 30-40 million plus player sales to spend. Not a lot but I'd be happy with that.

But not signing anyone in the winter window is a huge gamble. What happens if we don't qualify?

I personally think from the position we're in now if we don't get top 4 then something terrible has happened. I'm talking about losing Suarez, Sturridge possibly Gerrard all through injury. It's in our hands, we're in a great position and really shouldn't be losing any ground from now to the end of the season.

Been quiet for days on this particular topic as I'm on the fence and see both sides. Of course I am disappointed as we all are that we didn't spend and I am quite surprised at that to be honest, especially given the chance we have to secure CL football next season. To be honest, I really thought that we would flash the cash here.

I'm not really in favour of the owner slamming that goes on here as I think that they're good business people and have done a lot to turn around our fortunes. I can't imagine that they hung Brendan out to dry either as that generally isn't how business works. I would be more inclined to think that he was asked for his opinion on his chances of succeeding with or without further investment and he set whatever expectations he did. Seems like he didn't say he needed a massive overhaul to achieve that CL spot, but a little bit of extra wouldn't hurt.

What I wanted to get across though is that a lot is made of the amount of money that FSG are seen to be spending in the transfer market as the only marker of their commitment to the club. If we take time to consider that we were really only hours away from going into receivership, does anyone on here really know just how much money was pumped into the club and has continued to be pumped since they took over in the background? I might have missed some big article/post detailing all of that, but my assumption is that we don't and it's more than likely that we've gotten a lot more than we realise and we should take time to focus more on the positives than the negatives. Yes it's a little disappointing and surprising that we didn't spend again, but for us to not just be in the running for 4th, but actually in 4th place with 8 games to go and only a few points off the top and with the goal difference that we have, this is still the stuff that dreams were made of at the beginning of the season. Many many many many people were predicting an 8th place finish, which is still in the realms of possibility, but the implication was that we'd be as far off the pace as we were last season and the one before that. Clearly it's not the case and we have no choice but to trust what they're doing (it's working better than anything in the last 5 years) and hope for the best.

Fine post Homebooby. Conjecture is always going to be a problem with some fans that actually think they know the full story when they really haven't got a clue what goes on behind closed doors. Yes it was a frustrating time but no need for the ridiculously overly critical reactions as you so rightly say.

I think what posters seem to be conveniently omitting is that John Henry and FSG have still yet to reveal where exactly they obtained the necessary
funds to actually purchase the club.... We all know that John Henry and New England Sports Ventures paid off the original £200 million acquisition
debt left by Hicks and Gillette ,and yet they still felt impelled to borrow £37 million from RBS for development work on this (still waiting ) proposed
new stadia ...So although NESV fronted by Henry claimed that they had paid of the outstanding debt ,they still made that now infamous statement
"LFC is not servicing debt other than stadium debt.". 

It remains to be seen how they raised the 218 million required to buy the club ,and when asked to divulge such information they responded with this
statement "I have certain obligations to my partners regarding confidentiality of a private company and in not disclosing our financials publicly,"
he said. "LFC discloses its financials annually, so monies going in and going out are disclosed. But I'm not going to disclose NESV financials or
financing information."

To cut a rather long and drawn out saga short ,even after the insistence of certain Liverpool supporters club factions they steadfastly refuse to
answer some extremely pertinent questions ,and we still await any progress on  ground development ,although after the transfer debacle it seems
that carrot is being dangled again...I think after the fallout of the January window,supporters are more than justified questioning their commitment
to this club.