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Postby Ben Patrick » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:16 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:02 pm wrote:
supersub » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:01 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:50 pm wrote:Can't understand the constant need for people to keep having digs at players who have done so much for club.



I agree .. you would think supporters would want to keep our top scorer for the last 2 seasons


Can't remember anyone wanting Sturridge gone ???

Read his post again.
I dont believe Sturridge was our top scorer last season and he didnt play for us the one before  ???
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Postby Redman in wales » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:25 pm

regardless of the barca thing. Regardless of the notion that BR may have fallen out with pepe. Regarless of any other factors, there is always the fact that the club thought Mignolet was an improvement on Reina.

Now football (and football forums) is all about opinions. Some Liverpool supporters think Reina is currently better than Mignolet, and some think vice versa. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Reina is a top class goalkeeper, but he hasn't been in the best of form recently. It was obviously the clubs / BR's opinion that Mignolet was a better goalkeeper on current form. Then the knowledge that Reina would likely go to Barca next season (acknowleding the fact that Valdes said he was staying on this season) - the thinking could have been "well why wait? - If we think that Mignolet is currently better than Reina, why not do it now?"
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Postby Greavesie » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:28 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:02 pm wrote:
supersub » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:01 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:50 pm wrote:Can't understand the constant need for people to keep having digs at players who have done so much for club.



I agree .. you would think supporters would want to keep our top scorer for the last 2 seasons


Can't remember anyone wanting Sturridge gone ???


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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:32 pm

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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:33 pm

supersub » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:15 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:02 pm wrote:
supersub » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:01 pm wrote:

I agree .. you would think supporters would want to keep our top scorer for the last 2 seasons


Can't remember anyone wanting Sturridge gone ???



I thought you wanted Suarez to never play for us again


You are right - the player has shown nothing but disrespect towards the club and has damaged out name more that any player in its recent history. He invited media into his house to tell the world he wanted out of the club ASAP.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:34 pm

Greavesie » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:28 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:02 pm wrote:
supersub » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:01 pm wrote:

I agree .. you would think supporters would want to keep our top scorer for the last 2 seasons


Can't remember anyone wanting Sturridge gone ???


Woooosh!!

The two seasons bit was added after I quoted the post.
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Postby redno7 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:37 pm

ha ha clueless
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:37 pm

Ben Patrick » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:14 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:50 pm wrote:Put up a video in another thread to destroy the myth that Pepe doesn't save shots.

Two seasons ago only 2 GK's conceded less that Pepe and last season Pepe was behind a back four that struggled so whilst he did make some errors last season he was nowhere near as bad as what is suggested. As for the club acting to pre empt him wanting to leave - why didnt they do the same with Suarez who has stated all summer that he wants to leave.

What is it exactly that Pepe did ? Suggest that he would like to leave to Barce "IF" they bid - but they werent as soon as Valdes said he was staying yet the club still went ahead and got Mignolet. BR was buying a GK this summer regardless of what Pepe said.

Can't understand the constant need for people to keep having digs at players who have done so much for club.


I watched your little complilations and dont think you have expelled any 'myth'
I do actually like Reina and I am not slagging him off I am stating my opinion that he wasnt great the last couple of seasons.
Despite the videos you showed I dont remember one game I came away from where I thought to myself 'thank god for Pepe there, he's saved us points'
Mignolet has already done that twice and is clearly for me a better shot stopper.
I think we have upgraded definitely.


Your statement was - Pepe doesn't save many shots - the vid clip proved that it was a false statement from you.


I remember coming away from a game thinking - Pepe won us that trophy ( not just three points ).
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Postby redno7 » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:39 pm

but he's on about points, did you miss that bit?
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Postby Kenny Kan » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:40 pm

red till i die!! » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:25 pm wrote:
Kenny Kan » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:46 pm wrote:
.  if you want to think its because of his wage then belt away, mine is that the manager didnt rate him and wanted him gone so much that it was one of the first deals we did. 


I didn't say Rodgers bought Mignolet in to save money on Reina's wages.

my opinion is probably similar to yours added the fact Reina was showing his knickers to Barca year in year out, hardly a sign of commitment. Rodgers perhaps rated Mignolet better, if so how does that mean it's personal?  ???


i didnt say you did either, i said if you want to think that then go ahead. you did refer to his wage along with saving half that on given. i never referred to wages.
again though the showing his knickers to barca year in year out is hardly accurate. like a lot on here i spend a lot of time reading this forum and endless articles about the players and club and from memory there has only been one incident where his father was banging on and then pepe said he would not rule out a return to barca some day. hardly pimping himself out now was he.
what do you think sturridge is going to say when asked on whether he would like to return to chelsea someday ? that will happen soon seen as mourinho is allegedly disgusted he was allowed to leave and it will be fired at danny in his next interview or when we face them.
last year rodgers dropped reina after a small injury and he remained out of the side for a run of games despite his agent saying the player was fit and ready for selection, rodgers maintained he was still injured. he also said he was signing mignolet as competition which also turned out not to be true. reina never even got to join up with the squad this season and was told he could go on loan. it wasnt a position that needed to be urgently addressed either. these are my reasons for thinking it was personal between him and rodgers, maybe it was down to a clash of personalities or he just didnt like the influence he had in the dressing room but it wasnt for the reasons he stated.
ive said it before that if he just rated him better then thats fine but it does not coincide with the versions he tells us. any manager that has a limited budget like he has wouldnt replace a position just for the sake of it, and if he did it would be with the money raised from the sale.


I don't agree with your conspiracy. It seems to me you're adding 2 and 2 together and totalling 5 and getting ahead of yourself.

"Belt" away. Benny will enjoy this theory, another possible stick to beat the manager with and all that.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:45 pm

Redman in wales » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:25 pm wrote:regardless of the barca thing. Regardless of the notion that BR may have fallen out with pepe. Regarless of any other factors, there is always the fact that the club thought Mignolet was an improvement on Reina.

Now football (and football forums) is all about opinions. Some Liverpool supporters think Reina is currently better than Mignolet, and some think vice versa. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Reina is a top class goalkeeper, but he hasn't been in the best of form recently. It was obviously the clubs / BR's opinion that Mignolet was a better goalkeeper on current form. Then the knowledge that Reina would likely go to Barca next season (acknowleding the fact that Valdes said he was staying on this season) - the thinking could have been "well why wait? - If we think that Mignolet is currently better than Reina, why not do it now?"


And that's a far better way to say about things than to dismiss Pepe the way some are - its the same with Carra.

If Mignolet goes through a season doing well then we can say we improved on Pepe but its been two games ffs.

Pepe played for us for 7 years and because of his heroics in the net won us trophies , won us points , got us into CL finals and kept more clean sheets than any other keeper in our recent history. Whilst all the players around him were up and leaving his signed a new contract and stuck it out with us throughout the bad times. People trip over themselves to beg Suarez to stay despite him consistently demanding to leave throughout the summer and consistently dragging our name through the mud - the attitude towards the two players is remarkably different.
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:47 pm

Rumour going round that we are interested in Jermaine Defoe  ???  Ahhh.........
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Postby red till i die!! » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:51 pm

its an opinion mate thats all. you dont agree thats fine.
im fairly sure benny has his own opinions but you use someone elses to have a dig at him  :suspect:
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:53 pm

Kash_Mountain » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:47 pm wrote:Rumour going round that we are interested in Jermaine Defoe  ???  Ahhh.........


Why would we be interested in a central striker ???
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Postby Ben Patrick » Fri Aug 30, 2013 2:54 pm

Listen Benny, I am standing by what I have said.

If you think it's having a go sound, doesn't bother me.
Pepe was a loyal servent to us and our best recent keeper.

However I think for 2 seasons he wasnt good enough.
You can throw a video on that shows the odd save here and there - that was a full seasons worth by the way. But all keepers save some shots.
If you want to be pedantic and take my comment literally that's upto you.
The point I was making is that for a supposed top keeper he didnt save much.
I listed some examples in high profile games that cost us, you showed me a video of saves in games that were mostly in games that we were cruising at the time and they meant nothing to the result.
The goal Drogba scored in the FA cup final was a shocker, and just to confirm it was a penalty that went over the bar that won us the Carling cup.
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