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by **Rafa D** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:25 pm

Knee jerk reaction because they have had a good start.

They have the least chance of winning the Premiership out of any of the top 4.

by **dawson99** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:44 pm

wait and see who loses who in the african nations, that'll be arsenals biggest test this season...

but they are playing some cracking football

by **Judge** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:49 pm

john craig wrote:I think that's a fair assessment of woof

thanks john

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:32 pm

Rafa-Dodd wrote:Knee jerk reaction because they have had a good start.

They have the least chance of winning the Premiership out of any of the top 4.

Agreed.

In work so cant really reply properly, but will later.

by **JC_81** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:34 pm

Judge wrote:
john craig wrote:I think that's a fair assessment of woof

thanks john

You're getting as cryptic as Manhatten these days Judge :glare:

by **dawson99** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:41 pm

Ace Ventura wrote:
Rafa-Dodd wrote:Knee jerk reaction because they have had a good start.

They have the least chance of winning the Premiership out of any of the top 4.

Agreed.

In work so cant really reply properly, but will later.

disagree, they are out of the henry shadow now and playing better than last season by far. they are more a threat to us imo than chelsea who dont seem to have any kind of plan b.

by **Sabre** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:51 pm

That's a good discussion starter AB but I agree more John Craig's opinion.

It's my opinion though that this last years much has been talked about gaps between Chelsea, Manchester, and other clubs. IMHO right now there aren't big differences between the top 4 clubs and that's why Manchester won the league yesteryear putting the Chelsea gap to zero, and we too can attack the premiership this year IMO.

When the differences are not great, then factors like injuries, calmness in the dressroom (good for us what's happening in Chelsea) having a better forwards than yesteryear and even early K.Os become fundamental. Right now in September, I cannot rule out any of them. I respect other team's potential, but I don't think our squad hasn't much to envy about them.

by **AB's Red Army** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:58 pm

Re: to "it's only been five games"

Well, that didn't prevent the majority of our fans going on how long we can stay at the top and what not?

Of course I was saying the same thing last year when United made their start to the season. But as time moved on, certain Premiership sides were shitting themselves at the prospect of playing them. Due to the fact that they were ripping the opposition left and right in previous games.

John, you did raise a good point regarding their lack of overall experience and the lack of plan B.

As for who they will lose for the African Cup of Nations, only Eboue and Adebayor.

by **dawson99** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:02 pm

toure?
Song Billong?

ok, 2nd one is a bit of a joke but toure would be a massive miss as well?

by **account deleted by request** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:02 pm

When things get tight between the top clubs is when the charactor of the teams is more often than not the deciding factor. The mancs and Fergie have shown they still have charactor even without their "main man" Roy Keane. Chelsea have it (had it?), whether Liverpool or Arsenal have enough I'm not sure, but I think we will find out this season.

by **LFC2007** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:09 pm

I think it's conceivable that the threat will arise from more than one team. We haven't had a league contested between three or four teams until the death, for a long time.

Although some people have suggested Chelsea will improve now that Mourinho has gone, I think the opposite will happen. I don't know a lot about Avram Grant, but all of Mourinho's back room staff have left with the exception of Steve Clarke. Is their new manager going to alter their philosophy, will he be as meticulous as Mourinho in his planning, how will training change? Will their fitness regime change?
There are many questions that need answered. You only have to look at the state of FC Porto in the immediate post Mourinho period to understand why they may have a few problems. If Grant fails miserably short term, will Abramovich persevere with him until the end of the season?

I can certaily see the unbeaten record at Stamford Bridge that Mourinho held going at some stage this season.

The Mancs will always be hanging around at the top somewhere.

Arsenal's weaknesses have been exploited at times this season, they've had by no means a perfect start.

Lehmann in the Blackburn game, and the Fulham game for one.

Had Spurs not capitulated and taken their chances at 1-0 it could have been very different.

Unquestionably they have changed their style a little bit, they are getting it wide in the final third more so than previously and are providing crosses, predominantly low crosses to feet as well as cut backs into the box. Eduardo may just be the man to profit from this.

I still question whether or not they have enough strength through the middle and along the flanks. Lehmann is always a liability, despite pulling of some quality saves at times.

I don't think they have great variance in their play.

by **AB's Red Army** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:10 pm

dawson99 wrote:toure?
Song Billong?

ok, 2nd one is a bit of a joke but toure would be a massive miss as well?

I forgot about Toure's nationality.

Yes he would be a loss, but they have Gallas and Senderos. Also Gilberto has played as a centerback and done very well whenever he's played there for them.

by **dawson99** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:11 pm

true, cheatski lose a few, as will mancs i think? or maybe not for them...we lose momo but thats it?

by **AB's Red Army** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:14 pm

dawson99 wrote:true, cheatski lose a few, as will mancs i think? or maybe not for them...we lose momo but thats it?

Yes Chelsea will lose more players than any other side in the top four [Portsmouth are ridiculously filled with African players, half of their XI will leave].

I don't think Man Utd have a single African player in their squad.

by **Judge** » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:21 pm

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