Now shevchenko joins chealsea! - How can we beat them?

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Postby dawson99 » Tue May 30, 2006 2:24 pm

elephant graveyard is starting to spring to mind now when i think of cheatski.
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Postby chelsea rule! » Tue May 30, 2006 7:32 pm

i think chelsea are just too good for us we have to admit defeat and get behind chelsea
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Postby dawson99 » Tue May 30, 2006 7:40 pm

lol..chelsea are the new galacticos.. a place for ageing footballers to cash in after playing the game so they can just be part of romans footy manager experiment. i think roberto carlos would be a genius buy, a real good point towards the future. and shevchenko is nowhere near his peak yet is he.

plus ballack, lets sign a player on 125k a week, then everyone else will want the same. who cares if it means that not all players will play, and that most would be causing a riot if they werent on 125k a week to basically put there feet up.

also, signing peter kenyon is an excellant move, what a ncie guy he is

ps i was being sarcastic (in the words of homer j simpson)
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Postby The Red Baron » Tue May 30, 2006 7:41 pm

Pity you didnt do that not so long ago. Second division,sh!tty ground,going bust with Bates at the helm.Perhaps you are one of Chelseas new supporters, a Burberry wearing Chav who used to watch Fulham.
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Postby Fowler_ The _Prowler » Wed May 31, 2006 10:52 pm

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Postby kopite_1232002 » Wed May 31, 2006 10:58 pm

i tell u what its a :censored: disgrace that he has signed for them, and the fact they have been able to buy him, all they r doing is buying the leauge, how the :censored: r we ment to compete with a team who have a endless amount ov cash :censored: take ov the year iv u ask me
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Postby adamnbarrett » Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:57 am

Lando_Griffin wrote:I expect the SH*tski team to look like this next season:

                                Glue sniffer Cech

Ferrera                 Terrence   Carvery/Gallarse           Some prune

                          Dirty tw*tting Essien

Bollack                         Fat-Frank               Diving Dutch c*nt

              Dogsh*t/Crispy               Sheva

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Postby jonnymac1979 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:26 am

BY KUNILSON

now this guy poses a problem for our league ambition next season.....i've been a long-time admirer of shev and i think he is a major problem for us and the premiership if he gets going....barring an injury or not being able to adjust to the english game....he is going to make life hard for the following pack.
Now....i hear we are going to try and sign darren bent....whether it be him or villa or kuyt or bellamy or whoever, we NEED a top striker now more than ever.

The silver lining in the cloud is that if this shevchenko deal does not pay off, RA may bow out of the premiership cos chelsea have made significant losses this season and the last.....although i still believe that whoever chelsea buy will not bother us because we have got to make sure WE are good enough to lift the premiership....and that money can't buy you passion which is always gonna be our edge over chelsea...
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Postby 65-1149024436 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:01 pm

Bought the league again.....its a disgrace.

When are UEFA going to come out and stop this.

Abramovic at your club is like playing Football Manager and having all the cheats!
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Postby Reverend Yah » Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:44 pm

Didn't bother me when they signed Ballack(over-rated in my opinion)but Shevchenko's a different kettle of (Ukrainian) fish.
Mind you,couple of swift challenge's from Carra and Sam the Man in the Charity Shield ought to sort him out.
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Postby jonnymac1979 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:04 pm

I don't know if this is just me but I'm saying it anyway.

Am I the only one in thinking that Chelsea are going to have two to three top or world class players in every position (barring full backs probably), who will simply not play every game causing disharmony on the training ground and in the dressing room? 

And ultimately a lack of match fitness for the players concerned?  They have a squad of about thirty players who will be used to playing every game for their clubs, not being squad rotated like they will be next season and certainly not playing under a manager as egotistical as Mourinho.

I can't help but think that last season was not as satisfying for Chelsea as their first title triumph was.  Firstly, too much of a walk in the park, secondly, losing in the Champions League and FA Cup to their bitterest rivals lately in Barcelona and Liverpool; also count Lampards ordinary form compared to his superhuman consistency the year before.

Added to all this are the murmurings about Abramovich going over Mourinho's head over Chelsea's transfer policy (he wants Crespo to stay, Mourinho isn't convinced entirely, Ballack and Shevchenko were deals orchestrated by the Russian we're led to believe...).  Mourinho's comments in their title celebrations suggest that he nearly quit managing Chelsea twice last season.  Count the fact he complains that the media do not recognise his managing talents because of the monetary advantage Chelsea have when signing players over other clubs.  Stamford Bridge is not the Garden of Eden their playing staff and their fickle fans make out it is.

Having stated that, they will all in all probably win the Premier League next season.  Not a bold statement is it?  But I'm just saying that it will not be a stroll for Mourinho and Chelsea. 

Tally up Chelsea's midfielders who they simply cannot afford to leave out of their side.  They're stocked to the gills with them.  Makelele, Duff, Robben, Wright-Phillips, Cole, Lampard, Essien, Ballack and to a lesser point Geremi who usually fills in at right-back.  I would guess that Duff, Essien and Wright Phillips would be the scapegoats here.  That's a problem for them.  All top class players who will become unsettled perhaps.

It's going to be interesting to see who loses out between Makelele, Ballack and Lampard.  I think you can get at Chelsea if you get at Makelele, so if he's the scapegoat, they will be vulnerable.  Lampard is their talisman, a favourite of the manager and did they really need Ballack?  It's documented Manchester United were in for him so they could have signed him on that basis to stop a rival acquiring him.  It's not beneath Chelsea to do that I'm sure (Wright-Phillips springs to mind), Ballack seems like a bit of a mercenary "in-it-for-the-money" type according to bitter reports from Germany, but it could be a case of square pegs in round holes trying to accommodate their massive squad into eleven positions.

Shevchenko hasn't kicked a ball for them yet obviously.  Drogba won't like it certainly.  The signing raises the point seeing if Shevchenko can play up on his own (I'm more than certain for £45 million quid that he can), or are Chelsea suited to playing Drogba who is certainly effective for them.  This conundrum then takes you back to playing a flooded midfield of five (including Makelele sitting deep and Drogba up front leaving Shevchenko out) or a midfield of four with Crespo and Shevchenko in attack who as we already know are a proven partnership, (leaving Drogba and two from Essien, Makelele, Ballack or Lampard out - they can't all play as Chelsea rely on wingers too much).  Leaving more noses out of joint in midfield.

This strategy Chelsea are pursuing is Real Madrid's 'Galactico' experiment six years down the line.  I'm no expert but I don't see how you can motivate thirty multi-millionaires when they know in all likelihood they will be sitting on the bench for 30-35% of their teams games during a season.

What I'm saying is don't make the mistake of thinking Chelsea are unbeatable.  Surely Liverpool have proven that in the last two years?  Some people are giving up before a ball has been kicked.  We just happen to have a manager who coped with this kind of disadvantage successfully in Spain and walked away with two Primera Ligas.  Never give up.
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Postby stmichael » Thu Jun 01, 2006 2:04 pm

Good post Jonny. Agree pretty much with all of it. I know it sounds ludicrous to say, but as brilliant as Schevchenko is, I still think Drogba is more suited to the way Chelsea play.

I don't care what anyone says. Chelsea WILL NOT win the Champions League even with Schevchenko and Ballack because their manager isn't up to it tactically when it really matters.
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Postby 48-1119859832 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:47 pm

Andrew Johnson wrote:Bought the league again.....its a disgrace.

When are UEFA going to come out and stop this.

Abramovic at your club is like playing Football Manager and having all the cheats!

It's too late to do anything, they should of stopped Real Madrid years ago and they shouldn't of listened to ppl like Jimmy Hill for a start. The Premiership teams are just going to have to go through what the likes of Valencia, Betis, Sevilla & the rest of the Spanish clubs went through & have been going thru for years.
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Postby dawson99 » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:54 pm

we beat ac when shevers was there so we can bat cheatski too. let them buy loads of ageing players who wanna cushty sum of money and there will be not happy players there (SWP et all)
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Postby stmichael » Thu Jun 01, 2006 3:56 pm

to be honest i think we should keep dudek and just play him against the chavs next year. shevchenko will have nightmares. :D
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