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by **Dundalk** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:48 pm

The hello threads are in the introduction forum were they belong!!

Oh look surprise surprise this has been moved, how long did that last?

by **redsince2001** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:52 pm

do u want a prize for predicting that now dumtalk?

by **Dundalk** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:55 pm

redsince2001 wrote:do u want a prize for predicting that now dumtalk?

by **Reinas No.1 Fan** » Fri May 26, 2006 8:58 pm

who cares, there only continuing to buy the league anyway. 2nd place = champions now.

by **Bad Bob** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:10 pm

There is absolutely no point getting hysterical about who Chelsea buy this summer. They have the money and will spend it to bring in world class players, end of. We can't match their expenditures and thus will have to be more creative with our transfer budget. It may not seem fair but it's life...some have greater financial means then others and no amount of whinging will change that.

The question that A.B. raised is the valid one: does Chelsea's financial ability to assemble a new team of galacticos necessarily ensure success on the pitch? The recent history of Real Madrid is instructive: their galacticos policy paid off short term but they have declined since, with teams like Barca and Valencia outperforming them. This may well happen to Chelsea. Too many supersized egos in one locker room will take its toll after awhile. Bringing in Ballack WILL unsettle someone in midfield--be it, Lampard, Essien, Cole, Robben, Duff--and this will produce tension. Chelsea's already having problems with Drogba and Guddjonssen up front and Crespo's never been settled at the Bridge...how are they going to react if Shevchenko comes in?

Add to this the biggest ego of them all, Mourinho: he's already moaning that he doesn't get the recognition he deserves because everyone thinks its simply chequebook management. Well, what are people going to say if they win a third title after bringing in such world class players? Are they gonna give him any more credit? Hell no! And, will he take that graciously? Hell no. I'd go so far as to say that this will be Mourinho's last season because his ego cannot handle the competition at Chelsea.

So, on paper, sure they've strengthened but will it turn out that way? Look at it this way: they won the league comfortably this season for a second time, while perhaps underachieving (but not radically so) in cup competitions. To any sensible manager/general manager/owner, this year's performance was good enough to say, "we've got it virtually sorted and all the squad needs at this point is a minor tweak here or there." What do we see instead? Chelsea spending large on huge marquee names that will do nothing short of shake up the existing squad. Adding Ballack and Shevchenko to that squad is like buying a sledgehammer to push in a few thumbtacks...it's the wrong tool for the job and it may create more problems than it solves.

The way I see it, Chelsea are on course to implode sooner rather than later and our job is to make sure that when they do, we're right there to snatch the title away from them. Here's hope they sign a few more gallacticos before August! :cool:

by **redsince2001** » Fri May 26, 2006 9:20 pm

good post bad bob.......u raise some valid points - a positive way of looking at it.

by **Dundalk** » Sat May 27, 2006 2:11 am

Are we looking at another Leeds only on a much bigger scale?

by **The Manhattan Project** » Sat May 27, 2006 4:43 am

It's all artificial.

When sugar daddy gets bored and walks away they will be screwed.

They don't operate as a business. Let them enjoy their fake success for now.

It won't last forever.

by **RichardLFC1** » Sat May 27, 2006 9:39 am

We can beat them by buying a few talented players ourselves. I know a few people on this forum dont want him but in my opinion a fit owen isnt that far behind shevchenko. So why dont we have a go for him

by **stmichael** » Sat May 27, 2006 1:22 pm

Shevchenko is a far superior striker to Drogba, but I feel the overall benefit to the team will not be that great. Plenty of central defenders might prefer to play against Shevchenko than Drogba (don't laugh - I'm being serious!) And Ballack and Lampard in the same midfield might be like Stevie and Lampard for England. They could be in each other's way.

We should take note of what our rivals are doing, but even if they do sign Sheva I'm still filled with hope for the new season. They can only play eleven men, and they will have their own problems to sort out with systems, disgruntled players, ego etc.

by **bornagainred** » Sun May 28, 2006 12:31 pm

ac milan had shevchenko and we beat them bring chelsea on.cant wait for next season.

by **Alonso14** » Sun May 28, 2006 1:23 pm

Bad Bob wrote:Adding Ballack and Shevchenko to that squad is like buying a sledgehammer to push in a few thumbtacks...it's the wrong tool for the job and it may create more problems than it solves.

Something Rafa would say.

by **stmichael** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:04 pm

I think we should stop thinking about what Chelsea does and who they sign. We should concentrate to our own team. We only play againts Chelsea twice in the League season and we have proved, that we can beat them in the past. The main problem with Chelsea is a lot of teams are beaten against them before the game even starts.

When we play againts Spurs, West Ham, Charlton etc. it doesn't matter what players Chelsea have. Not many teams have better squad than we do.

I can see, that Chelsea will drop more and more points on next season mainly, because most of their hunger is already filled. Their most important goal for next season is to win CL. It's not easy to concentrate to away game againts Aston Villa when there's big CL match coming on following tuesday. And if you take any game lighty on premiership, you'll lose.

Chelsea's card house is already started to totter. Many of their fringe players want to leave because of lack of playing time. Many a young player will think twice before joins to Chelsea, because of SWP and other youngsters who have almost ruined their careers.

Chelsea are of course favourites to win the title but we have a good chance, if we get our summer signings right.

by **JC_81** » Sun May 28, 2006 4:25 pm

I'm also of the opinion we should forget about Chelsea and worry about ourselves, we have no control over what they do so what's the point worrying?

Of course Shevchenko and Ballack are class players, but I've said before I think Chelsea will struggle next season to match their points total this season no matter who they sign. Class players still need time to adapt to the premiership, the Ballack-Lampard midfield is questionable (too similar?) and Shevchenko is a completely different player to Drogba so they will need to adapt their style of play. Shevchenko won't hold the ball up as well as Drogba to bring the likes of Lampard into play, although I'm sure he'll bag more goals himself. But the overall effect on the team may be negative, who knows for sure?

I just feel that Chelsea have already hit their absolute peak in terms of consistency - their new signings are to freshen things up and maintain that consistency, I can't see them being more consistent. Those signings could be the difference between them succeeding in the CL next season, but in terms of the premiership I don't think they'll be any better over the whole season.

And lets not forget the unhappy squad players, the fact the CL is undoubtedly their focus next year and the fact that they are due an injury-hit season sooner or later. Makelele, Terry and Lampard have barely missed a game in 2 seasons - take away any of those 3 (the spine of the team) and they'll find it more difficult to function.

If someone keeps pace with them in the early stages of next season then it'll test them. They had it easy this year because the only team to keep pace over the first 6 games was Charlton FFS. If us, the scum or Arsenal had kept the pressure on them from the start they'd have dropped more points. The fact is they could be relaxed every time they took to the field this year which inevitably helped their performances. Look what happened when the scum made ground towards the end - they got worried and dropped more points.

by **Lando_Griffin** » Mon May 29, 2006 4:29 am

So Sh*tski buy Shevchenko and Ballack.

Woo f*cking hoo.

The introduction of B*llock means that a defensive player will be dropped, as everyone knows Moris values the bum-love he gets from Fat Frank too highly to drop his chubby-wubby.
This will make it easier for Stevie G to score the hat-trick he will get against the feckers at Anfield.

IF Moris decides that he should drop Cole/Robben, then this means they will lack width. More space for Gonzalez and the new fella to rip them to shreds.

The introduction of Shevchenko also means that Moris will have to play 2 strikers, as Sheva ain't one for leading the line in a battering-ram sense. This means less creativity in the side, so Sami can have a sh*t, a shave and a shampoo while JC kicks the :censored:

out the pair of them.

I expect the SH*tski team to look like this next season:

Glue sniffer Cech

Ferrera Terrence Carvery/Gallarse Some prune

Dirty tw*tting Essien

Bollack Fat-Frank Diving Dutch c*nt

Dogsh*t/Crispy Sheva

Doesn't scare me. THIS team would though, if Sh*tski were to do a swap:

Reina

Finnan JC Sami Aurelio

Sissoko
Alonso
Alves Gonzalez
Best player in the World

Villa.

Eat that, Moris!

(Now for it to come true.....

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