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[lakes10]

sorry i dont understand why we would sell him or put him on loan, the guy has just started to play well, the only thing i can think of is that he will not fit into the way we are going to play this season.

what is clear is that we will need to get a bloody good striker if he is not here or some will start saying its the managers fault for letting him go if we dont start with good results.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

I'd be very surprised to see Carroll go out on loan. If anything, Rodgers is putting out the feelers for possible bids.  Rumoured that AC Milan are interested and, as i said, anything over 20 million should be accepted.

I'll be very surprised if we get bids over 10-15 mill.

because clubs now know that he`s surplus to requirements here they can get him on the cheap.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

sorry i dont understand why we would sell him or put him on loan, the guy has just started to play well, the only thing i can think of is that he will not fit into the way we are going to play this season.

what is clear is that we will need to get a bloody good striker if he is not here or some will start saying its the managers fault for letting him go if we dont start with good results.

i dont think it`s the managers decision, i could be wrong like but i`d imagine rodgers would have at least liked the opportunity to have a look at him in training.
it`s not as if rodgers has only ever signed michael owen type strikers, that danny graham who he signed for swansea is more workhorse than rolls royce.

[damjan193]

I'd be very surprised to see Carroll go out on loan. If anything, Rodgers is putting out the feelers for possible bids.  Rumoured that AC Milan are interested and, as i said, anything over 20 million should be accepted.

I'll be very surprised if we get bids over 10-15 mill.

because clubs now know that he`s surplus to requirements here they can get him on the cheap.

Then Milan can go f*ck themselves. They already played us with Aquilani, we can't let them do it again. If they want Carroll on loan or buy him on cheep then f*ck em, we'll find use for Carroll.

[Roger Red Hat]

Rodgers isn't gonna keep Carroll if he doesn't see him fitting into his plans. Maybe Carroll doesn't want to play the type of footie rodgers is trying to implement?

Rodgers needs every player pulling in the same direction. If he doesn't think Carroll is up to it then so be it...   get shut.

[maguskwt]

sorry i dont understand why we would sell him or put him on loan, the guy has just started to play well, the only thing i can think of is that he will not fit into the way we are going to play this season.

what is clear is that we will need to get a bloody good striker if he is not here or some will start saying its the managers fault for letting him go if we dont start with good results.

Yeah... As if we're replacing a bloody good striker

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Then Milan can go f*ck themselves. They already played us with Aquilani, we can't let them do it again. If they want Carroll on loan or buy him on cheep then f*ck em, we'll find use for Carroll.

milan dont want him mate, according to the papers sources at spurs say we approached them tuesday night to see if they wanted to take carroll on loan (apparently they made an offer for him when we signed him from newcastle) but they said they are concentrating on signing adebayor on a permanent basis.
looks like we are hocking him around behind the scene`s.
if we dont want him then we should sell him, this idea of loaning him out is terrible, havent we learned our lesson from the aquilani debacle? are we going to pi$$ £35m up the wall liked we pi$$ed that £20m up the wall?
i just hope his direct replacement isnt this borini lad, he might be a good player down the line but i think it`s unrealistic to expect a 21 year old who hasnt even played 50 career games yet to fire us into the CL, i just hope that this signing thats going to knock us all off our feet is a big name centre forward.

[red till i die!!]

talk of borini,dempsey and allen dont fill me with excitement and im disapointed that that quality of player is being linked with us.since rafa left we got woy who brought utter ***** and then repeated by kenny and now this lad is apparently looking to do the same.

how much money do you think we have to spend though? we can't attract the very top bracket of player anymore anyway.

i'd be surprised if we've got more than £25m to spend this summer unless we sell first.

id say he has 30 odd mil to recruit and whatever we can get from player sales will be added.it isnt a fortune and not enough to compete with what our rivals appear to be spending but id reckon that situation is down to what was already spent last year and rodgers has been told to get better out of them.i do understand that we cant rival city but i think we can afford to buy decent players from the top end of the up and coming scale but i dont think we want them if it means we pay them decent wages.
allen borini and dempsey is imo no better that the last few signings we made and it could be a case of big fish syndrome all over again.
there are other more exciting prospects out there like affellay,ramirez and de jong who would prob cost similar to what we are linked with but will command a slightly higher wage but rodgers would rather stick with what he knows and trusts.
in the last 3 years the quality in this club has reduced drastically from managers to players and in another 2 we could be further in the mire and left with  a squad that equals swansea or norwich and fsg will have no other option to either sell us or start wheel barrowing the cash in.
spurs where in a similar situation to us several years ago but still managed to sign top players and advance the club to where they are now despite earning less revenue.they signed those players because they believed the club is heading in the right direction and would be able to sustain an assault on the cl which they have.
success in football is on the field and challenging for the top prizes and then the comercial end will flourish because you actually have a product to sell.we are trying to boost the comercial end first but who wants to sponsor a team for that kind of money when they are  half way down the table every year.

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

The media  once again starting to embellish the truth and the season hasnt even fucking started .

[red till i die!!]

The media  once again starting to embellish the truth and the season hasnt even fucking started .

rodgers himself is helping fuel it tbh by not coming out and putting an end to it.most of this stuff was reportedly said after the press conference to the written media and they have been having a field day with it since.
he has had plenty of chances since then to clarify it but hasnt done so.this leads me to believe that they dont want him and are indeed hawking him around to anyone that will take him.
if this drags on all they will do is alienate the player.

[mart]

I'd be very surprised to see Carroll go out on loan. If anything, Rodgers is putting out the feelers for possible bids.  Rumoured that AC Milan are interested and, as i said, anything over 20 million should be accepted.

I'll be very surprised if we get bids over 10-15 mill.

because clubs now know that he`s surplus to requirements here they can get him on the cheap.

Not to mention that he has only looked good in a few matches for us. West ham seems interested...

[red till i die!!]

I'd be very surprised to see Carroll go out on loan. If anything, Rodgers is putting out the feelers for possible bids.  Rumoured that AC Milan are interested and, as i said, anything over 20 million should be accepted.

I'll be very surprised if we get bids over 10-15 mill.

because clubs now know that he`s surplus to requirements here they can get him on the cheap.

Not to mention that he has only looked good in a few matches for us. West ham seems interested...[/quote]

west ham probably wont even pay the full amount of wages and then theres the chance that he will score more goals for them than his replacement does for us.
i cant see him going to another prem team where there is a chance of that happening + the fact that it echoes the aqualani situation all over again.
if this is moneyball stuff then i think someone needs a few lessons as to how its supposed to work

[red till i die!!]

sorry i dont understand why we would sell him or put him on loan, the guy has just started to play well, the only thing i can think of is that he will not fit into the way we are going to play this season.

what is clear is that we will need to get a bloody good striker if he is not here or some will start saying its the managers fault for letting him go if we dont start with good results.

i dont think it`s the managers decision, i could be wrong like but i`d imagine rodgers would have at least liked the opportunity to have a look at him in training.
it`s not as if rodgers has only ever signed michael owen type strikers, that danny graham who he signed for swansea is more workhorse than rolls royce.

i couldnt see why fsg would want to get rid of andy and especially on loan.they might consider a sale alright but it would have to be in the region of 20 with add ons.
if he leaves it because rodgers doesnt want him and if it is a loan then its because fsg dont want to sell.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

sorry i dont understand why we would sell him or put him on loan, the guy has just started to play well, the only thing i can think of is that he will not fit into the way we are going to play this season.

what is clear is that we will need to get a bloody good striker if he is not here or some will start saying its the managers fault for letting him go if we dont start with good results.

i dont think it`s the managers decision, i could be wrong like but i`d imagine rodgers would have at least liked the opportunity to have a look at him in training.
it`s not as if rodgers has only ever signed michael owen type strikers, that danny graham who he signed for swansea is more workhorse than rolls royce.

i couldnt see why fsg would want to get rid of andy and especially on loan.they might consider a sale alright but it would have to be in the region of 20 with add ons.
if he leaves it because rodgers doesnt want him and if it is a loan then its because fsg dont want to sell.

or maybe they think despite his improvement he`s not justifying his big wages, maybe they want another club to pay his wages for a season (or at least most of them) and see if his improvement continues at someone else`s expense?
we seem to be linked with a lot of young players, this borini lad is 21 and now today we are heavily linked with joe allen who just turned 22 in march, i cant see those two coming here on huge paypackets, maybe the owners are trying to get a grip of our wage bill.
that tony evans apparently said that there is a bit of `mood against dalglish`s signings` from people high up in the club,  who knows.

[Benny The Noon]

ESPN has now learnt that Carroll, 23, is determined to prove himself on Merseyside. A source said: "Andy is on holiday, and when he returns he is sure to seek clarification about his future with the new Liverpool manager.

"So there won't be anything for around ten days until that conversation takes place. It's all very well having discussions on the phone, but this requires a face to face.

"The feeling is that Andy won't leave Liverpool because he is proud to be a Liverpool player and wants to prove to the manager that he is capable of fitting into his system. It might be that the manager doesn't think Andy will fit in, but Andy wants to prove that he can.

"Andy knows he will get his chance, and when he does he wants to take it. So his immediate thoughts are to stay and prove himself capable of adapting to a new style of play. But it is early days, and we shall have to wait and see how it all unfolds."

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... rs?cc=5901