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[friendlyguy33]

The transfer window isn't shut just yet

That's reassuring to hear.

[Eagle]

Double post

[Eagle]

That's a big IF, i never believe the papers but 7-10 million is the figure i am reading.
I hope not.

By the way i wouldnt say for one minute he could play wide in a decent side personally.

Depends what you mean by decent and do you think the wide players we have now are more than decent? If I was trying to build a side to get ahead of Spurs and Arsenal and in the top 4 I wouldn’t want Dempsey in the first team but would be happy with him in the squad. I would certainly prefer him to Downing on left.

I wouldnt have him in a wide position at all.
He could JUST do a job as a back up striker for me, but wide ?

No chance, Downing is miles better despite last seasons struggles.

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.

[Ben Patrick]

That's a big IF, i never believe the papers but 7-10 million is the figure i am reading.
I hope not.

By the way i wouldnt say for one minute he could play wide in a decent side personally.

Depends what you mean by decent and do you think the wide players we have now are more than decent? If I was trying to build a side to get ahead of Spurs and Arsenal and in the top 4 I wouldn’t want Dempsey in the first team but would be happy with him in the squad. I would certainly prefer him to Downing on left.

I wouldnt have him in a wide position at all.
He could JUST do a job as a back up striker for me, but wide ?

No chance, Downing is miles better despite last seasons struggles.[/quote]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.[/quote]

He doesnt have pace and cant get in behind so for me no.
He would probably score more goals but wouldnt be anywhere near good enought to play that position that for me requires creativity.

Suarez and someone like Johnson (adam) in the wide positions with Carroll in the middle would be miles better than Suarez in the middle and Dempsey wide.

[friendlyguy33]

That's a big IF, i never believe the papers but 7-10 million is the figure i am reading.
I hope not.

By the way i wouldnt say for one minute he could play wide in a decent side personally.

Depends what you mean by decent and do you think the wide players we have now are more than decent? If I was trying to build a side to get ahead of Spurs and Arsenal and in the top 4 I wouldn’t want Dempsey in the first team but would be happy with him in the squad. I would certainly prefer him to Downing on left.

I wouldnt have him in a wide position at all.
He could JUST do a job as a back up striker for me, but wide ?

No chance, Downing is miles better despite last seasons struggles.[/quote]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.[/quote]

Yes but Chelsea have played that system with Drogba a target man as the striker to feed off that service in the 4-3-3. If  Carroll leaves or is on the bench all season with Suarez as that player I don't think it will work because as we saw last season when Carroll was left out and balls kept pinging into the box Suarez struggled to score many goals like that. Look at the Brighton FA Cup game probably the best performance in any game last season look at Suarez's goal Carroll and him in the box in a 4-4-2 system with midfielders joining them in the box. Carroll headed it back Suarez scored.

Suarez thrives with his back to goal outside of the box running at defenders linking with other players to create chances and score goals. We should be looking at improving the supply line around Suarez in midfield and the wide right position  so that the system with Suarez and Carroll can get better. Switching to 4-3-3 with just Suarez as the main striker will be more of the same from last year just like in the first sixty minutes against Chelsea at Wembley.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.

hardly a mouth watering prospect thought is it?
when rodgers was appointed and we had all this talk of tikki takka footy and all that malarky i didnt quite envisage us discussing the prospect of clint dempsey playing wide in a front 3.
i cant see suarez putting up with this palava for long.

[friendlyguy33]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.

hardly a mouth watering prospect thought is it?
when rodgers was appointed and we had all this talk of tikki takka footy and all that malarky i didnt quite envisage us discussing the prospect of clint dempsey playing wide in a front 3.
i cant see suarez putting up with this palava for long.

He should hurry up with his visit to see Del Bosque in Spain. Some fast talking from the Spaniard on tactics might just save our season before it's too late.

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.

hardly a mouth watering prospect thought is it?
when rodgers was appointed and we had all this talk of tikki takka footy and all that malarky i didnt quite envisage us discussing the prospect of clint dempsey playing wide in a front 3.
i cant see suarez putting up with this palava for long.

He should hurry up with his visit to see Del Bosque in Spain. Some fast talking from the Spaniard on tactics might just save our season before it's too late.

he`ll tell him to sell all our strikers, maybe thats what he`s doing.

[Eagle]

That's a big IF, i never believe the papers but 7-10 million is the figure i am reading.
I hope not.

By the way i wouldnt say for one minute he could play wide in a decent side personally.

Depends what you mean by decent and do you think the wide players we have now are more than decent? If I was trying to build a side to get ahead of Spurs and Arsenal and in the top 4 I wouldn’t want Dempsey in the first team but would be happy with him in the squad. I would certainly prefer him to Downing on left.

I wouldnt have him in a wide position at all.
He could JUST do a job as a back up striker for me, but wide ?

No chance, Downing is miles better despite last seasons struggles.

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.[/quote]

He doesnt have pace and cant get in behind so for me no.
He would probably score more goals but wouldnt be anywhere near good enought to play that position that for me requires creativity.

Suarez and someone like Johnson (adam) in the wide positions with Carroll in the middle would be miles better than Suarez in the middle and Dempsey wide.[/quote]



Dempsey isn’t a speedster but he also isn’t slow. Maxi is neither quick nor particularly creative as an individual but is an excellent player linking up with the striker from wide areas, much like Dempsey. I would say Dempsey is about creative as Downing too be honest.

And I certainly don’t think Suarez should be playing up front. He should either be behind a striker or a wide forward in a 4-3-3.

[Eagle]

Downing is probably the better option in a 4-4-2 but Dempsey would be far better in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 where the wide players are expected to play between the lines and get in goal scoring positions in the box while the full backs provide width.

hardly a mouth watering prospect thought is it?
when rodgers was appointed and we had all this talk of tikki takka footy and all that malarky i didnt quite envisage us discussing the prospect of clint dempsey playing wide in a front 3.
i cant see suarez putting up with this palava for long.

As it’s based solely on media speculation I would take it with a pinch of salt. Nothing to get worked up about.

[friendlyguy33]

I remember Graham Taylor putting a beanpole called Ian Ormondroyd on the left wing in season 89-90 for Villa.

I can't see Carroll fulfilling this role.

[Ben Patrick]

That's what i said about Suarez

Carroll as the front man with Suarez and someone like Adam Johnson out with also.
For me in no way is Dempsey as clever or a tidy link player like Maxi.

[Eagle]

That's what i said about Suarez

Carroll as the front man with Suarez and someone like Adam Johnson out with also.
For me in no way is Dempsey as clever or a tidy link player like Maxi.

I agree that Suarez and another player coming from wide linking up with a front man would be good. But when we put our best team out I would hope that neither Carroll or Dempsey would be in it.

[Eagle]

In terms of movement and reading the game Dempsey is up there with Maxi but he isn’t as good in terms of build up play.

[friendlyguy33]

We need a decent playmaker and a right winger who can provide the variation and service to Carroll and Suarez.

I don't know who though.