Andy Carroll signs for West Ham

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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:42 pm

id like to see the club keep andy and suarez as our strikers and sign another 2 in place of kuyt and maxi.
it makes no sense whatsoever to sell him on now at a riduculous loss given his age and the time he has been here.
he should be given till the end of next season to turn it around before deciding if indeed he should be sold.
the lack of goals throughout the front men is atrocious and its unfair that andy takes the heat for everyone.
its time to part company with maxi and kuyt.maxi obviously isnt in kennys plans and kuyt has gone downhill like a bobsled.truth is that both of these should have been shipped out last year and replaced with 2 younger strikers with a bit of pace.
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Postby worcester_red » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:34 pm

red till i die!! wrote:id like to see the club keep andy and suarez as our strikers and sign another 2 in place of kuyt and maxi.
it makes no sense whatsoever to sell him on now at a riduculous loss given his age and the time he has been here.
he should be given till the end of next season to turn it around before deciding if indeed he should be sold.
the lack of goals throughout the front men is atrocious and its unfair that andy takes the heat for everyone.
its time to part company with maxi and kuyt.maxi obviously isnt in kennys plans and kuyt has gone downhill like a bobsled.truth is that both of these should have been shipped out last year and replaced with 2 younger strikers with a bit of pace.

so it's unfair to blame a striker for not scoring goals is it? now I've heard it all, is it also unfair to blame a goalie/defenders for letting in soft goals???

Carrol is sh!te, end of discussion, he jogs around the pitch, never gets stuck in, has a terrible shot on him, is a bad header of the ball, can't hold the ball up, falls over if someone just breathes on him and is just a bl00dy appalling striker in every way, possibly the worst we've ever had, and yes I'm including Voronin in that analaysis!
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Postby dawson99 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:36 pm

I've heard that players are gonna start getting booked if they pass to him for time wasting
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Postby jacdaniel » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:39 pm

Im beginning to think that Kenny doesnt rate Carroll if Im honest.  A home game against Stoke, with Suarez suspended and Bellamy presumably not fit enough to start and still Kenny chose Kuyt over Andy.  Perhaps that says a lot about Kennys confidence in Andy?
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Postby red till i die!! » Tue Jan 17, 2012 2:42 pm

worcester_red wrote:
red till i die!! wrote:id like to see the club keep andy and suarez as our strikers and sign another 2 in place of kuyt and maxi.
it makes no sense whatsoever to sell him on now at a riduculous loss given his age and the time he has been here.
he should be given till the end of next season to turn it around before deciding if indeed he should be sold.
the lack of goals throughout the front men is atrocious and its unfair that andy takes the heat for everyone.
its time to part company with maxi and kuyt.maxi obviously isnt in kennys plans and kuyt has gone downhill like a bobsled.truth is that both of these should have been shipped out last year and replaced with 2 younger strikers with a bit of pace.

so it's unfair to blame a striker for not scoring goals is it!

no i said its unfair to blame andy carroll for all our strikers not scoring goals.
read the post properly.
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Postby Kerry07 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:53 pm

dawson99 wrote:I've heard that players are gonna start getting booked if they pass to him for time wasting

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Postby Kerry07 » Tue Jan 17, 2012 5:00 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Im beginning to think that Kenny doesnt rate Carroll if Im honest.  A home game against Stoke, with Suarez suspended and Bellamy presumably not fit enough to start and still Kenny chose Kuyt over Andy.  Perhaps that says a lot about Kennys confidence in Andy?

Absolutely, although i think he came to that conclusion a while ago. In press conferences Kenny gets tetchy when his name is brought up. You mention Gerrard or Suarez his face lights up.

It was well documented that with Suarez out for 8 games this would be an opportunity for Carroll to play. To resort to playing Kuyt upfront spoke volumes.
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Postby Kopite-Jud » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:36 pm

A friend of a friend seen him out in Newcastle last year and commented on how poorly he was playing and Andy replied with "i dont care, im still getting paid".

Dont know how true this is but he seems adimant he's not lying.

Doesnt surprise me to be honest :l
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:47 pm

Kopite-Jud wrote:A friend of a friend seen him out in Newcastle last year and commented on how poorly he was playing and Andy replied with "i dont care, im still getting paid".

Dont know how true this is but he seems adimant he's not lying.

Doesnt surprise me to be honest :l

A friend of a friend eh !  It must be true then , all we need for confirmation is to hear it from next door's neighbour's cousin's postman.

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Postby tubby » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:50 pm

jacdaniel wrote:Im beginning to think that Kenny doesnt rate Carroll if Im honest.  A home game against Stoke, with Suarez suspended and Bellamy presumably not fit enough to start and still Kenny chose Kuyt over Andy.  Perhaps that says a lot about Kennys confidence in Andy?

Unless i've missed something, how can we be so sure Comolli was 100% behind all the flop signings?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:59 pm

tubby wrote:
jacdaniel wrote:Im beginning to think that Kenny doesnt rate Carroll if Im honest.  A home game against Stoke, with Suarez suspended and Bellamy presumably not fit enough to start and still Kenny chose Kuyt over Andy.  Perhaps that says a lot about Kennys confidence in Andy?

Unless i've missed something, how can we be so sure Comolli was 100% behind all the flop signings?

Has there been an offical announcement from the club then that all the signings are flops ? Or are the club like the majority of the fans going to actually wait more than 20 games before judging.

As for Comolli and the signings - read Kenny's book
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Postby tubby » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:06 pm

Do you want to clue me in on what was said in the book? Tension between those 2 is the last thing we need right now. We need to make some good signings in this window.
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Postby neil » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:07 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Has there been an offical announcement from the club then that all the signings are flops ?

why dont you have a day off? these ridiculous responses dont do you any favours, you simply come across as some kind of deluded crusader.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:32 pm

tubby wrote:Do you want to clue me in on what was said in the book? Tension between those 2 is the last thing we need right now. We need to make some good signings in this window.

Basically Comolli asked if he wanted Suarez , Kenny said yes - he then asked him if he wanted Carroll and Kenny said yes , so Comolli went and got the players for Kenny
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Jan 17, 2012 11:34 pm

neil wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Has there been an offical announcement from the club then that all the signings are flops ?

why dont you have a day off? these rediculous responses dont do you any favours, you simply come across as some kind of deluded crusader.

I'll have a day off the minute I see people stop talking as if it's fact that signings have flopped .
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