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[maguskwt]

Andy Carroll had half a season in the Premier League where he scored 11 goals. Half a season! Not enough track record and we paid 35 million for him. Exactly the opposite of what Henry keep saying. Heskey scored 22 goals in one season for us but we were all fustrated with him weren't we?

[Kerry07]

Ngog offered more.

I'm sorry but this has to go down as the worst transfer of all time. The guy simply can't play football.

Yet he could at Newcastle?

I'm not saying Carroll is worth it by any means, but there is something majorly wrong with our scouts. Players who are performing well elsewhere just aren't fitting in for whatever reason.

Carroll was polific at Newcastle, he didn't just become sh!t, there is more to it.

I have no idea what it is, but all too often we are buying players, and they are just sh!te for us... no idea why

dont make stuff up.

Andy Carroll was on offer for 2 million pound sterling in August 2009 (prior to their season in the Championship). A half a season in the PL playing for a direct long ball team where he got on the end of scrappy stuff (his goal at Arsenal being a prime example).. does not constitute signing him.

It was a wacky transfer, and a basic analysis (ie.phone call to Glenn Roeder) would have ended any interest immediately.

[dawson99]

Ngog offered more.

I'm sorry but this has to go down as the worst transfer of all time. The guy simply can't play football.

Yet he could at Newcastle?

I'm not saying Carroll is worth it by any means, but there is something majorly wrong with our scouts. Players who are performing well elsewhere just aren't fitting in for whatever reason.

Carroll was polific at Newcastle, he didn't just become sh!t, there is more to it.

I have no idea what it is, but all too often we are buying players, and they are just sh!te for us... no idea why

dont make stuff up.

Andy Carroll was on offer for 2 million pound sterling in August 2009 (prior to their season in the Championship). A half a season in the PL playing for a direct long ball team where he got on the end of scrappy stuff (his goal at Arsenal being a prime example).. does not constitute signing him.

It was a wacky transfer, and a basic analysis (ie.phone call to Glenn Roeder) would have ended any interest immediately.

31 goals in 80 appearences for a team like Newcastle is awesome.

And yes, he is a long ball taker, hence it is the scouts fault for picking him out, the managers and owners fault for putting in all the money. Most people even said Carroll didn't really wanna go but our stupid amount made it impossible to keep him.

Can't blame Carroll for our downfall, he plays a certain way, always has, and we tried to fit a round peg in a square hole

[Kerry07]

31 goals in 80 appearences for a team like Newcastle is awesome.

And yes, he is a long ball taker, hence it is the scouts fault for picking him out, the managers and owners fault for putting in all the money. Most people even said Carroll didn't really wanna go but our stupid amount made it impossible to keep him.

Can't blame Carroll for our downfall, he plays a certain way, always has, and we tried to fit a round peg in a square hole

Actually 14 goals (he scored 17 in the dean windass championship) is a shocking return for a team that caters to his limitations. He will average less with us than he did with Newcastle.

At Stoke he would be around the 10 goal mark by now.. they lump in balls from all angles (set piece, throw ins, long balls). A team that plays on the floor, which badly exposes his shocking inability, makes him look even worse.

Hes a limited player who belongs in a team that play a midtable standard direct game.

[dawson99]

31 goals in 80 appearences for a team like Newcastle is awesome.

And yes, he is a long ball taker, hence it is the scouts fault for picking him out, the managers and owners fault for putting in all the money. Most people even said Carroll didn't really wanna go but our stupid amount made it impossible to keep him.

Can't blame Carroll for our downfall, he plays a certain way, always has, and we tried to fit a round peg in a square hole

Actually 14 goals (he scored 17 in the dean windass championship) is a shocking return for a team that caters to his limitations. He will average less with us than he did with Newcastle.

At Stoke he would be around the 10 goal mark by now.. they lump in balls from all angles (set piece, throw ins, long balls). A team that plays on the floor, which badly exposes his shocking inability, makes him look even worse.

Hes a limited player who belongs in a team that play a midtable standard direct game.

yes hes limited, but we cant slag him off when we brought him. He didnt wanna come, we just wasted money on a player 99% of us knew wouldnt fit in

[Kukilon]

He is loosing us CL football it's that easy and had we bought a better suited player we wouldn't be having this discussion.

It's not his fault we bought him but it's our fault if we don't voice our disgust of how bad he is. He is the worst attacker currently playing in the EPL.

[7_Kewell]

He is loosing us CL football it's that easy and had we bought a better suited player we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Kenny's lost us a CL spot by buying this in the first place. I don't blame the players, i blame the people who signed them

[Kukilon]

He is loosing us CL football it's that easy and had we bought a better suited player we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Kenny's lost us a CL spot by buying this in the first place. I don't blame the players, i blame the people who signed them

That is true but Andy is still to bad to play for us.

[7_Kewell]

He is loosing us CL football it's that easy and had we bought a better suited player we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Kenny's lost us a CL spot by buying this in the first place. I don't blame the players, i blame the people who signed them

That is true but Andy is still to bad to play for us.

what can we do?  Sell him back to Newcastle for 10 million?  Kenny's transfer dealings make Houllier look like a genius.

[dundreamin]

Got to take this on the chin. He is absolutely s,*i*e get rid NOW. no excuses, get rid NOW

[Kerry07]

31 goals in 80 appearences for a team like Newcastle is awesome.

And yes, he is a long ball taker, hence it is the scouts fault for picking him out, the managers and owners fault for putting in all the money. Most people even said Carroll didn't really wanna go but our stupid amount made it impossible to keep him.

Can't blame Carroll for our downfall, he plays a certain way, always has, and we tried to fit a round peg in a square hole

Actually 14 goals (he scored 17 in the dean windass championship) is a shocking return for a team that caters to his limitations. He will average less with us than he did with Newcastle.

At Stoke he would be around the 10 goal mark by now.. they lump in balls from all angles (set piece, throw ins, long balls). A team that plays on the floor, which badly exposes his shocking inability, makes him look even worse.

Hes a limited player who belongs in a team that play a midtable standard direct game.

yes hes limited, but we cant slag him off when we brought him. He didnt wanna come, we just wasted money on a player 99% of us knew wouldnt fit in

Oh i agree.. at the end of the day its the person who signed him that is responsible. Andy Carroll is not the one to blame for us signing him, he didnt sanction it. Who let him in?

If a thief burgles your house after you put out the welcome mat and leave the door wide open, its you who is responsible for the stuff being nicked. The insurance company wouldnt hand you a penny.

Carroll has been shocking, but who let him in the club? Its for this reason that SOME are reluctant to be critical of the player.. because its Kenny (or Comolli) who the criticism is really being aimed at. They sanctioned it. Thats why i say if this was a Roy Hodgson signing the player would be getting lambasted from every single angle.

[Kukilon]

He is loosing us CL football it's that easy and had we bought a better suited player we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Kenny's lost us a CL spot by buying this in the first place. I don't blame the players, i blame the people who signed them

That is true but Andy is still to bad to play for us.

what can we do?  Sell him back to Newcastle for 10 million?  Kenny's transfer dealings make Houllier look like a genius.

If anyone is willing to pay 10 million for him I would snap their hand off in a heat beat.

I seriously think he is worth nothing to other clubs with his wages. I can find you better players in the swedish second division that earns 500 pounds a week.

[Penguins]

Which is why I was reluctant having Kenny back as manager in the 1st place. Because of situations like this.

He is a legend and rightly so but because of that he will be treated differently which I think is wrong.

If Rafa or Ruy had away 100 million on players and the team would be sitting comfortably on 6th-7th they'd be totally slaughtered. But Kenny can away 200 million and finish 10th and very few would say much at all...

[7_Kewell]

Which is why I was reluctant having Kenny back as manager in the 1st place. Because of situations like this.

He is a legend and rightly so but because of that he will be treated differently which I think is wrong.

If Rafa or Ruy had away 100 million on players and the team would be sitting comfortably on 6th-7th they'd be totally slaughtered. But Kenny can away 200 million and finish 10th and very few would say much at all...

i often wonder how things would have panned out if Roy had been given 100 million to spend...but that's besides the point.

Fact is, Kenny is our manager and for many he can't do no wrong.

But for me, he's Royally f**ked up with his transfer signings and we've taken a step backwards

[Thommo's perm]

Got to take this on the chin. He is absolutely s,*i*e get rid NOW. no excuses, get rid NOW

Then Henderson, Downing and Kuyt have to go too
Put Johnson on the transfer list while youre at it