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Postby Dinger » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:02 pm

bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

Spot on, far to early to be expecting miracles of the lad, the Italian game is a very different kettle of fish. We can't expect him to be world class straight of the boat.
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Postby Dinger » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:04 pm

bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

Spot on, far to early to be expecting miracles of the lad, the Italian game is a very different kettle of fish. We can't expect him to be world class straight of the boat. Robbie Keane on the other hand had been playing Premiership football for years.
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Postby Sir Roger » Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:48 pm

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bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

Spot on, far to early to be expecting miracles of the lad, the Italian game is a very different kettle of fish. We can't expect him to be world class straight of the boat. Robbie Keane on the other hand had been playing Premiership football for years.

I thought he was excellent on Tuesday after his good performance against Spurs. Im so glad Rafas giving him a chance to prove his worth and try to justify his fee
Oh hang on
He didnt play did he...?
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Postby Penguins » Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:36 pm

Sir Roger wrote:
Dinger wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

Spot on, far to early to be expecting miracles of the lad, the Italian game is a very different kettle of fish. We can't expect him to be world class straight of the boat. Robbie Keane on the other hand had been playing Premiership football for years.

I thought he was excellent on Tuesday after his good performance against Spurs. Im so glad Rafas giving him a chance to prove his worth and try to justify his fee
Oh hang on
He didnt play did he...?

spot on
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Postby Sir Roger » Fri Jan 29, 2010 12:46 am

Its too painful to watch
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Postby TarnRed » Fri Jan 29, 2010 9:51 am

bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

I agree.

I'd personally like to see him given more playing time being able to play in the role he revelled in at AS Roma playing just off the striker, for this to happen Gerrard would have to drop back into a midfield role albeit at either the expense of Lucas or Masch, I also feel this would benfit the team on the whole giving us the link that I feel we have missed between the holding midfielder and the man playing in the hole behind the striker, at the minute it is just too congested in there with 2 holding midfielders, whether this would work who's to know but it can't be any worse than the way the current team is set out.
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Postby Waldo » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:43 pm

I don't think we can ask for much more than what we've already seen from the lad. He is in and out of the team (not his fault) but when he's been in he has looked better with every game. The biggest mistake we (the fans) have made is expecting too much too soon from the guy.

Torres is a freak and he is one example of a player from an overseas league who slots in straight away and hits the ground running.
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Postby leep33 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:46 pm

He needs to be given a chance and time on the pitch which he isn't getting at the moment, hopefully he will get a run in the team and show what he can do.
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Postby Kerry07 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:40 pm

TarnRed wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

I agree.

I'd personally like to see him given more playing time being able to play in the role he revelled in at AS Roma playing just off the striker, for this to happen Gerrard would have to drop back into a midfield role albeit at either the expense of Lucas or Masch, I also feel this would benfit the team on the whole giving us the link that I feel we have missed between the holding midfielder and the man playing in the hole behind the striker, at the minute it is just too congested in there with 2 holding midfielders, whether this would work who's to know but it can't be any worse than the way the current team is set out.

Suicide.

Steven George Gerrard will NEVER be a central midfielder. He doesnt have the game to play there.

To play central midfield (alongside the destroyer) you need composure in passing... a calm, controlled, relaxed style of play...ie. Alonso, Xavi, Scholes, De La Pena, Iniesta, Fabregas, Vieira...even Fat Fwank... they are all able to recieve the ball, pass it short, move into space, get it back...maintain possession. This appears simple..but it aint. Gerrard is too anxious to play this role...too impatient, always looking for the killer ball which in turn gives away possession.

Gerrard's position will always be as an advanced attacking midfielder, where he does the damage in either screaming them in from 30 yards..or threading a pass for an assist. He has always had controlling midfielders in the team..Redknapp, Hamann, McAllister, Alonso... even Danny Murphy. We dont have any right now which has killed us this season.

Aquilani imo is a real player...ive seen enough. His touch, his inventive/creative style.. i'm in no doubt he is potential world class. Yes hes been wayward with his passing at times (not played in over 8 months, coming into a new team, and one thats disjointed and in poor form)... but you can see the variation in his passes and the penetration he looks for, so there are positives as far as he is concerned. However, it looks as tho Rafa has made a blunder...because Aquilani's position...is not Alonso's position for which he was bought to fill, but instead he plays in Gerrard's position.

Essentially, Rafa has bought a potential world class back-up for Gerrard, instead of a replacement for Alonso, as the center of midfield has been massively weakened.

A replacement for Alonso remains top priority.
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Postby metalhead » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:28 pm

Kerry07 wrote:Suicide.

Steven George Gerrard will NEVER be a central midfielder. He doesnt have the game to play there.

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Postby Kerry07 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:46 pm

metalhead wrote:
Kerry07 wrote:Suicide.

Steven George Gerrard will NEVER be a central midfielder. He doesnt have the game to play there.

???

You being sarky??

Gerrard is not a central mid...not now, not ever. He doesnt have the calm composure to do it. He played there in Istanbul in the 1st half, and only thing i recall from Gerrard in that opening 45 was when he attempted a forward pass, was dispossesed..given to Kaka who then turned Gerrard..and threaded it through for Crespo to dink home the 3rd...we were massacred. On comes Hamann... Gerrard gets back in his natural advanced midfield position and runs riot. In the FA Cup final vs Arsenal 2001... he also played central mid up to the 75th minute and in Gerrards own admission got a real doing from Vieira...we only gained control of midfield when McAllister came on.

Gerrard is at his best when he is let off the leash in advanced midfield, where he doesnt have to be patient, or a controlled metronomic passer.

Gerrard doesnt have the tools that Alonso had.
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Postby Sir Roger » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:50 pm

Kerry07 wrote:
TarnRed wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I still think it's too early to judge him given the time he was out for. Id say maybe around March or April time he will be at full fitness not to mention he has to adapt to the physical side of the premiership so probably next season. I just wish he would play more often.

I agree.

I'd personally like to see him given more playing time being able to play in the role he revelled in at AS Roma playing just off the striker, for this to happen Gerrard would have to drop back into a midfield role albeit at either the expense of Lucas or Masch, I also feel this would benfit the team on the whole giving us the link that I feel we have missed between the holding midfielder and the man playing in the hole behind the striker, at the minute it is just too congested in there with 2 holding midfielders, whether this would work who's to know but it can't be any worse than the way the current team is set out.

Suicide.

Steven George Gerrard will NEVER be a central midfielder. He doesnt have the game to play there.

To play central midfield (alongside the destroyer) you need composure in passing... a calm, controlled, relaxed style of play...ie. Alonso, Xavi, Scholes, De La Pena, Iniesta, Fabregas, Vieira...even Fat Fwank... they are all able to recieve the ball, pass it short, move into space, get it back...maintain possession. This appears simple..but it aint. Gerrard is too anxious to play this role...too impatient, always looking for the killer ball which in turn gives away possession.

Gerrard's position will always be as an advanced attacking midfielder, where he does the damage in either screaming them in from 30 yards..or threading a pass for an assist. He has always had controlling midfielders in the team..Redknapp, Hamann, McAllister, Alonso... even Danny Murphy. We dont have any right now which has killed us this season.

Aquilani imo is a real player...ive seen enough. His touch, his inventive/creative style.. i'm in no doubt he is potential world class. Yes hes been wayward with his passing at times (not played in over 8 months, coming into a new team, and one thats disjointed and in poor form)... but you can see the variation in his passes and the penetration he looks for, so there are positives as far as he is concerned. However, it looks as tho Rafa has made a blunder...because Aquilani's position...is not Alonso's position for which he was bought to fill, but instead he plays in Gerrard's position.

Essentially, Rafa has bought a potential world class back-up for Gerrard, instead of a replacement for Alonso, as the center of midfield has been massively weakened.

A replacement for Alonso remains top priority.

Haha
Cat amongst the pigeons there methinks
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:52 pm

Isn't this an Aquilani thread?
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Postby Kerry07 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 4:58 pm

Theres a reason Gerrard hasn't been good at international level.. because he cant keep the ball, hes impatient and doesnt have the calm, controlled persona required hence he gives the ball away.... and he isnt given the free reigns hes afforded with us to play advanced midfield and do as he pleases.

With England..hes given a set position, and that means having patience, being calm and economic with his passes, which he cannot do... hence he suffers bigtime.


So...he should never be considered for central mid for us. I'd play him on the right, with Aquilani in the hole.
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Postby Sir Roger » Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:08 pm

dawson99 wrote:Isn't this an Aquilani thread?

Aquilani knows Gerrard

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