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JoeTerp wrote:

Sabre wrote:Yes Joe, I know Rafa a bit too. But Real Madrid are more desperate than us. And when the teams interested, are Madrid and Manchester City you have to forget about your training camp and your options, and be clever.

Real Madrid are desperate to get a team with names. They're not happy with Wenger saying no (credit to the man) and they have extra pressure. They were used to get and buy with arrogance, and now Wenget says them no. Their pride is hurt, and they've announced Alonso is a target. Their level of desperation have some zeros more than ours.

It's time to be ruthless and I won't forgive Rafa an early agreement.

if it is true that Real want to "get more Spanish," do you think we could possibly get an even better "value for money" if we wanted to do a player swap deal for a non-Spaniard that they might be keen to depart with and sell for less that their actual value?  Because of the drop in pound, it is going to "seem" more expensive this summer to buy from Europe than it has been recently.  Gago+cash? Sneijder+Cash?  Gago+Sneijder? I would wonder if people think Mascherano-Alonso is too "defensive," what they would think about Gago-Mascherano. Although they did win a gold medal together.

Sabre wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:

Sabre wrote:Yes Joe, I know Rafa a bit too. But Real Madrid are more desperate than us. And when the teams interested, are Madrid and Manchester City you have to forget about your training camp and your options, and be clever.

Real Madrid are desperate to get a team with names. They're not happy with Wenger saying no (credit to the man) and they have extra pressure. They were used to get and buy with arrogance, and now Wenget says them no. Their pride is hurt, and they've announced Alonso is a target. Their level of desperation have some zeros more than ours.

It's time to be ruthless and I won't forgive Rafa an early agreement.

if it is true that Real want to "get more Spanish," do you think we could possibly get an even better "value for money" if we wanted to do a player swap deal for a non-Spaniard that they might be keen to depart with and sell for less that their actual value?  Because of the drop in pound, it is going to "seem" more expensive this summer to buy from Europe than it has been recently.  Gago+cash? Sneijder+Cash?  Gago+Sneijder? I would wonder if people think Mascherano-Alonso is too "defensive," what they would think about Gago-Mascherano. Although they did win a gold medal together.

Gago I wouldn't mind, but Snejder is a bad professional mate. He likes more the nights than the ball.

I guess that it's pretty likely that players are involved in an eventual deal. I wouldn't mind to see names like Huntelaar involved.

We could get Guti too, for the Liverpool women team.

Huntelaar would be a good addition if we absolutely had to do business with that shower.

Sabre wrote:

JoeTerp wrote:

Sabre wrote:Yes Joe, I know Rafa a bit too. But Real Madrid are more desperate than us. And when the teams interested, are Madrid and Manchester City you have to forget about your training camp and your options, and be clever.

Real Madrid are desperate to get a team with names. They're not happy with Wenger saying no (credit to the man) and they have extra pressure. They were used to get and buy with arrogance, and now Wenget says them no. Their pride is hurt, and they've announced Alonso is a target. Their level of desperation have some zeros more than ours.

It's time to be ruthless and I won't forgive Rafa an early agreement.

if it is true that Real want to "get more Spanish," do you think we could possibly get an even better "value for money" if we wanted to do a player swap deal for a non-Spaniard that they might be keen to depart with and sell for less that their actual value?  Because of the drop in pound, it is going to "seem" more expensive this summer to buy from Europe than it has been recently.  Gago+cash? Sneijder+Cash?  Gago+Sneijder? I would wonder if people think Mascherano-Alonso is too "defensive," what they would think about Gago-Mascherano. Although they did win a gold medal together.

Gago I wouldn't mind, but Snejder is a bad professional mate. He likes more the nights than the ball.

I guess that it's pretty likely that players are involved in an eventual deal. I wouldn't mind to see names like Huntelaar involved.

We could get Guti too, for the Liverpool women team.

Maybe we could bring in Gago and Higuain.  Then sign Tevez.  Might be easier to tempt Messi over in a couple years     Heck, I would ask for Heinze and Saviola too if I thought that trick would work    Although then there would be the debate of whether Messi would be any good in the prem

heimdall wrote:

GYBS wrote:and what exactly has rafa and xabi said in the press - "not for sale " "not going anywhere " "wants to stay "

Oh well I've never heard a manager or a player say that before a transfer, it's all ok then. 

peewee wrote:

heimdall wrote:

GYBS wrote:and what exactly has rafa and xabi said in the press - "not for sale " "not going anywhere " "wants to stay "

Oh well I've never heard a manager or a player say that before a transfer, it's all ok then. 

exactly the same things he was saying before he fired keane off. If rafa said it was raining outside I would check

bigmick wrote:There's a thing in the times online this morning regarding Ancellotti and his protracted move to Chelsea. In that, he says that in one of his meetings with Abrhamovic the Russian complained of the team having no "personality". Ancellotti suggested two signings, one of which was Alonso.

Could it be that the Madrid thing is actually wide of the mark and Xabi has been tapped up for a move to Chelsea? Surely not.

My money is still on him being at Liverpool for game one next season.

bigmick wrote:Could it be that the Madrid thing is actually wide of the mark and Xabi has been tapped up for a move to Chelsea? Surely not.

Feckin hope not 

NANNY RED wrote:

peewee wrote:

heimdall wrote:

GYBS wrote:and what exactly has rafa and xabi said in the press - "not for sale " "not going anywhere " "wants to stay "

Oh well I've never heard a manager or a player say that before a transfer, it's all ok then. 

exactly the same things he was saying before he fired keane off. If rafa said it was raining outside I would check

Was Keane playing week in week out NO, Was Keane one of the best players weve got NO, Its a bit of a different scenario this time i think,

peewee wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:

peewee wrote:

heimdall wrote:

GYBS wrote:and what exactly has rafa and xabi said in the press - "not for sale " "not going anywhere " "wants to stay "

Oh well I've never heard a manager or a player say that before a transfer, it's all ok then. 

exactly the same things he was saying before he fired keane off. If rafa said it was raining outside I would check

Was Keane playing week in week out NO, Was Keane one of the best players weve got NO, Its a bit of a different scenario this time i think,

No it isnt a different scenario Nan, this is based on the manager and not the quality of the player, its not relevant who the player is, in both situations he has said he wants the player to stay, he said this the day keane left, this makes his comment about wanting alonso to stay as being less believable.

Its like if I tell you to tust me and I wont hit you, but then I hit you anyway, will you trust me next time?

I thought you was in bed

its totaly different Pee we all knew Keane was a gonna , an when he was asked about Keane still being a Liverpool player he said i hope so, i HOPE SO an I want are totaly different.

Id hit you first anyway

NANNY RED wrote:

peewee wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:

peewee wrote:

heimdall wrote:

GYBS wrote:and what exactly has rafa and xabi said in the press - "not for sale " "not going anywhere " "wants to stay "

Oh well I've never heard a manager or a player say that before a transfer, it's all ok then. 

exactly the same things he was saying before he fired keane off. If rafa said it was raining outside I would check

Was Keane playing week in week out NO, Was Keane one of the best players weve got NO, Its a bit of a different scenario this time i think,

No it isnt a different scenario Nan, this is based on the manager and not the quality of the player, its not relevant who the player is, in both situations he has said he wants the player to stay, he said this the day keane left, this makes his comment about wanting alonso to stay as being less believable.

Its like if I tell you to tust me and I wont hit you, but then I hit you anyway, will you trust me next time?

I thought you was in bed

its totaly different Pee we all knew Keane was a gonna , an when he was asked about Keane still being a Liverpool player he said i hope so, i HOPE SO an I want are totaly different.

Id hit you first anyway

It's 4 oclock in the afternoon Nan      you really need to get to grips with these time zones   

Just add 6 hours to your time and add 7 hours when the clocks change