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by **Gobbo juventino** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:34 am

maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

by **Judge** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:39 am

Gobbo juventino wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

he has announced his retirement from international football, that means he'll be at bolton wanderers in a couple of months

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:46 am

Gobbo juventino wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

An Xabi is a Liverpool player

Who i hope will still be wearing the red shirt next season

by **metalhead** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:56 am

reading some footy sites saying that Juventus pulled the plug on alonso.

Anyone can clarify? or is it b*llox?

by **Gobbo juventino** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:01 pm

NANNY RED wrote:
Gobbo juventino wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

An Xabi is a Liverpool player

Who i hope will still be wearing the red shirt next season

And I hope th e next season Xabi will wear the white-Black shirt

by **Reg** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:10 pm

Owzat wrote:
RedBlood wrote:i hope he stays why get rid of one of our world class players?? it dont make sense and ill be gutted

In terms of strengthening the team and squad you're right, Alonso is far from our weakest squad player and Barny would not be a significant improvement. I'm happy for us to sell the likes of Crouch, Finnan, Riise and Pennant because we can improve on them without too much difficulty. Those kind of players should be out the door before we start shipping out players like Alonso.

I mentioned before that Rafa signed twelve players that have left already, the most expensive of those was Luis Garcia/Bellamy/Morientes - all signed at £6m. Crouch cost us £7m so will be #13 to leave in only four seasons and Alonso would be #14 and the most expensive signing to leave

Rafa's most expensive signings.

1. £21.0m Torres
2. £17.0m Mascherano
3. £11.5m Babel
4. £10.5m Alonso
5. £10.0m Kuyt
6. £7.0m Crouch
7. £6.7m Pennant
8. £6.0m Luis Garcia
9. £6.0m Morientes
10. £6.0m Bellamy
11. £6.0m Reina
12. £6.0m Skrtel

Barny would be 2nd/3rd which is tragic, half his top ten have been, or are about to be, sold. It's a shame we didn't spend a bit more in the first place and sign some players that would have been first teamers for years, not some hit and miss signings that are offloaded - most within two seasons of signing (Luis Garcia lasted 3, Sissoko 2.5 as the longest of the dirty dozen)

Owzat, you miss one vital factor from your table, time. You need to put purchase date against each player and plot cash availability by period.

You´ll see the cheaper lads (bar the obvious) came in over one period, the most expensive in another. Alonso is the odd man out becuase clearly Rafa splashed out mega bucks to buy him when we didnt have the cash available.

It puts a different perspective on it and according to the stats, you CAN say that over time Rafa has had considerably more money made available to him and has been willing to fork out greater values on higher class players - bearing in mind also the money paid out for the youngsters which has also increased the non first team wage bill.

We´re moving forward.

by **LegBarnes** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:29 pm

Judge wrote:
Gobbo juventino wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

he has announced his retirement from international football, that means he'll be at bolton wanderers in a couple of months

HAHA classic fell of my seat

by **LegBarnes** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 1:32 pm

Reg wrote:
Owzat wrote:
RedBlood wrote:i hope he stays why get rid of one of our world class players?? it dont make sense and ill be gutted

In terms of strengthening the team and squad you're right, Alonso is far from our weakest squad player and Barny would not be a significant improvement. I'm happy for us to sell the likes of Crouch, Finnan, Riise and Pennant because we can improve on them without too much difficulty. Those kind of players should be out the door before we start shipping out players like Alonso.

I mentioned before that Rafa signed twelve players that have left already, the most expensive of those was Luis Garcia/Bellamy/Morientes - all signed at £6m. Crouch cost us £7m so will be #13 to leave in only four seasons and Alonso would be #14 and the most expensive signing to leave

Rafa's most expensive signings.

1. £21.0m Torres
2. £17.0m Mascherano
3. £11.5m Babel
4. £10.5m Alonso
5. £10.0m Kuyt
6. £7.0m Crouch
7. £6.7m Pennant
8. £6.0m Luis Garcia
9. £6.0m Morientes
10. £6.0m Bellamy
11. £6.0m Reina
12. £6.0m Skrtel

Barny would be 2nd/3rd which is tragic, half his top ten have been, or are about to be, sold. It's a shame we didn't spend a bit more in the first place and sign some players that would have been first teamers for years, not some hit and miss signings that are offloaded - most within two seasons of signing (Luis Garcia lasted 3, Sissoko 2.5 as the longest of the dirty dozen)

Owzat, you miss one vital factor from your table, time. You need to put purchase date against each player and plot cash availability by period.

You´ll see the cheaper lads (bar the obvious) came in over one period, the most expensive in another. Alonso is the odd man out becuase clearly Rafa splashed out mega bucks to buy him when we didnt have the cash available.

It puts a different perspective on it and according to the stats, you CAN say that over time Rafa has had considerably more money made available to him and has been willing to fork out greater values on higher class players - bearing in mind also the money paid out for the youngsters which has also increased the non first team wage bill.

We´re moving forward.

also tho the top 3 are the best ones he got to club so lets take it as a omen if he pays more then say 12 mil for player he will end up being class.... there you go problem solved end of topic !

by **maypaxvobiscum** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:02 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Judge wrote:
Gobbo juventino wrote:
maypaxvobiscum wrote:i dont mind selling alonso
alonso for 10m + trezeguet

Trezeguet is a Juventus Player

he has announced his retirement from international football, that means he'll be at bolton wanderers in a couple of months

HAHA classic fell of my seat

you never know.
anelka may have told him something.

by **Gobbo juventino** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:27 pm

Attention : In my forum an utent says Alonso tuesday will be a juventus player. What do you think about it?

by **Bad Bob** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 8:14 pm

Gobbo juventino wrote:Attention : In my forum an utent says Alonso tuesday will be a juventus player. What do you think about it?

If your forum is anything like our forum, mate, I wouldn't hold your breath, given some of the nonsense you read on here. (Ronaldinho and Eto'o coming to watch us play Tranmere Rovers this weekend etc.)

by **NANNY RED** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:05 pm

Gobbo juventino wrote:Attention : In my forum an utent says Alonso tuesday will be a juventus player. What do you think about it?

Well id sooner believe Rafa than anyone on your forum :laugh:

Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez is unsure whether Xabi Alonso will leave the club to join Juventus.

Alonso is a confirmed target for Juventus, but the Italian club have been unable to agree a fee for the Spanish midfielder.

Benitez has admitted that he is waiting to learn whether Juventus are willing to increase their bid for the 26-year-old.

The former Real Sociedad schemer has said he is happy to stay at Anfield, and Benitez also appears keen to keep his compatriot at the club.

"The situation with Alonso has not changed," said Benitez.

"Juventus made an offer that was not good enough and now we are just waiting. I do not know, really, whether that will go through.

"Xabi wants to stay because he is happy here, but he also knows that Juventus is a top side.

"I have talked to him, he knows my ideas and he knows why. So we will try to find a solution for him, for us, and the best for the club."

Meanwhile, Liverpool have announced the signing of 17-year-old Dutch forward Vincent Lucas Weijl.

The teenager, who came through the academy at AZ Alkmaar, has signed a three-year deal and will go into the reserves squad.

by **Sabre** » Thu Jul 10, 2008 9:18 pm

"I have talked to him, he knows my ideas and he knows why. So we will try to find a solution for him, for us, and the best for the club."

In my country this means, I wouldn't mind him to leave, but not for low teens. I don't think he'll stay Nanny.

But if he stays, I'm sure he'll fight hard for a place and will pose serious competition for his team mates. Alonso is the kind of player that knows being on the bench without much noises, he'll just wait for his chance and during the year that chance will come.

At least he won't leave at any price, which was my main concern.

by **Owzat** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:31 am

Sabre wrote:"I have talked to him, he knows my ideas and he knows why. So we will try to find a solution for him, for us, and the best for the club."

In my country this means, I wouldn't mind him to leave, but not for low teens. I don't think he'll stay Nanny.

But if he stays, I'm sure he'll fight hard for a place and will pose serious competition for his team mates. Alonso is the kind of player that knows being on the bench without much noises, he'll just wait for his chance and during the year that chance will come.

At least he won't leave at any price, which was my main concern.

I wonder if Barny will mind being on the bench if it came to that.

by **JamCar05** » Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:58 pm

Apparently Juve are looking to sign Christian Poulsen from Sevilla instead of Alonso, as they won't pay our asking price (though they would rather want Alonso). I wonder if this would mean Alonso would stay, as I haven't really heard other teams mentioned in connection with him for quite a while?

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