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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:14 pm

Yes im sure we would all understand but would Kenny really step up into the firing line - how long before people start on him when things dont go well - and we all know people would get on his back if it didnt go the way they want it .

Kenny is a hero a legend , a one in a million - let him stay that way and be untarnished . Management stopped for him after he left the geordies and his life is now happy good and relaxed - let it stay that way - he deserves it .
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Postby made in UK » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:17 pm

NO, WE NEED TO STICK WITH RAFA!

Besides I want to taste the blind faith of a superfan.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:19 pm

big al wrote:The way the season has progressed is exactly as anyone could have predicted.

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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:20 pm

made in UK wrote:NO, WE NEED TO STICK WITH RAFA!

Besides I want to taste the blind faith of a superfan.

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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:20 pm

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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:21 pm

LFC2007 wrote:
big al wrote:The way the season has progressed is exactly as anyone could have predicted.

:)

I must admit this is not the way I expected the season to go.  :down:
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:22 pm

s@int wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:
big al wrote:The way the season has progressed is exactly as anyone could have predicted.

:)

I must admit this is not the way I expected the season to go.  :down:

Me as well  :sniffle
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Postby Ben Patrick » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:22 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:Yes im sure we would all understand but would Kenny really step up into the firing line - how long before people start on him when things dont go well - and we all know people would get on his back if it didnt go the way they want it .

Kenny is a hero a legend , a one in a million - let him stay that way and be untarnished . Management stopped for him after he left the geordies and his life is now happy good and relaxed - let it stay that way - he deserves it .

Right let me quickly check if ave got this right....


you are indicating that fans would turn on king kenny quickly if things didnt go quite right ?
The same fans we have that stood by houllier when he was struggling and that were singing YNWA at the end then and not booing and kicking off, despite the fact that we had gone out meekly ?

Is this what you are saying ?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:24 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes im sure we would all understand but would Kenny really step up into the firing line - how long before people start on him when things dont go well - and we all know people would get on his back if it didnt go the way they want it .

Kenny is a hero a legend , a one in a million - let him stay that way and be untarnished . Management stopped for him after he left the geordies and his life is now happy good and relaxed - let it stay that way - he deserves it .

Right let me quickly check if ave got this right....


you are indicating that fans would turn on king kenny quickly if things didnt go quite right ?
The same fans we have that stood by houllier when he was struggling and that were singing YNWA at the end then and not booing and kicking off, despite the fact that we had gone out meekly ?

Is this what you are saying ?

That is exactly what im saying - some fans would turn on kenny .
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Postby Emerald Red » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:26 pm

bigmick wrote:Well for me the performance tonight had a dangerous tinge of "lost the dressing room" to it. The players had no urgency to get the 4-0 win they may have needed, and indeed were very fortunate to get the win at all in the end.

I'm begining to come around to the idea that the change needs to be made sooner rather than later. Lose to Everton on Sunday and we should shake hands and put the whole experience behind us I think.

Mick, very few occasions I'll read a post of yours and disagree with it. Very few occassions I'll read on and feel compelled to say you're talking absolute shyte. This is one of those times. Not you, or anyone else bar the players can say Rafa has lost the dressing room. This place is getting as bad as reading the back of the local rag on a Sunday FFS!
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Postby Ben Patrick » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:28 pm

Benny The Noon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes im sure we would all understand but would Kenny really step up into the firing line - how long before people start on him when things dont go well - and we all know people would get on his back if it didnt go the way they want it .

Kenny is a hero a legend , a one in a million - let him stay that way and be untarnished . Management stopped for him after he left the geordies and his life is now happy good and relaxed - let it stay that way - he deserves it .

Right let me quickly check if ave got this right....


you are indicating that fans would turn on king kenny quickly if things didnt go quite right ?
The same fans we have that stood by houllier when he was struggling and that were singing YNWA at the end then and not booing and kicking off, despite the fact that we had gone out meekly ?

Is this what you are saying ?

That is exactly what im saying - some fans would turn on kenny .

Not having that, you are all defending rafa to the hilt as its the liverpool way, fair enough.

Kennys status at the club is on a completley different level, and he would be coming in and trying to keep afloat a sinking ship.
You underestimate our fans affection for the king imo.
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Postby bigmick » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:31 pm

Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:Well for me the performance tonight had a dangerous tinge of "lost the dressing room" to it. The players had no urgency to get the 4-0 win they may have needed, and indeed were very fortunate to get the win at all in the end.

I'm begining to come around to the idea that the change needs to be made sooner rather than later. Lose to Everton on Sunday and we should shake hands and put the whole experience behind us I think.

Mick, very few occasions I'll read a post of yours and disagree with it. Very few occassions I'll read on and feel compelled to say you're talking absolute shyte. This is one of those times. Not you, or anyone else bar the players can say Rafa has lost the dressing room. This place is getting as bad as reading the back of the local rag on a Sunday FFS!

Mate I listened to the commentry in German on my computer. I'm not basing my theory on what anybody else is saying, it isn entirely my own opinion from what I saw and have been seeing. This idea that once we heard Fiorentina had scored our heads went down is ridiculous and a damning endictment. Didn't we consider thew possibility that they might score a goal, didn't we talk beforehand about the need to keep the tempo high, to press for four goals?

If we didn't then we fecking should have, if we did, then the players didn't take any notice. Either way it don't look good.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:32 pm

Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:
Ben Patrick wrote:
Benny The Noon wrote:Yes im sure we would all understand but would Kenny really step up into the firing line - how long before people start on him when things dont go well - and we all know people would get on his back if it didnt go the way they want it .

Kenny is a hero a legend , a one in a million - let him stay that way and be untarnished . Management stopped for him after he left the geordies and his life is now happy good and relaxed - let it stay that way - he deserves it .

Right let me quickly check if ave got this right....


you are indicating that fans would turn on king kenny quickly if things didnt go quite right ?
The same fans we have that stood by houllier when he was struggling and that were singing YNWA at the end then and not booing and kicking off, despite the fact that we had gone out meekly ?

Is this what you are saying ?

That is exactly what im saying - some fans would turn on kenny .

Not having that, you are all defending rafa to the hilt as its the liverpool way, fair enough.

Kennys status at the club is on a completley different level, and he would be coming in and trying to keep afloat a sinking ship.
You underestimate our fans affection for the king imo.

I understand that mate unfortunatley there is plenty of fickle fans out there - plenty who dont understand the history the heritage that comes with our club - those fans that tagged along after 05 . Those people that believe and listen to everything written in the press .

Disclaimer -  this is not aimed at anyone in particular .
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Postby Emerald Red » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:36 pm

bigmick wrote:
Emerald Red wrote:
bigmick wrote:Well for me the performance tonight had a dangerous tinge of "lost the dressing room" to it. The players had no urgency to get the 4-0 win they may have needed, and indeed were very fortunate to get the win at all in the end.

I'm begining to come around to the idea that the change needs to be made sooner rather than later. Lose to Everton on Sunday and we should shake hands and put the whole experience behind us I think.

Mick, very few occasions I'll read a post of yours and disagree with it. Very few occassions I'll read on and feel compelled to say you're talking absolute shyte. This is one of those times. Not you, or anyone else bar the players can say Rafa has lost the dressing room. This place is getting as bad as reading the back of the local rag on a Sunday FFS!

Mate I listened to the commentry in German on my computer. I'm not basing my theory on what anybody else is saying, it isn entirely my own opinion from what I saw and have been seeing. This idea that once we heard Fiorentina had scored our heads went down is ridiculous and a damning endictment. Didn't we consider thew possibility that they might score a goal, didn't we talk beforehand about the need to keep the tempo high, to press for four goals?

If we didn't then we fecking should have, if we did, then the players didn't take any notice. Either way it don't look good.

If he'd lost the dressing room, players would be coming out putting in their transfer reguests left, right and centre. Players just wouldn't be trying. The players were trying tonight.

Ryan gobshyte Babel is the only player to be bursting his bollox to try and escape. I wonder why that is. If I were Rafa, I'd deny the kunt a move, and then throw him into the reserves and demand he sits there on the bench.
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Postby GOAT » Tue Nov 24, 2009 11:36 pm

From the way rafa scratched his bum in the 2nd half I reckon he's lost the dressing room
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