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Kharhaz wrote:

heimdall wrote:erm did Souness really leave with his head held high??

Yes, I think he did.

Without the advantage of hindsight lets put ourselves in his position. He has taken over from king kenny. The first thing he notes is the age of the squad. At that time kenny dalglish could get the best from any squad, regardless of age or talent, he had a knack for pushing the players to their limits. Souness didnt. So he came from a successful rangers side to take over liverpool. As a player, Souness for me is in the top 3 players ever to play for us. As a manager, easily forgettable, but for reasons that anybody who took over now from rafa would be.

If rafa was sacked or walked, whoever came in would be in a similar position to Souness.

A few decent players but a lot of dead wood. A manager in the mould of dalglish before he quit anfield could get the best out of them, but then in that regard you are talking special, and lets be honest, not even rafa can get the best out of what we currently have.

When Souness took over, we had an ageing team. Good players but ageing. His fault here was to make too many changes too soon. Souness took the attitude (as have many others since his appointment) that what the team needs is youth. Younger players in the team. Dalglish played for the season. He had what he needed, how else can you explain David Speedie being in the squad? Dalglish took one season at a time, since souness we have played for the future, heres a question for those asking for rafa to be sacked and dalglish to take over, if dalglish remained would we ever have had Gerrard, Owen, Rob Jones? (I wont fall into the Robbie Fowler trap !  )

Souness took over Liverpool at a tricky time, and suffered with his health through stress. Souness started the changes, and they continued with the players he signed throughout the eras. When rafa won the champions league, people pointed out the players houillier signed, and before the frenchmans success evans' success and before him....

So yes, I would say Souness did walk out with his head held high, as he was the first to recognise the glaring problems that future managers would face. In the end it got too much for souness, as it did evans, houillier....

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

Sir Roger wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

Lets be realistic here
If Rafa had taken us to say, 8th in the table for a couple of seasons, missing out on the CL, Prem and not even winning the odd cup. Even then I believe there would still be hesitancy to get rid of him because of Istanbul and the FA cup.
He is here for the long haul barring a catastrophe. People need to live with it.

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

We hadn't the money to sack Houllier, but sold Heskey to pay him off. Maybe we could just sell Babel this time ?

Anyway according to Lakes, if we go out tonight we could sell 3 packets of crisps and pay him off. 

Rush Job wrote:

heimdall wrote:

NANNY RED wrote:Erm dont think that was the case Benny mate , certainly not in my eyes

not in mine either, as I recall he was hated by everyone when he resigned, as a manager that is.

To answer your question Ninny I didn't support anyone before Liverpool not in football anyway.

Yeah because your only a carlsberg fan really eh mate.
Oh well not long now.

Hey, I like Standard Chartered as well 

s@int wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

We hadn't the money to sack Houllier, but sold Heskey to pay him off. Maybe we could just sell Babel this time ?

Anyway according to Lakes, if we go out tonight we could sell 3 packets of crisps and pay him off. 

Sold Heskey to pay off Houllier, is that right?

Lando_Griffin wrote:Wouldn't it be poetic if the owners went and brought Moris in and he ended up being utter sh*t?

made in UK wrote:

s@int wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

We hadn't the money to sack Houllier, but sold Heskey to pay him off. Maybe we could just sell Babel this time ?

Anyway according to Lakes, if we go out tonight we could sell 3 packets of crisps and pay him off. 

Sold Heskey to pay off Houllier, is that right?

s@int wrote:

Ciggy wrote:

ConnO'var wrote:I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

The interviewer asked him a question and he gave him an answer, the reason I posted it is people are up in arms that rafa should be sacked immediatley, but rafa wont be sacked because twit & tw@t are skint.

We hadn't the money to sack Houllier, but sold Heskey to pay him off. Maybe we could just sell Babel this time ?

Anyway according to Lakes, if we go out tonight we could sell 3 packets of crisps and pay him off. 

Am I right in thinking that no matter how a football manager is he will always get a big pay day when he gets the sack, that is fecking insane, why do football clubs allow these contracts, it's financial suicide! You could potentially get a manager in, with full control who sells all the best players to say Real Madrid for pennies, starts playing the under 12's in the lague and then when he gets the sack and a huge wedge of cash just goes over to Real Madrid and it's completely legal, astounding, simply astounding. BTW I'm not saying that Rafa is doing that I'm just highlighting how insane the contract is.

ConnO'var wrote:

Sabre wrote:

Ciggy wrote:Well Babel has said in this interview when the reporter asks him will Rafa be sacked, he said no because THE CLUB HAVENT GOT THE MONEY TO SACK HIM

http://www.sportweek.nl/voetbal....ar_Ajax

You can imagine how a committed player like Babel will train knowing that. 

I can't read dutch but if he said that, the little b@stard can go and get himself shot.

The most useless, gutless, lazy piece of filth it has ever been our misfortune to have graced our club.

With one exception...

heimdall wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:Wouldn't it be poetic if the owners went and brought Moris in and he ended up being utter sh*t?

Poetic in the sense that it would prove your point whilst destroying the club, well as long as you're happy Lando. Bloody hell talk about being negative!!

Lando_Griffin wrote:

heimdall wrote:

Lando_Griffin wrote:Wouldn't it be poetic if the owners went and brought Moris in and he ended up being utter sh*t?

Poetic in the sense that it would prove your point whilst destroying the club, well as long as you're happy Lando. Bloody hell talk about being negative!!

But I thought Rafa was the one destroying the club?