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Postby Fauxy » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:07 am

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AQUABOY!
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Postby Dundalk » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:22 am

Whos that with him?
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Postby maguskwt » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:26 am

Dundalk wrote:Whos that with him?

probably his father... features look similar...
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Postby Dundalk » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 am

Looks like a fat Platini :D
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Postby stmichael » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:45 am

Can't wait to see this guy now. What are we expecting from the guy though?

Hopefully he'll provide the ability to spot runs and make passes like Alonso/Gerrard can, although at shorter range. The range thing is mainly due to him being higher up the field than Alonso used to be. I think we can also expect long range shots from him on both feet, and also for him to be in and around the box often.

All in all he will offer an extra goal THREAT, if that manifests as goals its yet to be seen ( he has never been prolific, but maybe the pace will suit his clever style ). The threat simply means he will be another body that opposition realy have to make plans for in attacking areas, wheras Alonso was not, he instead was watched by deeper lying players trying to negate his long passes.

I think (and this will be massive if it does happen), it will give the midfield defined roles, and therefore more stability. At the moment no one knows what Lucas is, should he attack or defend? and that seems to include whoever he partners. Both Gerrard and Mascherano have seemed unsure with regards his positioning. Now the same could be said the other way around and put the error on Mascherano or Gerrards choices, however they both have more defined roles in the team with Gerrard being more attacking and Mascherano more defensive. Hopefully Aquilani, who is much more attack minded than Alonso will do is define the role of whoever he partners ( ideally Mascherano).

Early on, while he gets used to the pace of the premiership and gains fitness, I expect he will at the very least provide an extra body in the box when it comes to attacking moves, and some clever passes that open teams up. I realy feel he will be better for the team than Alonso in many ways, especially in what has been our weakness over recent times of breaking down stubborn defences.

Here's hoping anyway.
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Postby DAV » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:04 pm

firstly i no very little about aquilani, other than he has had alot of injurys. A month and a half into the season and still injured. Before people have a go for me having ago at the new lad (i'm not). i just want to no the following
how did he pass his medical?
and how/why did we agree such an over the top transfer fee?
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Postby DrPepe » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:16 pm

DAV wrote:firstly i no very little about aquilani, other than he has had alot of injurys. A month and a half into the season and still injured. Before people have a go for me having ago at the new lad (i'm not). i just want to no the following
how did he pass his medical?
and how/why did we agree such an over the top transfer fee?

how did he pass his medical?

presumably he didn't, but was ok apart from the obvious

and how/why did we agree such an over the top transfer fee?

do we know what it was? i've heard the only payment we have made is 5m or 10m, some say we paid 20m

the most likely story is a structured deal (a la Johnson) is in place so we only pay full whack if we win sh it loads
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Postby DAV » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:25 pm

thanks for that, the tranfer fee now makes sense, how ever the medical does not. I'm no expert on the internal runnings of a football club, but why would anyone sign a player on a contract for several years who has a long term injury? Surely you would leave it until the player is fit again.
Again this isnt ago a the new guy, more of a question of the way we do business. Personally i would left it while the january transfer window for a re-assessment.
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Postby Bammo » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:36 pm

The payment structure is somewhere back in the depths of this thread but it's staggered and we pay around £16m total + £4m in bonuses depending on trophies etc.

If we had waited until he was fit then his transfer fee would have been much higher. Benitez said that we only got him for a reduced price because of his injury. It'd estimate Roma would have been asking for £25m-£30m for him fully fit.
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Postby DAV » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:41 pm

i appreciate that, (infact no i dont) i'm not saying he's a bad player. but the valuation you gave is way off the mark
ok so one more question.
do you think it was shrewd business?
or a gamble not worth taking?
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Postby JoeTerp » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:00 pm

a medical is not a test to see if you are fit to play tomorrow. I am sure he had a rigorous medical to check to see if his injury was healing the way it should heal, as well as to check the strength on the other areas that he has injured over the years.

We bought Aquilani because we are looking for a 5 year replacement not a 5 week replacement for Xabi Alonso. Over the run of his contract, this injury will seem insignificant.  I hope he can stay fit for most of it.
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:00 pm

Can he play Centre Half cos we need a decent one of them at the moment ??? ???
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:02 pm

Fauxy wrote:Found this post on RAWK, thought it was a good read and interesting coming from somebody who has actually watched him play and not just on youtube..


I've watched Aquilani for two years in Serie A and international football (Italy) so here's my take on the situation:

As we know Alonso is an intelligent distributor of the ball. His weakness (being slow and less agile) was also his strength because he was our thinking man, the brain in our midfield orchestrating our attack from deeper.

Aquilani is very different in that he is faster and able to run into more dangerous positions into the box, and also play quick one-two's around the box. He is also an excellent passer of the ball, but he is not only faster in speed but also with his decision making... has brilliant vision and able to crack open tight defences with pin point short passes. This is an ability we see with players such as Kaka and Fabregas. It's rare for us to get a foreign player with this ability and the only other player we have who's ball control, technique is of similar standard to play outside the box - is Benayoun. Though, Rafa even played Kuyt ahead of Benayoun in that position, he prefers to use Yossi out wide so its encouraging that we have Aquilani with this possibility. Expect him to change positions with Gerrard sometimes.

Aquilani also has a stunning long range shot on him, and is able to hit them quite sweet with both feet and I think the Premier League's style for speed and shooting (think Lampard) would suite Aquilani better. Of course he is never going to be as physically strong as Ballack but there are many lightweight players who have been very effective in England or against English teams.

Many people are concerned with his injuries, but I believe that has been totally misunderstood. The mistake is that people have read the amount of starts he has made and thought he only plays 15-20 matches a season. No. He's played much more because half the time he starts on the bench, since Roma already had established players De Rossi, Totti and Perrotta occupy the same positions he plays in. He had two long term injuries but for a player in his position and for that type of injury, it isn't a serious concern. He could well miss 3 or 4 weeks a season from minor injuries, but so might Gerrard, Torres... and so does the likes of Fabregas - but it would be insane for Arsenal to sell Fabregas because he is lightweight.

Aquilani (together) with Johnson will be crucial to open up teams who park the bus. Aquilani is a clever player who is effective around the box and this is exactly what we needed. He is more mobile, takes a cracking shot and can spot a tight pass in crowded defences. In an ideal world we'd have him AND Alonso. But we have to move on.

Good to see some insight on this guy. He sounds like a very good player but I would reiterate the point that we cannot expect him to come into the team and immediately hit the ground running. It will take him time and it will be weeks/months until we see the best of him.
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Postby DAV » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:03 pm

i agree, i hope he stays fit as well,and hope he does really well for us.
not being a medial man my self, - how can anyone be sure with any long term injury that a full 100% recovery will be made
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Postby DAV » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:05 pm

HacksawJimDuggin, now thats a brilliant read, learnt more from that than anything else i have seen or read.
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