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Postby heimdall » Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:36 pm

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TORRES: WHY I'M LOVING LIVERPOOL LIFE
Steve Hunter 07 September 2009 
  Fernando Torres has spoken of his love for the city of Liverpool and thanked the supporters for making him feel at home. 
El Nino, who is away with Spain this week bidding to secure World Cup qualification, has become the darling of the Kop since his arrival two years ago - and he insists the respect works both ways.
 
"The people are so nice and polite here, and have a lot of respect for players when you are away from the pitch," he said.
 
"That is one of the main things for me. In Spain it was difficult for me to go to restaurants or just walk in the street with my friends.
 
"Now I can do these things and go to the park, walk my dogs and go out for dinner.
 
"It's a really working class city and I like that because I was born in a working class part of Spain.
 
"The people work all week and they go to the ground each weekend to enjoy the team. On the Monday they are working hard again just so they can see their team on the weekend.
 
"It's really special to see supporters with my name on their shirt. I can understand why they would wear a Stevie G or Carra shirt because they are from Liverpool.
 
"I only came here two years ago as a foreign player but they love me like Stevie or Carra. That's amazing and I have to say thank you to them for that."

NO THANK YOU FERNANDO LAD

Is this lad stonned? Surely he cant be talking about Liverpool

When you come from Fuenlabrada, Liverpool might be heaven.

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Typical Fuenlabrada architecture.

That's the upmarket part of Liverpool isn't it.  :wwww  :wwww Just kidding Scousers, Liverpool is actually quite nice.  :D
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:35 pm

EXCLUSIVE: MY STORY FERNANDO TORRES

Fernando Torres arrived in Britain in July 2007 riding a huge wave of expectation - and he didn't disappoint.

The Spanish footballing sensation joined Liverpool for a club record £26.5million and his impact was devastating. He marked his first season with a stunning 33 goals.

Now, the fiercely private footballer, who is known as El Nino, reveals the secrets of his life in England in a book serialised this week by the Mirror.

Torres: El Nino tells the story of his first two years in England and of his determination to leave a lasting legacy at Liverpool.

Today he tells of the problems he faced settling into a foreign country.

Penny Lane must have seemed a million miles away from Madrid to the young Spanish schoolboy.

So too, the Yellow Submarine that Fernando Torres once sang about with his brother as they recited Beatles hits passed down from their father Jose.

Liverpool? He'd never even heard of it. Yet the city was to become his second home. His future. The platform for El Nino's footballing dreams.

And the Beatles back catalogue would help him settle happily on Merseyside.

Fernando recalled: "One of the biggest problems I faced when I first moved to Liverpool was the language barrier. My English was limited to the classes I had taken at school in Fuenlabrada. You think you know a bit of English and you can get by but when you arrive in England you soon realise you haven't got a clue.

"I was told to be honest and say, 'I didn't catch that, could you say it again?' but the truth is I didn't always take that advice. I nearly always just mumbled a 'no'. That's what I did whenever I was in the supermarket and was asked if I wanted 'cash back'. It's not something we have in Spain and I had no idea what it was. It was three months before I knew what they were talking about.


"One afternoon, the way back from having lunch we decided to go shopping. I'd been told about Costco and so we decided to go in and have a look. As we were going through the door, the security guard stopped us. We assumed he was asking for a member's card that we didn't have and so, not being able to explain in English, we just turned and left without a word. The next day I was told if you're not a member you can't shop there.

"Two people were vital during my first few days in the city: Rob and Alan, the English teachers Liverpool laid on for me.

"One of the things they used to make me do was ring people in response to adverts in the paper. You'd get on the phone and ask about a puppy for sale, or that kitten being advertised, or the price of a second hand car. "The idea was to get me used to speaking in English on the phone but at first the idea terrified me so much I would panic when I didn't understand something and find myself having to ring Pepe Reina.

"The car radio became my constant travelling companion. Every morning on my way to training at Melwood, I would listen and try to concentrate on what was being said. At first I only understood a few words but bit by bit I could feel myself improving. As I went past billboards I'd try to translate them and with every passing day I was getting better.

"Some nights, I even dared to pick up the phone and order food. When it turned up, it was nearly always what I wanted.

"In hotels preparing for games I watched films in English with the subtitles on. I carried English Training on my Nintendo DS - language games and exercises.

"I was terrified at the prospect of a phone conversation.

Imagine how much worse it is when that conversation is with the fire service! My smoke alarm kept going off in the house I was renting and one afternoon a call. I just about worked out I got a call. I just about worked out the man on the other end was from the fire station but didn't understand anything else.

"A few minutes later a fire engine turned up at the house, packed with fireman thinking they were being called into action. They came three times in three days before they worked out that the smoke from cooking was causing the alarm to go off. The next time, they called me first to check whether they really did have to set off again."

Of the Beatles, he said: "I like the Beatles a lot. Before I never imagined that I would end up in Liverpool, I listened to their songs. Now I've rediscovered them because listening to them has helped me to pick up the language more quickly. My favourite songs are Penny Lane and Yellow Submarine."

Torres found himself immersed in Liverpool's history, its culture, walking the famous streets, from Princess Dock to Victoria Street, taking time to enjoy Mathew Street and the Beatles tour, though he is still to visit the Cavern Club.

"What can I say about the legendary band, a symbol of the city? There's not much I can add, although it did strike me that - despite what you might imagine - people in Liverpool aren't constantly talking about the Beatles.

"People have enormous respect and admiration for them, because everyone in London is conscious the Beatles and Liverpool FC have taken the name of the city round the world."

Torres, 25, is not your average footballer. There will be no tabloid tales of bad boy behaviour, no sordid nightclub tales or weekly pictures of his latest supercar.

He explained: "I am very much a homely person. I am at my most comfortable and relaxed there. One of my favourite moments each day, matches permitting, is the evening stroll with my wife Olalla and two dogs. They're English bulldogs, a male called Pomo and a female called Llanta. We have found a couple of parks near where we live that are relaxed and peaceful, offering a real escape.

"At home, we spend time playing board games with friends and family. When it comes to Monopoly, Scatergory, or Hotel, there are real battles.

"Sometimes play cards, even though I'm not one for the typical footballer's game like poker or the games played with a 40-card Spanish deck, like mus or pocha. But I do enjoy playing brisca and tute, Spanish games similar to trumps.

"Television is an alternative and I like to be up to date with what's going on in the world, and not just the sports news. My favourite programmes are The Dog Whisperer and Super Nanny.

"I love Stanley Park, the one that divides Anfield and Goodison and which I got to know when I went to film the Spanish No 9 advert for Nike there. I've also been to Chester, and to Formby on the coast where I like to devour a Flake 99, with raspberry sauce.

"We have adapted perfectly to Liverpool but when it comes to eating we still follow a Spanish timetable.

"Eating at English times still feels too early so we started arranging barbecues.

"A few of us got together along with Mikel Arteta from Everton. One Sunday we started eating in the garden, it was a sunny day with the odd cloud and we didn't think anything of it until the heavens opened and it started snowing.

"Yes, snowing! Since then, the slightest sign of bad weather and we set up in the garage instead.

"During my first few months I seemed to be permanently surrounded by hammers, screwdrivers, pliers and spanners as I discovered a new hobby: putting together furniture. In Spain I hadn't put together a single wardrobe but here I had to get on and do it or the box would gather dust. Sometimes, I'd end up getting so irritated I'd crawl to bed shattered but with the work done.

"My determination to finish the job off meant that one night in 2007 I didn't finish until the small hours. I had come home in a bad mood after we had lost 1-0 at home to Olympic Marseilles in the Champions League. I decided the best way to work the frustration out of my system was to put together two pieces of furniture for the living room. By the time I had finished it was 4am.

"I haven't experienced Liverpool's nightlife. I have been out a couple of times to eat after Champions League matches and you can see there's a lot going on. No one seems to wear a coat. Everyone is done up and dressed to impress but few wrap up warm, even though the temperature can't be much above freezing.

" I would like to watch a game in the pub.

"Everyone tells me about the passion with which fans follow matches between pints."
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:36 pm

Three times his mobile phone rang with an English number. Three times he ignored it.

Eventually curiosity got the better of Fernando Torres and he returned the call. There was no answer. He jested to his wife Olalla: ‘That’ll be Benitez wanting to sign me!’ How right he was.

He said: “I don’t pick up the phone if I don’t recognise the number. Whoever it was had been very insistent – and that evening, a Sunday night, I rang back. There was no answer but a couple of seconds later, whoever it was returned the call.

“’Hello Fernando’ said a Spanish voice at the other end, ‘do you know who this is?’ ‘No’ I replied. ‘You mean, you’d ring a random English number when you don’t even know who it is?’ the voice said. ‘Not normally, no,’ I said, ‘but I’ve had three calls from this number and I want to know who it is.’ ‘It’s Rafa Benitez.’

“There wasn’t much conversation – not from me, at least. My responses were to the point, short and cold. Too cold. Off hand. I’m amazed he didn’t tell me to get lost.

“My mind was racing, trying to place the voice, to decide if it really was Benitez. But how should I know when I had never spoken to him before? He didn’t stop talking. He explained what his plans were and he told me that he had decided that I was the player he wanted to be Liverpool’s centre-forward. He needed to know if I was committed enough to the idea for him to fight for my signature and start negotiating with Atletico Madrid.

“I didn’t know what to think; my mind wasn’t clear, it was spinning. I was thinking that maybe it was a mate of mine fooling around or some impersonator trying to catch me out.

“ I thought I might be falling victim to another bad taste joke, like Jose Antonio Reyes when someone from a radio station rang him pretending to be the Real Madrid’s vice president Emilio Butragueno while he was still at Arsenal and he got himself in all sorts of trouble by admitting to ‘Butragueno’ that he would love to join Madrid.

“Almost all I managed to say was ‘Speak to Miguel Angel Gill, Atletico’s owner, and when the leagues over I’ll think about my future.”

Benitez did indeed pursue their conversation. He ordered the Anfield hierarchy to secure Torres signature and despite Atletico Madrid’s attempts to persuade him to stay a £26.5 million deal was eventually thrashed out.

He didn’t have to do much convincing of the player. Torres had long been fascinated with Benitez as a manager. He had watched him guide unfancied Valencia to two La Liga titles and UEFA Cup triumph. Only after working with him did he realise the secrets behind Benitez success.

The picture he paints of Benitez is fascinating. A man totally consumed by football. Unable or unwilling to converse with his players about anything other than football - as he proved to Torres the day after Liverpool’s magnificent win over Chelsea in .

He added: “I’m doing up my boots ready to head out to the training pitch when the manager Rafa Benitez comes over. During the previous few days the papers have been full of stories about me becoming a father. ‘Congratulations Fernando,’ Rafa says. ‘Thanks boss,’ I reply.

“I assumed that he was congratulating me on the pregnancy and I paused, expecting the obvious next question: How’s the mother? Or: Will it be a girl of a boy? I was wrong. I’d forgotten the man standing in front of me was a coach who thinks about football 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

‘Just as we’d anticipated, attacking the near post really paid off yesterday’ he said. ‘You got ahead of the defender into that space we talked about, which gave you an advantage and allowed you to beat Cech with a header. It was a good pass from Fabio but you worked it well. Congratulations.’ And with that Rafa turned and headed out for training.

“Rafa Benitez, football coach. A football coach through and through. A man so absolutely dedicated to a difficult, demanding and often ungrateful profession.

“Benitez is a manager who knows how to get the best out of his players. He knows how to choose the right players for his system, players who fit his philosophy for the team and the squad. He builds a strong group and helps to improve the individual within it. He pushes you so hard that you end up playing at 120 per cent of your potential. Then he pushes you some more. Once he has got you playing at your very peak, he finds a way to fit all the pieces together for maximum effect.

“Rafa lives football 24 hours a day. He’s meticulous and so insistent on the small details that it can be hard to deal with. He’s so on top of you that a lot of the time he’s on the pitch reminding you of your mistakes the second the game is over, while he normally ignores the things you did well.

“He encourages you with criticism, pushing you to improve every day. If you can’t handle that, it can damage your self-esteem, but if you can handle it, it pushes you on. He provides you with information and detail you didn’t even know about and hadn’t even noticed but that help you get better. He lays great store by the geometry of football: where you are in relation to the ball, if you’re half a metre further forward or half a metre further back...The work you do and the improvements that come with it gives you confidence. So does he.

“Rafa likes to encourage dialogue. He doesn’t want to just show us a video, talk on his own and then jump on the bus to go to the ground. He asks the players for their opinion and tries to involve them in the debate over what we should do. Sometimes he even interrogates you about your role or some move you’re supposed to carry out.

“Sometimes I feel like I’m back being a schoolboy in Fuenlabrada with a teacher testing me on what he’s just taught us. I remember that during one of the first team talks I was involved in he asked us, in a way, what the key to winning the game was. It was my turn to answer. I couldn’t think of anything. I was racking my brain but drawing blanks when Yossi Benayoun rescued me with a whisper in my ear: ‘Pass’

“During team talks you realise just how closely Benitez studies the opposition. He likes to tell us the line-up when we get to the dressing room but even before that he has given a tactical lesson in how the other team plays. Even though he doesn’t want us to know what team, we’re going to play, he insists on us knowing what team the opposition will play.

“I honestly don’t think I have ever had a conversation with Benitez that hasn’t been about football. That’s just the way he is.”
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Postby GYBS » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:37 pm

Fernando was a boy of four kicking a ball in his back yard as the Hillsborough tragedy unfolded.

The impact of that day and the 96 lives lost was fully brought home to him at the memorial service for the 20th anniversary on April 15 this year.

He said: "I could hardly believe what I was seeing. The stadium was almost full. The Kop was packed.

"The reception we got at Anfield gave me goose bumps. All of our fans stood and gave us an ovation that seemed to go on for ages. The memorial for those who lost their lives sent a shiver through me. It was a tragedy provoked by negligence and one for which there still hasn't been an explanation.

"The families of the dead are still demanding justice. For many the tears are still tears of anger.

"The unity between players and fans comes in part from having that terrible experience together.

"Whenever there is a minute's silence in England's football stadiums it is impeccably observed. It is a minute that goes straight to the heart. A tear puncturing the silence. Can you imagine the Atletico Madrid anthem being listened to in Real Madrid's stadium?

"There were Everton fans at Anfield on that anniversary day who listened in respectful silence. It could only happen in England.

"If there is one thing that has really stood out for me since I've been in England, it's the huge human tide of Liverpool fans.

"Every player dreams of fans like that. Here at Anfield we've got them."




"You can only ever be a legend in someone’s mind. So long as you never become a legend in your own, there’s no problem. People want to pigeon-hole you, Fernando: they want to label you, rank you, judge you and compare you to others. But all that really matters is that you are yourself."

Those were the words uttered to Fernando Torres just a few days after he had become Liverpool’s record signing. His new mentor? The King of the Kop; Kenny Dalglish.

The very fact that Torres, a new arrival from Spain was privileged to spend time with arguably the club’s greatest player of all time was not lost on the youngster.

And the advice, the inspiration, the invaluable experience gained from those moments with Dalglish will never be forgotten by the striker bidding to carve his place in British footballing history.

He said: “Dalglish told me that we’re the ones who make people’s dreams come true. The fans can’t play, so they live their dreams through us.

“There’s nothing better than listening to the man who fans consider to be the greatest Liverpool player of all time: Kenny Dalglish. Kenny and I are not the same: he is the greatest player of all, I was just a new arrival but he immediately put me at ease."

Dalglish has taken a special interest in Torres. The symmetry between the two is there for all to see and while Torres is right, after two seasons it is ridiculous to mention him in the same breath as King Kenny, the start he has made at Anfield suggests it will only be a matter of time.

There is more to Torres than his performances on the pitch. Dalglish has been impressed with the way he has immersed himself in the history and tradition, the values that are so important to Liverpool Football Club and its fans.

Dalglish and Torres met privately and spent time together inside a deserted Anfield. Their attention turned towards the Kop and, one of Dalglish biggest regrets.

Torres added: “Kenny revealed something that surprises me: ‘I always wanted to go on the Kop, but I never could,’ he said. ‘The only time I have ever been on the Kop is when the stadium has been empty. It’s funny, my son has been there but I haven’t. A friend of mine took him and looked after him, he spent the game with him on the Kop. He lived a dream that I couldn’t.’

“Like Kenny, I’ve only been on the Kop when it was empty. I would love to think that when I retire it will be impossible for me to watch a game from the Kop too. That would mean I had achieved something great.

“Dalglish told me that the key to Liverpool’s success was the harmony within the team. ‘No team has ever been successful without a good atmosphere in the dressing room’ he said. ‘They don’t have to go out for drinks together or be best friends but having a good group is very important. We had a great dressing room, we were really united. Even now there are six or seven of us that are still close.'

“During that meeting we talked about football. I talked about the fact that there are games when things don’t go for you but that I will never hide. I always want the ball, even if I’m having a bad day. Liverpool’s legendary number 7 said he was the same. ‘Of course you want the ball. You have to keep going. As a striker, you miss more chances than you score. The goals aren’t what matter most; what matters most are the chances you miss. The more you miss, the closer you are to the next one you’re going to score. You have to think like that: if you don’t have the courage to develop that kind of attitude you won’t make it at this level.'

“I learned so much from my time with Kenny. I really like him. He’s a normal person who’s very accessible. He says he doesn’t feel like a legend but that’s exactly what he is. The fact that he has stayed so normal really struck me.

“I can’t be compared to him but I feel proud to have been able to speak to him for so long. It was a real honour for him to have given up his time to talk to me. Meeting Kenny has made me even more hungry for success, even more determined to work hard and maybe, just maybe, see if one day I can compare myself with him.

“I’ll never forget the last piece of advice he gave me, as we were leaving the restaurant. Just as he went out of the door, the greatest player in the history of Liverpool turned to me and said: ‘Fernando, Liverpool is a special club with special fans. They love those players who love wearing their shirt. But they’re not stupid: they know when players mean it and when they don’t; they know when it’s just for show – when a player kisses the badge and all that. They love to identify themselves with the players out on the pitch and I think they’re going to identify with you very, very easily.’

"What an honour.”
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Postby RedBlood » Wed Sep 16, 2009 5:43 pm

i love nando but how interrersting can a footballers book be?
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Postby tubby » Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:39 pm

He looks dead tired. Serves him right for trying to be Mr Universe again this summer. Sounds a bit selfish on my part but I hope Spain don't make it out of their group come the world cup, simply so he can finally have a summer of rest.
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Postby stmichael » Thu Sep 17, 2009 12:22 am

bavlondon wrote:He looks dead tired.

I blame his missus. Ever since she got up the duff and had a kid Nando hasn't been the same player. :angry:  :D

In all seriousness though he's been frustrating me recently. I just wish he'd play with his head up more and be aware of what's around him at times. He seems to be constantly running into defenders all the time.
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Postby adamnbarrett » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:17 pm

He could be tired but I think it's frustration.

He is fed up, like we are over the fact we have invested NOTHING in the squad.

Remember when he said something along the lines of "signing Villa, Silva or Mata would win us the league" over the summer?

We signed none of them.

He's frustrated over it, just like we are.

That's my take on it anyway.
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Postby Greavesie » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:26 pm

adamnbarrett wrote:He could be tired but I think it's frustration.

He is fed up, like we are over the fact we have invested NOTHING in the squad.

Remember when he said something along the lines of "signing Villa, Silva or Mata would win us the league" over the summer?

We signed none of them.

He's frustrated over it, just like we are.

That's my take on it anyway.

so long as he doesnt want to leave he can feel how he bloody well wants  :D
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Postby Ben Patrick » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:33 pm

I also dont think its a question of fitness, he missed loads of last season and didnt play the whole of the summer, they brought him off alot in the confeds cup.
Also he started pre-season later.

It does seem more whats going on in his head to me, like he has lost a bit of the determination that has served him so well in the first two seasons.
He is usually alot stronger chasing balls over the top but i have seen him losing out in 50-50's this season. Challenges where he usually barges the opposing defender away.

Adam's idea could be right, we havent invested what we should have to kick on, he has probably lost a couple of mates who were good players as well.

Lets hope he gets his head on it soon though as Chelsea and united are coming up soon and to win these games we need our best players firing.
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:47 pm

stmichael wrote:
bavlondon wrote:He looks dead tired.

I blame his missus. Ever since she got up the duff and had a kid Nando hasn't been the same player. :angry:  :D

In all seriousness though he's been frustrating me recently. I just wish he'd play with his head up more and be aware of what's around him at times. He seems to be constantly running into defenders all the time.

I know you're joking mate, but I think we should give serious consideration to this point.

He's a new dad, probably isn't as well rested at home as he was last season.  Also being a new dad in a foreign country where English isn't you or your partner's language can't be easy, even with the club inevitably helping them out.

We all have to remember that these guys are human beings, not robots.  The same things that put pressure on us in our personal lives will put pressure on them and affect their performance at work.

Like Mascherano though, Torres will be back firing on all cylinders soon, they're simply too good to stay in this rut for long.
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Postby heimdall » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:55 pm

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bavlondon wrote:He looks dead tired.

I blame his missus. Ever since she got up the duff and had a kid Nando hasn't been the same player. :angry:  :D

In all seriousness though he's been frustrating me recently. I just wish he'd play with his head up more and be aware of what's around him at times. He seems to be constantly running into defenders all the time.

I know you're joking mate, but I think we should give serious consideration to this point.

He's a new dad, probably isn't as well rested at home as he was last season.  Also being a new dad in a foreign country where English isn't you or your partner's language can't be easy, even with the club inevitably helping them out.

We all have to remember that these guys are human beings, not robots.  The same things that put pressure on us in our personal lives will put pressure on them and affect their performance at work.

Like Mascherano though, Torres will be back firing on all cylinders soon, they're simply too good to stay in this rut for long.

Torres I think will come roaring back, not so sure about Mascha, he seems to have an attitude problem. To be honest I've never really liked Mascha as a person, good player when on form though.
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Postby GYBS » Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:06 pm

Never liked him as a person ???

Do you know him then as a person ?
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Postby JC_81 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:27 pm

GYBS wrote:Never liked him as a person ???

Do you know him then as a person ?

:laugh:

I know.  Some people on here go on like they actually know these players.  It's pathetic.

Never liked him as a person :laugh:
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Postby HacksawJimDuggin » Thu Sep 17, 2009 6:45 pm

Rafa needs to be very careful with Torres (and Gerrard) over the coming few weeks. Both looked dead on their feet on Wednesday night and I think they both need a rest. With Mascha back for the game on Saturday and Yossi playing really well could Rafa not rest both at the same time. Play Kuyt as a central striker, Yossi off him and bring Babel into right midfield?

Just a thought. Not taking West Ham lightly but both looked absolutely cooked last night and in need of a game or 2 off.
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