by johnsouthwales » Tue May 19, 2009 4:59 pm
i dont like the new stadium. maybe i get used to it one day. i got a bad omen about it. the kops the wrong way round to start with.
i didnt look at it this way before, no wonder they don't want to call the stadium anfield cos it means that they lose the stadium sponsorship cash! 100m for ten years? we get 80m for ten years with a shirt sponsor never mind the ground.. that money should last around 3-4 seasons worth for transfers and that means we spent the cash and not even halfway through.
i reckon they got it in the wrong place.
lmao have u seen the steve martin film the jerk?? when the truck drove off pulling the church? imagine doing that with the anfield and just literally drag it straight across the road and youd have the kop grandstand next to the pavement on anfield road itself. push it in a bit to get some space and a concourse. easy innit.. and they can still call it anfield road as a business address cos its ermm still is on anfield road and not in the middle of stanley park and legetimately call it anfield.
if we only knew in 1991 and 1994 what was going to happen. they could have gone a bit higher on the centenary stand and done a fuller job instead of just adding onto the kemlyn. that could have brought in an extra 1000-2000.
gone a bit higher on the kopgrandstand in 1994 and slightly closer to the pitch, bit wider from half way up instead of square and flush like how the old kop used to be with wings. could have rought in another 1000 or two. but the main stand would have needed some alteration and it would have been a good idea to have worked on that before the kop. that could have pushed anfield to 47,500 to 49,500 plus the mainstand extension. even if the mainstand wasnt worked on, would 49,000 been enough?
anfield in 1978 had 52,318 capacity. biggest capacity i had been in was 51,092 against spurs november 1979. manutds ground held 58,500 .. arsenal had 60,000 ... in competative terms so to speak, we were 6-8thousand behind. so a smaller ground won more trophies..
what we did was extended the kemlyn to become the centenary stand and had match days when work was halted. manutd closed stretford end completely for the season, sacrificing their income for a season. and because of their location to start with, didnt have any prevention of expansion or planning restrictions.
they now got 77,000 which is awesome, even though the top tier view is miniscule. lol, i had vertigo when i had a seat for the upper centenary stand a while back. what manutd did recently was the quadangles. now arsenal have up sticks to more across the road. their new ground is more or less what the old highbury was in capacity.
do we really need 70,000? remember in the mid 80s when attendances were low? and you could stand on the kop for two pound. but it was the seats that suffered rather than the kop. and if i remember right, main stand seats were about a pound fifty more expensive than the kop enterance. wasn't there a crowd of 10,500 at one time? have to check the old programmes for that one. i remember the european cup tie against oulun palloseera sept 1981, hardly anyone in the kemlyn stands, and the other game i went to against cska sofia march 1981, most of the kemlyn was empty. lots of matches in the mid 80's were like this, and if i also remember right, some matches in 1995 were half full centenary. could lay down and stretch legs out on the lower tier.
if the demand for tickets as they have always been exceeded as usual, and if 10,000 people are waiting for 2 years for season tickets, what happens when another 10,000 in 5 years time come onto the scene after the 60,000 stadium gets built? how many postal applications get declined every home match? it'll be never ending
42,000 home supporters at present. say 5,000 postal applications get turned down. does 5,000 justify 60,000 or 63,000? and like it has been said, with a bigger stadium can actually result in a decrease in season tickets to become a pick and choose which games they go to situation. the only solution to fill the 60,000 will be 42,000 plus the 5,000 who can't get tickets, 3,000 for the visting supporters, put the 10,000 waiting for season tickets straight in, and an extra 3,000 tickets available onto credit credit/debit card sales.
i remember paying a pound to stand on the kop. then it went uo to one pound ten.. in 1988-89, you could stand on the kop for £3.50, £4 in 1989-90.
1994 it was £14 for a seat on the kopgrandstand, and if i remember right, LFC said they won't be putting up price. and if there were, they'd be minimal..
today prices have literally shot through the roof.. for a seat, i'd have to pay approx 20% of income for a seat. if i was taking home £400, then a seat will be 10%.. do you know many who take home £400 a week? in 1994, a kopgrandstand seat was 10% of pay. 1989, kop enterance was about 3% of income. if seats went up a pound a year since 1994, kopgrandstand would be now £28 a match for this season.
if u were unemployed in the early 80's, you could go and watch a match, a pound or two pound still equated to around 5% of income. and many people did. i doubt very much if someone who is unemployed these days can afford a seat at todays prices on £60.50 a week jsa, which makes that around 66% of income.
not only unemployed are affected, part time and low incomes get hammered. even someone on a part time wage is affected, take home £100 its 40%. take home £200 and its around 20% of income.
it'll be very interesting what the projected ticket prices will be for the new stadium. we shall wait and see
and only some stupid moron willing to pump up a fortune for 49 % of the club getting no actual say, because Hicks would never allow it, could save us.
