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tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

DrPepe wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Bammo wrote:It seems to be that most people on here blame the "rant" and selling Keane as why we lost points in January.

Absolute myth. It was a coincidence.

What has Rafa's rant got to do with Lucas giving away a ridiculous penalty in the last 10 minutes away at Wigan when we were 1-0 up and cruising? Also the rant didn't make Yossi give away a completely needless free kick and skrtel lose his man for Cahill's equaliser against Everton.

It was blown out of all proportion by the media and it's laughable. It wasn't even a rant ffs. Fergusons pop at Rafa last week was a rant. His veins were almost popping out of his head but becuse it's Fergie it's merely "mind games".

Correct.

The ill-advised rant (albeit silly) had nothing to do with our losing the season...and yes, to all intents and purposes Liverpool are not going to win league (bar a Utd fuck up).

Liverpool squandered a premiership lead and the potential to break free and clear, because the tactics employed were far too cautious and in the end, negative. Coupled with some dodgy decisions by Benitez and a truly redundant and generally ineffectual substitution policy...that is what has cost us the league.

I've no doubt that if we had switched to the attacking football we've been playing for the last few weeks, we'd have probably won the damn thing by now, or at least be sitting a few points clear.

our ability to gain points after going behind (11games, 22pts) and the number of points gained from games where we're drawing at HT(19 games, 39pts) suggests that our subs, or tactical changes (plus our fitness i imagine) are highly effectual


It's the starting line ups that it all up 

Eh, no it doesn't. Taking Robbie Keane off with a half hour to go and subbing Babel for Riera has done fuck all for Liverpool in terms of winning games...or coming back from a goal down.

so someone shows you stats that prove we have come from behind many times to win games and also turned half time draws into wins and you still deny it ? the prrof is there - how many times have we won games late on after half time and after changes have been made ? bloody plenty .

Stop talking GYBS.

Rafa's sub policy has done nothing this year.

Bring on Ryan Babel for Albert Riera on 60 minutes has won us matches?

Bollox.

Judge wrote:ive seen manure and chelsea carve out winners against the so called ''park the bus'' teams

it can be done, and we should capitalise on that way of playing

Judge wrote:ive seen manure and chelsea carve out winners against the so called ''park the bus'' teams

it can be done, and we should capitalise on that way of playing

bunglemark2 wrote:Sooooooo....if the opposition puts 11 players behind the ball....then we, eh, continue the same approach ?
Methinks if that's what they're doing for 75-80 mins of the game, then we try an alternative approach....quick 1-2 football; the aerial approach; a bit of theatrics....WHATEVER WORKS to get a goal....

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

DrPepe wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Bammo wrote:It seems to be that most people on here blame the "rant" and selling Keane as why we lost points in January.

Absolute myth. It was a coincidence.

What has Rafa's rant got to do with Lucas giving away a ridiculous penalty in the last 10 minutes away at Wigan when we were 1-0 up and cruising? Also the rant didn't make Yossi give away a completely needless free kick and skrtel lose his man for Cahill's equaliser against Everton.

It was blown out of all proportion by the media and it's laughable. It wasn't even a rant ffs. Fergusons pop at Rafa last week was a rant. His veins were almost popping out of his head but becuse it's Fergie it's merely "mind games".

Correct.

The ill-advised rant (albeit silly) had nothing to do with our losing the season...and yes, to all intents and purposes Liverpool are not going to win league (bar a Utd fuck up).

Liverpool squandered a premiership lead and the potential to break free and clear, because the tactics employed were far too cautious and in the end, negative. Coupled with some dodgy decisions by Benitez and a truly redundant and generally ineffectual substitution policy...that is what has cost us the league.

I've no doubt that if we had switched to the attacking football we've been playing for the last few weeks, we'd have probably won the damn thing by now, or at least be sitting a few points clear.

our ability to gain points after going behind (11games, 22pts) and the number of points gained from games where we're drawing at HT(19 games, 39pts) suggests that our subs, or tactical changes (plus our fitness i imagine) are highly effectual


It's the starting line ups that it all up 

Eh, no it doesn't. Taking Robbie Keane off with a half hour to go and subbing Babel for Riera has done fuck all for Liverpool in terms of winning games...or coming back from a goal down.

so someone shows you stats that prove we have come from behind many times to win games and also turned half time draws into wins and you still deny it ? the prrof is there - how many times have we won games late on after half time and after changes have been made ? bloody plenty .

Stop talking GYBS.

Rafa's sub policy has done nothing this year.

Bring on Ryan Babel for Albert Riera on 60 minutes has won us matches?

Bollox.

but pepe has just shown you the stats - 22 points gained from coming from behind - 39 points gained from turning draws into wins from half time . im sure i remeber keane going off a few times and then us going on to win the game - man city sticks in my mind - then there was the late goals against pompey that happened after changes then there was the babel winner against man utd after he came on - shall we keep going ??

Stop talking shit.

There no stats to "prove" that subbing Babel for Riera has won Liverpool games.

It simply shows that Liverpool can come from behind and nick a goal.

Fucking hell 

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

GYBS wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

DrPepe wrote:

tonyeh wrote:

stmichael wrote:

Bammo wrote:It seems to be that most people on here blame the "rant" and selling Keane as why we lost points in January.

Absolute myth. It was a coincidence.

What has Rafa's rant got to do with Lucas giving away a ridiculous penalty in the last 10 minutes away at Wigan when we were 1-0 up and cruising? Also the rant didn't make Yossi give away a completely needless free kick and skrtel lose his man for Cahill's equaliser against Everton.

It was blown out of all proportion by the media and it's laughable. It wasn't even a rant ffs. Fergusons pop at Rafa last week was a rant. His veins were almost popping out of his head but becuse it's Fergie it's merely "mind games".

Correct.

The ill-advised rant (albeit silly) had nothing to do with our losing the season...and yes, to all intents and purposes Liverpool are not going to win league (bar a Utd fuck up).

Liverpool squandered a premiership lead and the potential to break free and clear, because the tactics employed were far too cautious and in the end, negative. Coupled with some dodgy decisions by Benitez and a truly redundant and generally ineffectual substitution policy...that is what has cost us the league.

I've no doubt that if we had switched to the attacking football we've been playing for the last few weeks, we'd have probably won the damn thing by now, or at least be sitting a few points clear.

our ability to gain points after going behind (11games, 22pts) and the number of points gained from games where we're drawing at HT(19 games, 39pts) suggests that our subs, or tactical changes (plus our fitness i imagine) are highly effectual


It's the starting line ups that it all up 

Eh, no it doesn't. Taking Robbie Keane off with a half hour to go and subbing Babel for Riera has done fuck all for Liverpool in terms of winning games...or coming back from a goal down.

so someone shows you stats that prove we have come from behind many times to win games and also turned half time draws into wins and you still deny it ? the prrof is there - how many times have we won games late on after half time and after changes have been made ? bloody plenty .

Stop talking GYBS.

Rafa's sub policy has done nothing this year.

Bring on Ryan Babel for Albert Riera on 60 minutes has won us matches?

Bollox.

but pepe has just shown you the stats - 22 points gained from coming from behind - 39 points gained from turning draws into wins from half time . im sure i remeber keane going off a few times and then us going on to win the game - man city sticks in my mind - then there was the late goals against pompey that happened after changes then there was the babel winner against man utd after he came on - shall we keep going ??

Stop talking shit.

There no stats to "prove" that subbing Babel for Riera has won Liverpool games.

It simply shows that Liverpool can come from behind and nick a goal.

Fucking hell 

did babel not score the winner against the mancs 

isnt babel part of that team that comes back and wins games ?

Judge wrote:tonyeh, as much as i respect your opinion, please keep the profanity to a minimum, unless its said in jest