Bill shankly's last interview - Fantastic read

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Postby metalhead » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:04 pm

Shank's interview

I wasn't born during the Shankly days, but I did read about him and read about his football philosophy. Maybe you old timers :D appreciate him more than me because you've been in those days where he built Liverpool from scratch.

I loved his sentence on Melwood, Melwood wouldn't be the same today if Shankly wasn't the manager back then.

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Postby Sabre » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:25 pm

Fantastic read indeed Metalhead. Thank you for that.

That piece of interview is jewelry. It's rare that a manager these days talks so sincerely, like an open book, about how to train. There's always an aura of secretism surrounding the managers. En England, there's no direct access to the training sessions for the fans.

The first bit, about the training, shows a Shankly that was years ahead of his football times. It shows a man that might not have an university degree, but has a tremendous knowledge about players, and how they react to training. The sweating thing for instance, it's pure experience.

The match preparation part is pure gold too.

After all the training was complete on Fridays, we always had a talk about the impending game. All the players and subs attended. One of the staff would have watched the opposition and would bring their report in. All I wanted to know was the formation. Was it 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever. And did any of the opposing players have any little characteristics we might want to stifle? I never ever discussed the opposition at length. The last thing you want to do is build up your opponents and frighten your own players. We might have been playing Manchester United that weekend, but I wasn't going to be singing the praises of the opposition. I can remember overhearing one of the lads coming out of a meeting and saying: 'Are Best, Law and Charlton not playing?' That made me smile. In the main, we were only concerned about us and our collective approach. The message was: 'Keep everything simple. Be patient, even it takes 89 minutes to score.' The number of times we won a match at the death was unbelievable. And when you sneak one like that, it's heartbreaking for the opposition.


This is probably the foundations of posession football.

Yes, it's better to keep it simple that doing something clever.

Interesting aswell what was Shankly's view about beating rivals in the last breaths of the game. It does kill mentally the opposition. "All that hard work for nothing", it's hard to be accepted by the mind.

I always tried to have a joke up my sleeve to boost our lads and knock down the opposition. We took our football seriously, but we always tried to get a laugh out of the team talks. And I would always keep a few bombs for Saturday. I might say to the old guy on the Anfield door: 'Here's a box af toilet rolls. Hand them to the opposition when they come through the door.' Often I'd say it just as our opponents were walking in. We didn't lose many, but when we did we were always ready to learn. We were always confident, but we were never over-confident. Being cocky is a form of ignorance. It means you are talking too much and if you are guilty of that, an opponent will bring you down to earth.


More gold. Pure gold.

On the art of football

A football match is a like a relay race. We realised at Liverpool that you can score a goal by playing from the back. We learned this through playing the Latins in Europe. It might be cat and mouse for a while, waiting for that opening to appear. It's all very simple really, but it's effective. Improvisation! If your players can improvise and adjust to what's happening, you've got a chance. It's vital you conserve energy, making the opposition do all the chasing. When you play over 60 games a season you can't afford to be running flat out all the time.

The system we devised was designed to confuse the opposition. And it was economical. You want everyone to do their share. The important thing is that everyone can control the ball and do the basic things. It's control and pass - control and pass. If you delay, the opposition is all behind the ball. So you are looking for somebody who can control it instantly and give a forward pass. And that gives you more space. You see some teams playing and it seems as nobody wants the ball. They turn their back on on each other. But at Liverpool, there is always somebody to help you. That's why Kenny Dalglish was an instant success. He came to a club and he had choices. Kenny was the kind of player who could exploit that kind of thing to the full.

So this is the secret. Get it. Give an early pass. Switch the ball around. You might not seem to be getting very far, but the opposition pattern is changing. And the space opens up for the final pass. All the players must understand that when they've delivered a pass, you've only just started. You have to back up and look to help somebody else.


Again, the ABC of posession football, years ahead in time. A football pioneer.

He knows that having a team after your balls tires the body, but also the mind. This is very related to the first idea of "not try to be clever" football.

Great read from the first word to the last, MH.
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Postby GYBS » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:35 pm

Great Read from the great man

this bit reminds me of a certain portugese manager

Being cocky is a form of ignorance. It means you are talking too much and if you are guilty of that, an opponent will bring you down to earth

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Postby Sabre » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:42 pm

That portuguese manager shouldn't stain this thread about a great football man. You don't need to put that portuguese manager under the light of a true great to know he has no class. We might discuss that in the Mourinho thread, but on second thought, I couldn't be ársed.

Shankly, what a man. :)
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Postby GYBS » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:47 pm

What a man indeed - Was reading thommos book and he mentioned Shanks coming down to training every day after he retired cause he said he just loved watching the players just play football and was gutted when he realised he had to let Bob do it his own way and just suddenly stopped going to watch .
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Postby Sabre » Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:53 pm

That's another sign of love to the club. His selfishness pushed him to have first hand info about the club he loved, but he realised his shadow could be too long if he was at the training, and stopped going to watch. A true gent.
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Postby metalhead » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:04 pm

Actually, his talk on possession football and having ball control reminds me of Stu telling us that if you can't pass or control a ball your ''sh!te'' :D
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Postby GYBS » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:09 pm

The question is - would he be as succesfull in these times ? same with Bob ?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:16 pm

he didn't just decide to stop coming to melwood, he was told not to come so he used to go to bellfield to train after that
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Postby GYBS » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:19 pm

Is that in his book ?
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:24 pm

it's in print many times. he was interfering with paisley being manager so the club told him to stop coming to melwood, after that he trained to keep fit at evertons training ground. it was a source of bitterness for shankly by all accounts
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Postby GRAHAM01 » Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:10 pm

a class man who was lost when he finished

as he wandered around melwood in those later days i'm sure if someone had asked him to come back? he would have?
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Postby LegBarnes » Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:25 pm

I didn't like him tbh he didn't Rotate alot and reallt didn't understand the 4-3-2-1 formation to my liking.






























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Tbh the guy was just a fantastic bloke let alone a manager could have done well in any era.
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Postby account deleted by request » Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:31 pm

peewee wrote:he didn't just decide to stop coming to melwood, he was told not to come so he used to go to bellfield to train after that

Spot on peewee, not sure if its in Shankly's book, but its definately in Paisley's.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:59 am

Shankly regretted resigning from Liverpool and began watching training sessions at Melwood. The board were unhappy that Shankly was not allowing new manager Bob Paisley to settle into the management role. Phil Thompson even claims that at Melwood Shankly was still called "boss" while Paisley was known as "Bob". Ronnie Moran claimed things "began to get a bit awkward". Liverpool striker Kevin Keegan states that Liverpool "didn't get it wrong very often but they did that time" and believed that Shankly should have been placed on the board of directors.
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