Bill shankly

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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Dec 01, 2009 12:32 pm

50 Years ago the great man joined the club and laid the foundations for our great club .

Its Shankly week on OS

Why does the mere mention of Liverpool Football Club strike fear into some of the greatest names in the world game?
Is it because of the famous Spion Kop and the mythical spirit of Anfield's 12th man?

Or is it the trophy-laden history that has seen the likes of Emlyn Hughes, Kevin Keegan, Kenny Dalglish and Steven Gerrard secure glory both home and abroad?

The answer, of course is never as simple as that, but one thing is certain; without the arrival of one man in particular the incredible success story of the past 50 years would never have made its way onto the Anfield scriptures.

In December 1959, a Liverpool side languishing in the doldrums of the Second Division moved to install Huddersfield Town's Bill Shankly as their new man in the dugout.

The Scot would go on to have the type of impact that has quite rightly immortalised him as what many still believe him to be to this day; the greatest manager the club has ever seen.

Indeed, it says much about Shankly's standing in the game, that legends of the past have been eager to recall their memories of one of the sport's great icons as Liverpool Football Club celebrates the 50th anniversary of his Anfield arrival - both online and on LFC TV.

The website has put together an extensive range of articles, from the views of those who knew him best through to an insight of how his influence still affects the current regime.

LFC TV has also been busy and a 'This is Anfield' special at 10pm GMT is the highlight of a Monday evening dedicated to the great man himself.

And that's not all. Past players and important figures of the past will all have their say every night this week as 'What Shankly means to me' airs immediately after LFC Now.

There's also a Kop 10 Shankly signings at 6.30pm on Tuesday and a special show, 'Shankly: He made the people happy' at 9pm.

These are just a taster of what's to come, so if you are unfamiliar with how our great club transformed its fortunes, or simply want to immerse yourself in the memories of the 'good old days', then stay tuned to the official website and LFC TV for what promises to be a fitting tribute week to one of football's most charismatic figures.

Apologies if this is in the wrong area of the forum .
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Postby stmichael » Tue Dec 01, 2009 2:00 pm

The greatest :bowdown
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Postby account deleted by request » Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:11 pm

Along with Bob Paisley, Shanks is without doubt the greatest. Wonderful manager a real character and someone whos passion and love of the game shone through.

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This is how I will always remember him...... holding a cup in his hands.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:35 pm

on winning

"My idea was to build Liverpool into a bastion of invincibility. Napoleon had that idea. He wanted to conquer the bloody world. I wanted Liverpool to be untouchable. My idea was to build Liverpool up and up until eventually everyone would have to submit and give in"

"I want to build a team that's invincible, so that they have to send a team from bloody Mars to beat us."

"If you are first, you are first. If you are second, you are nothing."

on Liverpool fans

"Liverpool were made for me and I was made for Liverpool, and I knew that the people who mattered most were the ones who came through the turnstiles."

"Chairman Mao has never seen a greater show of red strength."

"I'm just one of the people who stands on the Kop. They think the same as I do, and I think the same as they do. It's a kind of marriage of people who like each other."

on Anfield

"Just look at that grass boys, it's great grass, it's professional grass."

"The very word Anfield means more to me than I can describe."

"The word fanatic has been used many times.. I think it's more than fanaticism. It's a religion to them. The thousands who come here, come to worship.. it's a sort of shrine, it isn't a football ground."

on Tommy Smith

"If he isn't named Footballer of the Year, football should be stopped and the men who picked any other player should be sent to the Kremlin"

"Take that bandage off. And what do you mean about YOUR knee? It's Liverpool's knee!"

"Tommy Smith wasn't born, he was quarried."

on his politics

"The socialism I believe in is everybody working for the same goal and everybody having a share in the rewards. That's how I see football, that's how I see life."

"Burns was early socialist - the first was Jesus Christ of course. He didn’t think that God made people to be unequal, he thought everyone should share in the work and the rewards."

"The socialism I believe in is not really politics. It is a way of living. It is humanity. I believe the only way to live and to be truly successful is by collective effort, with everyone working for each other, everyone helping each other, and everyone having a share of the rewards at the end of the day."

on management

"If you can't make decisions in life, you're a bloody menace. You'd be better becoming an MP!"

on directors

"At a football club, there's a holy trinity - the players, the manager and the supporters. Directors don't come into it. They are only there to sign the cheques".

on motivation

"Fire in your belly comes from pride and passion in wearing the red shirt. We don't need to motivate players because each of them is responsible for the performance of the team as a whole. The status of Liverpool's players keeps them motivated."

"It’s the greatest thing in the world, natural enthusiasm. You are nothing without it."

after the all-Red strip was debuted in the rout of European Cup rout of Anderlecht 1964

I went home that night and I said to Ness: "You know something... tonight I went out onto Anfield and for the first time there was a glow like a fire was burning."

to a journalist who criticised his team selection

"Laddie, I never drop players, I only make changes."

on young trialists

"The problem with you, son, is that all your brains are in your head."

"He has football in his blood," the disappointed scout complained. "You may be right," Shanks said, "but it hasn't reached his legs yet"

on Dixie Dean

(at a dinner the day Dixie died)

‘Dixie was the greatest centre-forward there will ever be.

‘He belongs to the company of the supremely great, like Beethoven, Shakespeare and Rembrandt.'

Just days later at Dixie's funeral

"I know this is a sad occasion but I think that Dixie would be amazed to know that even in death he could draw a bigger crowd than Everton can on a Saturday Afternoon".

after winning the FA Cup in 1974

"Since I came here to Liverpool, and to Anfield, I have drummed it in to my players time and again that they are priviledged to play for you... and if they didnt believe me then, they believe me now"

in Rome after beating Moenchengladbach 1977

"This is the greatest night in Liverpool's history. This is the result of planning, of simplicity, of how to play the game in a simple manner. I think the whole world realises that it's the way to play."

on the 'This Is Anfield' sign

"It's there to remind our lads who they're playing for, and to remind the opposition who they're playing against"

after being told he's never experienced a Merseyside derby

"Nonsense! I've kicked every ball, headed out every cross. I once scored a hat-trick; One was lucky, but the others were great goals."

after attending the 1971 FA Cup semi final against Everton whilst unwell

"Sickness would not have kept me away from this one. If I'd been dead, I would have had them bring the casket to the ground, prop it up in the stands and cut a hole in the lid."

on Roger Hunt

"Yes he misses a few, but he gets in the right place to miss them."

on the offside rule

"If a player is not interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage, then he should be."

to a Cockney Red

"Where are you from?"

"I'm a Liverpool fan from London."

"Well laddie . . . . What's it like to be in heaven?"

on Mersey neighbours Everton

"If Everton were playing at the bottom of the garden, I'd pull the curtains."

"The difference between Everton and the Queen Mary is that Everton carry more passengers!"

'Anything off the top?' asked a barber in 1968. 'Aye, Everton'

to an interpreter when surrounded by a group of Italian journalists at an airport

'Just tell them that I totally disagree with whatever they're saying.'

after signing Ron Yeats

"With him in defence, we could play Arthur Askey in goal."

on Brian Clough

"He's worse than the rain in Manchester. At least God stops the rain in Manchester occasionally."

on critics

"They said we were predictable. Well, I think anybody who is unpredictable is a waste of time. Joe Louis was predictable. He would knock a man down on the floor. Goodbye! We were predictable, but the opposition couldn't stop us!"

when Alan Ball signed for Everton

"Don't worry, Alan. At least you'll be able to play close to a great team!"

on how he would like to be remembered

"That I've been basically honest in a game in which it is sometimes difficult to be honest. Sometimes you‘ve got to tell a little white lie to get over a little troublesome period of time. I'd like to think that I have put more into the game than I have taken out. And that I haven‘t cheated anybody, that I‘ve been working for people honestly all along the line, for the people of Liverpool who go to Anfield. I'd like to be recognised for trying to give them entertainment.

"I'd played at Anfield and I knew the crowd were fantastic. I knew there was a public just waiting. So I fought the battles inside and outside. I was interested in only one thing, success for the club. And that meant success for the people. I wanted results for the club, for the love of the game, to make the people happy."

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"I was the best manager in Britain because I was never devious or cheated anyone. I'd break my wife's legs if I played against her, but I would never cheat her."
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Postby Benny The Noon » Tue Dec 01, 2009 6:35 pm

"There's Man.Utd and Man.City at the bottom of Division 1, and by God they'll take some shifting."

“We absolutely annihilated England. It was a massacre. We beat them 5-4.”

“A football team is like a piano. You need eight men to carry it and three who can play the bloody thing.”

“A hundred thousand wouldn’t buy him,” Tommy Docherty said. “And I’m one of the of the hundred thousand,” replied Shankly

“Aye, watch it Bob, it’s very greasy and treacherous out there. Very difficult for goalkeepers.” To Arsenal ‘keeper Bob Wilson before the 1971 Cup Final, one of the hottest days of the year

“Me having no education. I had to use my brains.”
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Postby Madmax » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:02 pm

Great manager...
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Postby NANNY RED » Tue Dec 01, 2009 8:32 pm

Wonderful wonderful man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2NIpPiOY-Q

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Postby kazza » Wed Dec 02, 2009 7:44 am

I am sure there were some fans that criticised everything he did (especially in the early years), claimed they know more, who and how to play. If there was the internet back then, he may not have become the legend he is now. Things were probably said like "Clemence and Keegan, who are they... Not good enough for Liverpool"
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Postby shanklygates » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:30 am

shankly is a legend, taking us from obscurity to a major force in the game.

no matter what trophies managers win, which may in turn make them more successful than shanks, shanks will still remain the best manager we ever had.
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Postby bigmick » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:16 am

There'll never be a "new Shankly" that's for sure. The great man stands alongside our illustrius managers of the past who regularly lifted trophies by the barrowload. People often forget that Liverpool were in the bottom half of the old second division when he took over, he won promotion in his second season and three years later won the league title. He revolutionialised the club from top to bottom.

Legend is an overused word these days, Shankly is a legend. Had the internet been invented when he was the manager, he would of course have had universal support.
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Postby stmichael » Fri Dec 04, 2009 1:18 pm

2 hour shankly special from radio merseyside last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer....12_2009
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Postby Beachdrifter » Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:19 pm

What do you have to do to be posthumously knighted. If ever a man desevers to be then Bill Shankly should be (Saying that so should Kenny Dalglish for what he brought to the game as a player and things he had had to cope with as amand and manager etc), but people like Alex Ferguson, Matt Busby & others have been honured and no matter that I am a Liverpool fan I do not mean it as a slur on them. But Shankly was something THE special one, a one off and as such deserves recognition, even now. And to do it to mark the 50th anniversary of the great man coming to Liverpool Football Club.

Do we organise a petition??? But lets do something
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Postby babu » Sun Dec 13, 2009 5:45 am

You can't be posthumously knighted.
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Postby Ben Patrick » Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:30 pm

I am going to watch the Bill Shankly story tonight at the liverpool empire.
Cant wait, should take my mind off the current situation for a couple of hours.



I will let you all know what it was like tomorrow.
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Postby redhayesy » Mon Dec 14, 2009 8:02 pm

stmichael wrote:2 hour shankly special from radio merseyside last night:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer....12_2009

thanks for that mate, great education programme for anyone who is un-aware of the great man, that has the best statement for me from the his many, legendry quotes- from the LiverpooL museum

'I WAS MADE FOR LIVERPOOL & LIVERPOOL WAS MADE FOR ME'

               for me he really did walk on water!

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