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Postby woof woof ! » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:45 pm

Sabre wrote:Disclaimer: This post was tongue in cheek. There's not a happy clappy camp with tents, maps on the table, and battle plans. :D

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Postby GYBS » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:03 pm

At the end of the day think Rafa will get stick no matter what happens . even if we win the title he will get stick .Its the way some fans are these days .
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Postby Bad Bob » Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:11 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Sabre wrote:Disclaimer: This post was tongue in cheek. There's not a happy clappy camp with tents, maps on the table, and battle plans. :D

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Postby Zidane » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:45 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Sabre wrote:Disclaimer: This post was tongue in cheek. There's not a happy clappy camp with tents, maps on the table, and battle plans. :D

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Postby Petar » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:09 pm

GYBS wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:So in the past when we were finishing forth you were happy with him now while we are top of the league going into xmas after finally beating chelsea at home in the league and man utd you dont like him ?

hahaha,go away,hahahaha... Is champions league title,or FA cup less important than being top of the league in december. You are posting too quick. You must think,you know,before post... Your last post was like this KLAJDJHDSFHIDSHGVLJGNVUHUDJFNVKUDHEUISHUF,So...

And yes beside trophies,how couldn`t I like him,when the man became a new manager,another silly point.

HE CAME,DID SOME GOOD THINGS,SOME BAD THINGS,JUST LIKE THIS SEASON. AFTER 3 SEASONS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL be LIKE THAT FOREVER.

and don`t post me about being first in the league. It is not because of his briliance,it is because  united and chelsea are shiiit so far.

:Oo:

your a strange one indeed . I will consider you more seriously when i actually see you post something positive about Liverpool as so far its been nothing but negative about the club the manager the players - hence why i dont think you are a liverpool fan

hahaha and you will judge if I am good fan or not? I don`t give a fukc about your judgement.

People see,people are not blind mate...
Every season Liverpool FC plays very good football 3 or 4 months per season. That is happening every year when we are out of the title race. And every year people become euforic. I am euphoric too in these days. Remember that game when we won 2-0 at anfield against Chelsea. We closed the gap on about 12 points or something(we were 19 behind in one moment before christmas). We looked very good,we looked like a team that can win the title. WE CAN STILL WIN IT,IF NOT THIS,THEN NEXT YEAR,PEOPLE SAID. and yes,people are not blind,we really looked strong. Next season happened all shitt that is happening this year(we are not going to win the league with these displays,we must raise our form).

All I want to say is people become euphoric when we look like a damn good team,best in England. The fact is,we look like a best team in england only after we are out of the title race.


Last season,I thoughT we will win the league before match against mancs at OT if we beat them,because we played some good football.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BLIND,YOU CAN NOT SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD IF WE ARE RUBISH. IT IS GOOD TO BE FIRST,BUT AT THE END OF THE SEASON
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Postby andy_g » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:20 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Sabre wrote:Disclaimer: This post was tongue in cheek. There's not a happy clappy camp with tents, maps on the table, and battle plans. :D

Damn I was up all night planning this one   :(


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Postby maguskwt » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:20 pm

Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:So in the past when we were finishing forth you were happy with him now while we are top of the league going into xmas after finally beating chelsea at home in the league and man utd you dont like him ?

hahaha,go away,hahahaha... Is champions league title,or FA cup less important than being top of the league in december. You are posting too quick. You must think,you know,before post... Your last post was like this KLAJDJHDSFHIDSHGVLJGNVUHUDJFNVKUDHEUISHUF,So...

And yes beside trophies,how couldn`t I like him,when the man became a new manager,another silly point.

HE CAME,DID SOME GOOD THINGS,SOME BAD THINGS,JUST LIKE THIS SEASON. AFTER 3 SEASONS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL be LIKE THAT FOREVER.

and don`t post me about being first in the league. It is not because of his briliance,it is because  united and chelsea are shiiit so far.

:Oo:

your a strange one indeed . I will consider you more seriously when i actually see you post something positive about Liverpool as so far its been nothing but negative about the club the manager the players - hence why i dont think you are a liverpool fan

hahaha and you will judge if I am good fan or not? I don`t give a fukc about your judgement.

People see,people are not blind mate...
Every season Liverpool FC plays very good football 3 or 4 months per season. That is happening every year when we are out of the title race. And every year people become euforic. I am euphoric too in these days. Remember that game when we won 2-0 at anfield against Chelsea. We closed the gap on about 12 points or something(we were 19 behind in one moment before christmas). We looked very good,we looked like a team that can win the title. WE CAN STILL WIN IT,IF NOT THIS,THEN NEXT YEAR,PEOPLE SAID. and yes,people are not blind,we really looked strong. Next season happened all shitt that is happening this year(we are not going to win the league with these displays,we must raise our form).

All I want to say is people become euphoric when we look like a damn good team,best in England. The fact is,we look like a best team in england only after we are out of the title race.


Last season,I thoughT we will win the league before match against mancs at OT if we beat them,because we played some good football.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BLIND,YOU CAN NOT SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD IF WE ARE RUBISH. IT IS GOOD TO BE FIRST,BUT AT THE END OF THE SEASON

you my friend holds the record for the most number of incomprehensible posts on the forum  :laugh:
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Postby we all dream... » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:21 pm

Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:So in the past when we were finishing forth you were happy with him now while we are top of the league going into xmas after finally beating chelsea at home in the league and man utd you dont like him ?

hahaha,go away,hahahaha... Is champions league title,or FA cup less important than being top of the league in december. You are posting too quick. You must think,you know,before post... Your last post was like this KLAJDJHDSFHIDSHGVLJGNVUHUDJFNVKUDHEUISHUF,So...

And yes beside trophies,how couldn`t I like him,when the man became a new manager,another silly point.

HE CAME,DID SOME GOOD THINGS,SOME BAD THINGS,JUST LIKE THIS SEASON. AFTER 3 SEASONS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL be LIKE THAT FOREVER.

and don`t post me about being first in the league. It is not because of his briliance,it is because  united and chelsea are shiiit so far.

:Oo:

your a strange one indeed . I will consider you more seriously when i actually see you post something positive about Liverpool as so far its been nothing but negative about the club the manager the players - hence why i dont think you are a liverpool fan

hahaha and you will judge if I am good fan or not? I don`t give a fukc about your judgement.

People see,people are not blind mate...
Every season Liverpool FC plays very good football 3 or 4 months per season. That is happening every year when we are out of the title race. And every year people become euforic. I am euphoric too in these days. Remember that game when we won 2-0 at anfield against Chelsea. We closed the gap on about 12 points or something(we were 19 behind in one moment before christmas). We looked very good,we looked like a team that can win the title. WE CAN STILL WIN IT,IF NOT THIS,THEN NEXT YEAR,PEOPLE SAID. and yes,people are not blind,we really looked strong. Next season happened all shitt that is happening this year(we are not going to win the league with these displays,we must raise our form).

All I want to say is people become euphoric when we look like a damn good team,best in England. The fact is,we look like a best team in england only after we are out of the title race.


Last season,I thoughT we will win the league before match against mancs at OT if we beat them,because we played some good football.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BLIND,YOU CAN NOT SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD IF WE ARE RUBISH. IT IS GOOD TO BE FIRST,BUT AT THE END OF THE SEASON

Are you foreign? Because these broken english, unbalanced, un educated ramblings are wearing thin.

Basically you are arguing that in previous seasons we only play well for 3 or 4 months. You are also arguing that we are not playing well, enough at the moment, to win the league.

Well thats OK tho isn't it becasue like you say we play like champions for 3-4months a year, every year, fact, without fail (your view) So.... as we havent been playing well so far (your view) we still have our 4months of greatness to come this season.

Which is brilliant considering we are top of the league already.
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Postby Petar » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:28 pm

we all dream... wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:So in the past when we were finishing forth you were happy with him now while we are top of the league going into xmas after finally beating chelsea at home in the league and man utd you dont like him ?

hahaha,go away,hahahaha... Is champions league title,or FA cup less important than being top of the league in december. You are posting too quick. You must think,you know,before post... Your last post was like this KLAJDJHDSFHIDSHGVLJGNVUHUDJFNVKUDHEUISHUF,So...

And yes beside trophies,how couldn`t I like him,when the man became a new manager,another silly point.

HE CAME,DID SOME GOOD THINGS,SOME BAD THINGS,JUST LIKE THIS SEASON. AFTER 3 SEASONS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL be LIKE THAT FOREVER.

and don`t post me about being first in the league. It is not because of his briliance,it is because  united and chelsea are shiiit so far.

:Oo:

your a strange one indeed . I will consider you more seriously when i actually see you post something positive about Liverpool as so far its been nothing but negative about the club the manager the players - hence why i dont think you are a liverpool fan

hahaha and you will judge if I am good fan or not? I don`t give a fukc about your judgement.

People see,people are not blind mate...
Every season Liverpool FC plays very good football 3 or 4 months per season. That is happening every year when we are out of the title race. And every year people become euforic. I am euphoric too in these days. Remember that game when we won 2-0 at anfield against Chelsea. We closed the gap on about 12 points or something(we were 19 behind in one moment before christmas). We looked very good,we looked like a team that can win the title. WE CAN STILL WIN IT,IF NOT THIS,THEN NEXT YEAR,PEOPLE SAID. and yes,people are not blind,we really looked strong. Next season happened all shitt that is happening this year(we are not going to win the league with these displays,we must raise our form).

All I want to say is people become euphoric when we look like a damn good team,best in England. The fact is,we look like a best team in england only after we are out of the title race.


Last season,I thoughT we will win the league before match against mancs at OT if we beat them,because we played some good football.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BLIND,YOU CAN NOT SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD IF WE ARE RUBISH. IT IS GOOD TO BE FIRST,BUT AT THE END OF THE SEASON

Are you foreign? Because these broken english, unbalanced, un educated ramblings are wearing thin.

Basically you are arguing that in previous seasons we only play well for 3 or 4 months. You are also arguing that we are not playing well, enough at the moment, to win the league.

Well thats OK tho isn't it becasue like you say we play like champions for 3-4months a year, every year, fact, without fail (your view) So.... as we havent been playing well so far (your view) we still have our 4months of greatness to come this season.

Which is brilliant considering we are top of the league already.

NO . I am saying all the time... We play good football when we are out of the title race. I hope I am wrong. Things were like that in previous seasons. Sorry for english
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:29 pm

GYBS wrote:Think your first couple of words pretty much sums you up

I like Benitez when we win,but when we don`t win,I always think that his way is wrong

That just says it all , fair wether - happy to support the manager when we are winning then we are loosing you get on his back . So you must support his way if you like him when we win ? make your mind up .

Exactly what I thought mate.
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Postby we all dream... » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:39 pm

Petar wrote:
we all dream... wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:
Petar wrote:
GYBS wrote:So in the past when we were finishing forth you were happy with him now while we are top of the league going into xmas after finally beating chelsea at home in the league and man utd you dont like him ?

hahaha,go away,hahahaha... Is champions league title,or FA cup less important than being top of the league in december. You are posting too quick. You must think,you know,before post... Your last post was like this KLAJDJHDSFHIDSHGVLJGNVUHUDJFNVKUDHEUISHUF,So...

And yes beside trophies,how couldn`t I like him,when the man became a new manager,another silly point.

HE CAME,DID SOME GOOD THINGS,SOME BAD THINGS,JUST LIKE THIS SEASON. AFTER 3 SEASONS I UNDERSTOOD THAT IT WILL be LIKE THAT FOREVER.

and don`t post me about being first in the league. It is not because of his briliance,it is because  united and chelsea are shiiit so far.

:Oo:

your a strange one indeed . I will consider you more seriously when i actually see you post something positive about Liverpool as so far its been nothing but negative about the club the manager the players - hence why i dont think you are a liverpool fan

hahaha and you will judge if I am good fan or not? I don`t give a fukc about your judgement.

People see,people are not blind mate...
Every season Liverpool FC plays very good football 3 or 4 months per season. That is happening every year when we are out of the title race. And every year people become euforic. I am euphoric too in these days. Remember that game when we won 2-0 at anfield against Chelsea. We closed the gap on about 12 points or something(we were 19 behind in one moment before christmas). We looked very good,we looked like a team that can win the title. WE CAN STILL WIN IT,IF NOT THIS,THEN NEXT YEAR,PEOPLE SAID. and yes,people are not blind,we really looked strong. Next season happened all shitt that is happening this year(we are not going to win the league with these displays,we must raise our form).

All I want to say is people become euphoric when we look like a damn good team,best in England. The fact is,we look like a best team in england only after we are out of the title race.


Last season,I thoughT we will win the league before match against mancs at OT if we beat them,because we played some good football.

PEOPLE ARE NOT BLIND,YOU CAN NOT SAY THAT WE ARE GOOD IF WE ARE RUBISH. IT IS GOOD TO BE FIRST,BUT AT THE END OF THE SEASON

Are you foreign? Because these broken english, unbalanced, un educated ramblings are wearing thin.

Basically you are arguing that in previous seasons we only play well for 3 or 4 months. You are also arguing that we are not playing well, enough at the moment, to win the league.

Well thats OK tho isn't it becasue like you say we play like champions for 3-4months a year, every year, fact, without fail (your view) So.... as we havent been playing well so far (your view) we still have our 4months of greatness to come this season.

Which is brilliant considering we are top of the league already.

NO . I am saying all the time... We play good football when we are out of the title race. I hope I am wrong. Things were like that in previous seasons. Sorry for english

OK, so you are not english, I forgive the grammer and spelling and apologise for being short with you. You don't half ramble on though  :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:59 pm

woof woof ! wrote:TBH I'm completely stumped when it comes to Rafa's apparent "attitude" to Robbie Keane. Having agreed a £20 million fee for the fella you would expect Rafa to be going all out to support, encourage and get the best from the player. Instead it sometimes seems that Rafa's been landed with a player that he didn't really want in the first place, almost shades of Mourinho and Schevchenko. Is it a case of Rafa expecting Keane to do a Torres and immediately step up to the plate and having failed to do so he's now on Rafa's sh'it list ? .

Not noted for putting an arm around players I'm wondering if Rafa has got it wrong on this one, not defending Keane here, but the world and it's dog expected better things from Keane at LFC, whats gone wrong ? surely Rafa bears some responsibility for it ? .

I wonder if Keane wasn't exactly top of Rafa's list of buys in the summer. Maybe he wanted Barry much more? Parry gets the list and goes for the one he likes best, rather than the one Rafa needs most? Pays so much for Keane that we can't afford the others Rafa was after, and totally blows Rafa's transfer plans out the window.
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Postby Rush Job » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:26 pm

s@int wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:TBH I'm completely stumped when it comes to Rafa's apparent "attitude" to Robbie Keane. Having agreed a £20 million fee for the fella you would expect Rafa to be going all out to support, encourage and get the best from the player. Instead it sometimes seems that Rafa's been landed with a player that he didn't really want in the first place, almost shades of Mourinho and Schevchenko. Is it a case of Rafa expecting Keane to do a Torres and immediately step up to the plate and having failed to do so he's now on Rafa's sh'it list ? .

Not noted for putting an arm around players I'm wondering if Rafa has got it wrong on this one, not defending Keane here, but the world and it's dog expected better things from Keane at LFC, whats gone wrong ? surely Rafa bears some responsibility for it ? .

I wonder if Keane wasn't exactly top of Rafa's list of buys in the summer. Maybe he wanted Barry much more? Parry gets the list and goes for the one he likes best, rather than the one Rafa needs most? Pays so much for Keane that we can't afford the others Rafa was after, and totally blows Rafa's transfer plans out the window.

Mate that is exacly as I see it, from reading between the lines and from what has been said Rafa wanted Barry as his big signing and ended up with Keane who was more Parry choice.
The only reason I havent said so is because I know certain people would have seen it as me just trying to remove blame from Rafa so I kept it to myself.
The other thing is when people say how could he spend 20mill on Keane, well HE didnt, Rafa plays no part in monetary negotiations and if he did I dout he would have spent so much on someone who wasnt even his number one target.But obviously thats just my opinion.
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Postby account deleted by request » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:38 pm

Rush Job wrote:
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woof woof ! wrote:TBH I'm completely stumped when it comes to Rafa's apparent "attitude" to Robbie Keane. Having agreed a £20 million fee for the fella you would expect Rafa to be going all out to support, encourage and get the best from the player. Instead it sometimes seems that Rafa's been landed with a player that he didn't really want in the first place, almost shades of Mourinho and Schevchenko. Is it a case of Rafa expecting Keane to do a Torres and immediately step up to the plate and having failed to do so he's now on Rafa's sh'it list ? .

Not noted for putting an arm around players I'm wondering if Rafa has got it wrong on this one, not defending Keane here, but the world and it's dog expected better things from Keane at LFC, whats gone wrong ? surely Rafa bears some responsibility for it ? .

I wonder if Keane wasn't exactly top of Rafa's list of buys in the summer. Maybe he wanted Barry much more? Parry gets the list and goes for the one he likes best, rather than the one Rafa needs most? Pays so much for Keane that we can't afford the others Rafa was after, and totally blows Rafa's transfer plans out the window.

Mate that is exacly as I see it, from reading between the lines and from what has been said Rafa wanted Barry as his big signing and ended up with Keane who was more Parry choice.
The only reason I havent said so is because I know certain people would have seen it as me just trying to remove blame from Rafa so I kept it to myself.
The other thing is when people say how could he spend 20mill on Keane, well HE didnt, Rafa plays no part in monetary negotiations and if he did I dout he would have spent so much on someone who wasnt even his number one target.But obviously thats just my opinion.

Luckily I have no such worries Rushie  :D
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Postby Alex G. » Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:42 pm

Totally agree Rush Job.
Sometimes it seems everything is Rafa´s fault.
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