SupitsJonF wrote:Lando_Griffin wrote:SupitsJonF wrote:Emerald Red wrote:SupitsJonF wrote:Emerald Red wrote:SupitsJonF wrote:1.) Fuck no. Separation of church and state. If im going to pay for education I'll pay for it where its not a brainwashing school.
Good and evil. Right and wrong.
Moral example:
A poor man walks across the street where he shoots an old woman in the face and then steals her money. That's evil, right? Or is it just basic survival?
You tell me. If you think it's evil, then where do you think this moral feeling comes from? If you are familiar with the concept of evil, then you are familiar with the concept of religion.
Should these moral examples be taught to children, and adults alike, to better their character if possible? I say yes. What do you think? The concept of forgiveness, well, that's another complex matter that religion helps us to deal with. I wouldn't exactly call these qualities in a person "brainwashed", would you?
I'm not saying religion is awful, they should continue to go to sunday school, hebrew school, etc. But taxes should not pay for a catholic school, a jewish school, a muslim school, etc. If people want religion/private based schools, they should shell out the extra cash.
Isn't that why the Catholic church and other religions rely on their own funding? Either way, taxes fund schooling, and religion is taught in most schools as a subject. Should it be pulled out of the system altogether? Absolutely not. Religion is part of history, and vice versa. In either case, it should be there as someone's choice.
But if you tax it its not someones choice. A vast majority of people go to public schools opposed to religious schools, so should the majority of people have to pay more taxes just for another choice, even though there is a high probability they won't even use this choice the slightest bit?
Also, I think being civilized plays a huge part in morals. Otherwise that would be like saying if someone is brought up atheist they would'nt have morals. But being civilized as a human also gives us morals. I believe both play a part.
With all due respect, if you wish to live in a Christian Country, you will pay taxes towards the upkeep and longevity of that religion, whether you believe in it or not.
And what would be a list of countries, by religion?
England is a Christian Country. You can't seriously expect me to sit here and list every country under the Christian church and all of its branches?
Although we tolerate the worshiping of other religions, the last time I checked, there was a "Church of England". That is why Councils use our money to put Christmas decorations up. It's why Schools have Nativity plays. It's why Christmas Carols are sung in schools and Council Halls.
Yes, we indulge others, but the country itself is still predominantly Christian, even if it is seen as an embarrassment by some.
(The reason a lot of people have "lost" their faith is because it's no longer rammed down peoples throats. Muslims, etc, are so deeply religious for the opposite.)
IMO, of course.