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bavlondon wrote:The Bush what?

maypaxvobiscum wrote:

bavlondon wrote:The Bush what?

the Bush conspiracy about his family having Nazi links. and also, if you fold your american note the correct way, you will be able to see a pic of the twin towers in flames. and speaking of the twin towers, it itself is no stranger to conspiracy.

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

s@int wrote:I didn't like either of them. McCain is way too old at 72 (maybe I am ageist) and Obama seems an empty suit, no real beliefs, policies or convictions. Politics now seems more about how much money they can spend to get elected and less about what they can do to make life better for everyone. They have advisors coming out of their a$$holes and can't even get dressed in a morning without asking if the underpants go inside or outside!

What do you mean Saint? He has plenty of policies and strategies. For starters there is a massive tax cut coming for many people. He didnt get elected by talking policies.

So he "bought" votes by offering tax cuts to the MIDDLE CLASS not the poor ...... THE MIDDLE CLASS.

NOT EXACTLY A REVOLUTIONARY POLICY.

Great idea to reduce taxes and increase spending when the country owes trillions! AND most of that money will no doubt be spent on imported goods.

bavlondon wrote:

s@int wrote:

bavlondon wrote:

s@int wrote:I didn't like either of them. McCain is way too old at 72 (maybe I am ageist) and Obama seems an empty suit, no real beliefs, policies or convictions. Politics now seems more about how much money they can spend to get elected and less about what they can do to make life better for everyone. They have advisors coming out of their a$$holes and can't even get dressed in a morning without asking if the underpants go inside or outside!

What do you mean Saint? He has plenty of policies and strategies. For starters there is a massive tax cut coming for many people. He didnt get elected by talking policies.

So he "bought" votes by offering tax cuts to the MIDDLE CLASS not the poor ...... THE MIDDLE CLASS.

NOT EXACTLY A REVOLUTIONARY POLICY.

Great idea to reduce taxes and increase spending when the country owes trillions! AND most of that money will no doubt be spent on imported goods.

That's just one of his policies. At the end of the day the majority were tired of the old administration and want a change. it's becasue of the Republican administration that they have gotten themselves (and many other nations) into this financial mess. There is no easy quick fire solution for a problem that was 8 years in the making Saint.

bigmick wrote:I think it is a wonderful thing that Obama got home. The World needs a new direction right about now, and the President of the most powerful country on Earth is one of the few people with the mandate to give it. Every now and then somebody comes along who leaves a footprint in the sands of time, and Obama strikes me as being such a man.

In my lifetime Gorbachev changed the face of the World forever as he was instrumental in the integration of Russia into modern civilisation. Nelson Mandela provided a momentum and a lightening rod for peace and forgiveness long after his reign as South African President had ended. Just occasionally somebody comes along who can see above the parapet, who can reach for the sky and carry people with them.

Like I say I may be wrong but I get the feeling Obama is the real deal. Never before has the World more needed a leader who can lead with inspiration, dignity, undertanding and humility. I listened to his first speech there and he had the tears rolling down me cheeks to tell the truth. Cometh the hour cometh the man and all that stuff, his task is not a small one but my gut feeling is that he is up to it. Good luck to the bloke, we will all benefit in some measure if he can pull it off.

Here, here, mate.  It's a great day for America and for the world--I firmly believe that. 

woof woof ! wrote:Afghanistans' great GYBS, Peace Hotel Khandahar , got hash that will put an elephant on it's ar'se. Ask for "Yusuf" 

  i wish mate - and wish it was a hotel i was going too as well .

GYBS wrote:get us out of iraq and afghan before i have to go there in dec:D

Bad Bob wrote:

bigmick wrote:I think it is a wonderful thing that Obama got home. The World needs a new direction right about now, and the President of the most powerful country on Earth is one of the few people with the mandate to give it. Every now and then somebody comes along who leaves a footprint in the sands of time, and Obama strikes me as being such a man.

In my lifetime Gorbachev changed the face of the World forever as he was instrumental in the integration of Russia into modern civilisation. Nelson Mandela provided a momentum and a lightening rod for peace and forgiveness long after his reign as South African President had ended. Just occasionally somebody comes along who can see above the parapet, who can reach for the sky and carry people with them.

Like I say I may be wrong but I get the feeling Obama is the real deal. Never before has the World more needed a leader who can lead with inspiration, dignity, undertanding and humility. I listened to his first speech there and he had the tears rolling down me cheeks to tell the truth. Cometh the hour cometh the man and all that stuff, his task is not a small one but my gut feeling is that he is up to it. Good luck to the bloke, we will all benefit in some measure if he can pull it off.

Here, here, mate.  It's a great day for America and for the world--I firmly believe that. 

Sabre wrote:I read an African citizen living in my country complaining in the newspaper today.

He claims that Obama is not black, he's a mix (a mulato) because his parents have different colours of skin. He claims then that he can't be considered black. He blames us the whites, of calling black whatever it's not pure white. He says Obama is as white, as black. If he's not white, he's not black either.

Well I had never thought of that. Myself I dream of the day in which it's not "news" to have a black, white, green or yellow president, in the day where it's not even commented as an anecdote. We should leave past centuries of racial wittery behind, and consider all human kind the same.

s@int wrote:I didn't like either of them. McCain is way too old at 72 (maybe I am ageist) and Obama seems an empty suit, no real beliefs, policies or convictions. Politics now seems more about how much money they can spend to get elected and less about what they can do to make life better for everyone. They have advisors coming out of their a$$holes and can't even get dressed in a morning without asking if the underpants go inside or outside!

Obama has LOTS of real beliefs and convictions. However, his voting record was waaaaaay to liberal to win a general election so he had to move a lot towards the center and talk above politics to not lose. Because that was all that was recquired of the Dems, don't it up. And to be fair to Obama, his ground campaign was top notch, and that is what really helped him beat Clinton, plus he had the best internet following.

JoeTerp wrote:

Sabre wrote:I read an African citizen living in my country complaining in the newspaper today.

He claims that Obama is not black, he's a mix (a mulato) because his parents have different colours of skin. He claims then that he can't be considered black. He blames us the whites, of calling black whatever it's not pure white. He says Obama is as white, as black. If he's not white, he's not black either.

Well I had never thought of that. Myself I dream of the day in which it's not "news" to have a black, white, green or yellow president, in the day where it's not even commented as an anecdote. We should leave past centuries of racial wittery behind, and consider all human kind the same.

I was very surprised to see black people in America going as crazy as they did. It was if they announced reparations or something.  Obama has no ties to slavery and he came of age after the main struggles of the civil rights movement, and was raised mostly by his White grandparents and mother.  Normally Blacks vote 90:10  Dem to republican, but this election was something around 150-200:1  Thats crazy. And McCain is a moderate republican.

Also, I found it very strange when Black people celebrated the O.J. Simpson verdict, after he committed double murder and got off.



In case people were wondering I voted for Bob Barr, and I voted for slot machines in race tracks in Maryland AND IT PASSED!!!!!!!

Joe my kids are raised by a balck father (Me) and a white
mother and they still see themselves black or mixed race
and black people still like them