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by **Redman in wales** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 9:15 am

Galatasaray's move for Itandje leaves Liverpool's Carson in limbo

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Galatasaray have made a £2million move for Liverpool goalkeeper Charles Itandje — scuppering Scott Carson's chances of a permanent exit from Anfield in the process.

Former French Under-21 international Itandje, who joined Liverpool from Lens last summer, has agreed a three-year contract with the Turkish champions.

Itandje, 25, made only seven appearances last season — none of them in the Premier League — as cover for Pepe Reina but Liverpool now need to bring in a replacement.

Veteran Bordeaux goalkeeper Ulrich Rame, 35, has been mentioned but otherwise Rafa Benitez wants to keep hold of Carson.

Despite interest from Middlesbrough and Stoke to take him on loan, Benitez has made it clear that he will only let Carson leave on a permanent deal — valuing the England international at £6m.

That has prompted Stoke to offer £1m for Sunderland goalkeeper Marton Fulop instead. Roy Keane will reluctantly sell the 25-year-old but wants double that amount. He turned down a £500,000 offer from Leicester last season.

Grant Leadbitter meanwhile has signed a new three-year dealt at the Stadium of Light. The 22-year-old is now Sunderland’s longest serving player and Keane said: ‘He’s got quality and he’s enthusiastic, he’s a good character. He’s developing and maturing well.’

by **puroresu** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:16 am

Toffeehater wrote:
metalhead wrote:I wouldn't take Podolski, I have said before I don't rate him, yes he have a decent euro, but it doesn't mean he is a good player.

Not a type of striker we are looking for, same class as voronin.

thats a good one tell me another , polodski is excellent , i don't know why you don't rate him , got a great left foot , plays with so much drive and determination , can't believe that he spent most of the season on the bench for bayern

If u watched him for Bayern last season u would of seen why they signed Toni and Klose. Podolski has bee poor at Bayern since he left cologne. in 06-07 season he really struggled and didnt score enough. There is no comparison to what Toni done in his first season at Bayern and what Podolski did in his 1st season.

Its not a surprise he spent last year on the bench at all!!

by **metalhead** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:50 am

Agreed puroresu.

by **Dundalk** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 11:34 am

From Guilem Balagues Website

There have been reports in the British media linking Peter Crouch with both Arsenal and Portsmouth. I can confirm that there is a new contender for the signature of the Liverpool striker: Tottenham Hotspur.

Spurs have approached Liverpool for the player who they see as someone who can occupy the role of Dimitar Berbatov, who they expect will depart before the beginning of the season. The north London club are therefore on the lookout for a striker who can provide similar attacking options to the Bulgarian.

http://www.guillembalague.com/rumores_desp.php?id=27

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:00 pm

Redman in wales wrote:Galatasaray's move for Itandje leaves Liverpool's Carson in limbo

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Galatasaray have made a £2million move for Liverpool goalkeeper Charles Itandje — scuppering Scott Carson's chances of a permanent exit from Anfield in the process.

Former French Under-21 international Itandje, who joined Liverpool from Lens last summer, has agreed a three-year contract with the Turkish champions.

Itandje, 25, made only seven appearances last season — none of them in the Premier League — as cover for Pepe Reina but Liverpool now need to bring in a replacement.

Veteran Bordeaux goalkeeper Ulrich Rame, 35, has been mentioned but otherwise Rafa Benitez wants to keep hold of Carson.

Despite interest from Middlesbrough and Stoke to take him on loan, Benitez has made it clear that he will only let Carson leave on a permanent deal — valuing the England international at £6m.

That has prompted Stoke to offer £1m for Sunderland goalkeeper Marton Fulop instead. Roy Keane will reluctantly sell the 25-year-old but wants double that amount. He turned down a £500,000 offer from Leicester last season.

Grant Leadbitter meanwhile has signed a new three-year dealt at the Stadium of Light. The 22-year-old is now Sunderland’s longest serving player and Keane said: ‘He’s got quality and he’s enthusiastic, he’s a good character. He’s developing and maturing well.’

This doesn't make sense to me...

We clearly have teams interested in Carson and a deal to sell him looks likely this summer. Why then go and sell Itanje for £2m?? That means that we wont sell Carson until we have a replacement. We'll get £5m+ for Carson yet we've cashed in £2m for Itanje...I would've waited to see what happened with Carson before moving Itanje on!!

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:02 pm

If selling Yossi means we can sign Bentley then I would let him go. Perhaps Yossi and Pennant can be make weights for the Bentley deal.

I really rate Yossi (closest thing we've got to Luis Garcia) but if sacrificing him means we can get Bentley then sell him. Bentley will come straight into our 1st team whereas Pennant and Yossi won't.

by **puroresu** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:12 pm

Highly-rated Holland striker Klaas Jan Huntelaar has failed to agree a new contract with Ajax.

Huntelaar has been linked with a number of Premier League clubs, including Manchester United and Arsenal, after his goalscoring exploits for the Eredivisie side.

Ajax technical director Danny Blind admitted that contract talks had failed partly because Huntelaar wanted a release clause written into the deal but felt Ajax wanted to set the price too high.

Huge

"When you look at the Ajax salary structure he could get a huge deal," Blind told De Telegraaf.

"But he doesn't want to see a release clause set at 25million euros (£19.75million) in his contract. We didn't want to go any lower."

However, Blind insists the breakdown in talks does not mean Huntelaar will leave the club any time soon.

Negotiations

"We don't want to see Klaas Jan leave us," he said. "The bar is high. We would like to keep our top scorer in Amsterdam. If he doesn't want to sign a new contract, he still has a deal for the next two years."

Blind also holds out hope that Huntelaar might reconsider.

"The negotiations are stalled," he said. "We have agreed on the fact that Ajax will speak with all clubs that come in for Huntelaar.

"If the interested clubs don't want to pay what we ask for, then we hope that we can start new talks with Klaas Jan again."

by **JC_81** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:33 pm

Thank

we have got rid of Itandje. God forbid Reina never got injured last season because any time Itandje played he was a total liability.

2 million for him is great business. Ideally I'd like us to get an experienced 2nd choice keeper in (I wouldn't be opposed to Harper, Niemi or Rame who have all been mentioned) and sell Carson to generate funds. But even if we can't sell Carson, I'd rather have him on the bench than Itandje just in case.

by **Bad Bob** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 2:55 pm

HacksawJimDuggin wrote:This doesn't make sense to me...

We clearly have teams interested in Carson and a deal to sell him looks likely this summer. Why then go and sell Itanje for £2m?? That means that we wont sell Carson until we have a replacement. We'll get £5m+ for Carson yet we've cashed in £2m for Itanje...I would've waited to see what happened with Carson before moving Itanje on!!

Another way to look at it, mate, is to recognize that teams knew we were desperate to sell Carson and thus figured they could get him at a knock-down price. With Itandje gone--and I agree completely with John that he was a horror show as back-up that needed to be moved on ASAP--we look like we may need Carson and thus can actually flog him for a better price. I suspect we've got something in the works with one of the veteran premiership keepers (names like Niemi and Maik Taylor keep floating about) or could do a deal for one of those lads relatively quickly if we found a buyer for Carson. Worst case scenario is that we use him as a back-up this year and try and get something for him next summer.

by **HacksawJimDuggin** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:01 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
HacksawJimDuggin wrote:This doesn't make sense to me...

We clearly have teams interested in Carson and a deal to sell him looks likely this summer. Why then go and sell Itanje for £2m?? That means that we wont sell Carson until we have a replacement. We'll get £5m+ for Carson yet we've cashed in £2m for Itanje...I would've waited to see what happened with Carson before moving Itanje on!!

Another way to look at it, mate, is to recognize that teams knew we were desperate to sell Carson and thus figured they could get him at a knock-down price. With Itandje gone--and I agree completely with John that he was a horror show as back-up that needed to be moved on ASAP--we look like we may need Carson and thus can actually flog him for a better price. I suspect we've got something in the works with one of the veteran premiership keepers (names like Niemi and Maik Taylor keep floating about) or could do a deal for one of those lads relatively quickly if we found a buyer for Carson. Worst case scenario is that we use him as a back-up this year and try and get something for him next summer.

Good point well presented

It's probably a statement from Rafa to say we don't need to sell Carson so if you want him you need to pay decent ££.

by **Bad Bob** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 4:25 pm

HacksawJimDuggin wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
HacksawJimDuggin wrote:This doesn't make sense to me...

We clearly have teams interested in Carson and a deal to sell him looks likely this summer. Why then go and sell Itanje for £2m?? That means that we wont sell Carson until we have a replacement. We'll get £5m+ for Carson yet we've cashed in £2m for Itanje...I would've waited to see what happened with Carson before moving Itanje on!!

Another way to look at it, mate, is to recognize that teams knew we were desperate to sell Carson and thus figured they could get him at a knock-down price. With Itandje gone--and I agree completely with John that he was a horror show as back-up that needed to be moved on ASAP--we look like we may need Carson and thus can actually flog him for a better price. I suspect we've got something in the works with one of the veteran premiership keepers (names like Niemi and Maik Taylor keep floating about) or could do a deal for one of those lads relatively quickly if we found a buyer for Carson. Worst case scenario is that we use him as a back-up this year and try and get something for him next summer.

Good point well presented

It's probably a statement from Rafa to say we don't need to sell Carson so if you want him you need to pay decent ££.

Well let's hope that's what's going on, anyway. As Big Mick keeps saying, we haven't been the smartest about our approach to this transfer window so I'm hoping this isn't another example of that.

by **destro** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:14 pm

And then you have numpty O'Neil who signs Sidwell to replace Barry but will be left in the sh1t if we now pull out of trying to sign Barry

, which makes me wonder why O'Neil is trying to win a battle of wits with Raffa when he is clearly out of his depth . It all seems to have gone a bit quiet regarding Barry, the past few weeks have either been Barry maybe joining us or Ronaldo going to Real Madrid and only one of those stories is still running :laugh:

Does anyone know if that little Russian fella is going to Barcelona, if he is they should thank Chelsea for paying for him by buying the older and not as good Deco, I would have thought Roman would have had a word with his countryman and told him Chelsea is the team he should be signing for ?

by **JoeTerp** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 5:16 pm

puroresu wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
metalhead wrote:I wouldn't take Podolski, I have said before I don't rate him, yes he have a decent euro, but it doesn't mean he is a good player.

Not a type of striker we are looking for, same class as voronin.

thats a good one tell me another , polodski is excellent , i don't know why you don't rate him , got a great left foot , plays with so much drive and determination , can't believe that he spent most of the season on the bench for bayern

If u watched him for Bayern last season u would of seen why they signed Toni and Klose. Podolski has bee poor at Bayern since he left cologne. in 06-07 season he really struggled and didnt score enough. There is no comparison to what Toni done in his first season at Bayern and what Podolski did in his 1st season.

Its not a surprise he spent last year on the bench at all!!

that team had Roque Santa Cruz, Claudio Pizzaro, and Roy Makaay on it as well. And the whole squad struggled that season. I think he needs a change in scenery. He clearly posses talent, his goalscoring record for his country is extraordinary, and he has set up quite a few goals this tournament as well, and all of this on the back of having no club form to speak of. And he did something similar two summers ago, so he isn't a one time wonder, and he only just turned 23, and like I have said earlier, if we sign him, I think he instantly takes over for Babel in the 4-2-3-1 if we stick with it. His goal tally is nearly equally split between right and left and can send in crosses with either as well.

by **Toffeehater** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:39 pm

puroresu wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
metalhead wrote:I wouldn't take Podolski, I have said before I don't rate him, yes he have a decent euro, but it doesn't mean he is a good player.

Not a type of striker we are looking for, same class as voronin.

thats a good one tell me another , polodski is excellent , i don't know why you don't rate him , got a great left foot , plays with so much drive and determination , can't believe that he spent most of the season on the bench for bayern

If u watched him for Bayern last season u would of seen why they signed Toni and Klose. Podolski has bee poor at Bayern since he left cologne. in 06-07 season he really struggled and didnt score enough. There is no comparison to what Toni done in his first season at Bayern and what Podolski did in his 1st season.

Its not a surprise he spent last year on the bench at all!!

Players improve with time , look at ronaldo in his first season at a big club , yes Toni had a good season at Bayern , so what he was sh!te in the euro , just shows you that when you play against better defenders who are quicker than you . Germen league is poor TBH . I'm not suggesting that podolski would turn into another ronaldo no , i'm just saying that if you play the lad and give him a decent run of games in the side than you might see some results

by **Toffeehater** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:41 pm

JoeTerp wrote:
puroresu wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
metalhead wrote:I wouldn't take Podolski, I have said before I don't rate him, yes he have a decent euro, but it doesn't mean he is a good player.

Not a type of striker we are looking for, same class as voronin.

thats a good one tell me another , polodski is excellent , i don't know why you don't rate him , got a great left foot , plays with so much drive and determination , can't believe that he spent most of the season on the bench for bayern

If u watched him for Bayern last season u would of seen why they signed Toni and Klose. Podolski has bee poor at Bayern since he left cologne. in 06-07 season he really struggled and didnt score enough. There is no comparison to what Toni done in his first season at Bayern and what Podolski did in his 1st season.

Its not a surprise he spent last year on the bench at all!!

that team had Roque Santa Cruz, Claudio Pizzaro, and Roy Makaay on it as well. And the whole squad struggled that season. I think he needs a change in scenery. He clearly posses talent, his goalscoring record for his country is extraordinary, and he has set up quite a few goals this tournament as well, and all of this on the back of having no club form to speak of. And he did something similar two summers ago, so he isn't a one time wonder, and he only just turned 23, and like I have said earlier, if we sign him, I think he instantly takes over for Babel in the 4-2-3-1 if we stick with it. His goal tally is nearly equally split between right and left and can send in crosses with either as well.

, babel can switch to the right flank where he would be more comfortable , or we could partner podolski and torres upfront

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