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Postby JBM » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:49 pm

Reg wrote:Chelsea baulk at Barça's Deco fee   Thursday, June 19, 2008

Deco is close to agreeing personal terms with Chelsea but there is still a wrangle over the fee being demanded by Barcelona. The Spanish club want €20m (£16.7m) for the midfielder even though they have declared he can leave and the Portuguese international turns 31 in August.

Chelsea will not pay more than £10m and Deco's agent, Jorge Mendes, will have to continue negotiating with Barça to reduce the fee for the Brazlian-born player who Luiz Felipe Scolari is keen to make his first signing at Stamford Bridge.

Chelsea's hopes of signing Kaka – always slim despite indicating they will pay whatever it takes to secure the Brazilian international – have received a blow. The 26-year-old told the Brazilian TV channel SporTv that he "appreciated" Chelsea's interest, but said: "Thank you, but I don't have any desire to leave Milan." However, he added the interesting caveat that he would leave if the club wanted to sell him.

Steve Sidwell, meanwhile, has moved a step closer to leaving Chelsea. The 25-year-old midfielder is to hold talks with Aston Villa after a fee of £5.5m was agreed with Chelsea. The only potential stumbling block is persuading Sidwell, who has attracted inquiries from eight other clubs, to take a significant reduction in his wages.

He joined on a free transfer from Reading only last summer and is paid around £55,000-a-week but made just eight league starts last season. Villa are prepared to pay Sidwell around £35,000-a-week and are confident that he will accept their offer.

Sidwell, if he signs for Villa, will be regarded as a replacement for Gareth Barry although manager Martin O'Neill's interest in signing the player is long-standing and, at one time, he hoped to pair him with the England international.

However, it is inevitable that Barry will eventually join Liverpool although Villa are holding out for more than the £13m on offer. It's understood that O'Neill hopes to follow-up Sidwell's signing with a bid for the Valencia right-back Miguel although he is reluctant to meet his £11m valuation .

Both Miguel and Deco are in the Portugal squad for Euro 2008 and the latter has held talks with Internazionale, now coached byJose Mourinho who, like Scolari, is Mendes' client.

However, the Italians are also reluctant to pay the fee demanded by Barça and have also set their sights, firstly, on trying to land Chelsea's Frank Lampard.

The England midfielder, who turns 30 tomorrow, has one year left on his contract and will open negotiations over a new deal when he returns from holiday in the next few days. He is asking for pay parity with the club's highest earner, John Terry, who earns £135,000-a-week although Chelsea are reluctant to pay that amount. This week the Inter pres-ident, Massimo Moratti, declared Lampard as their "number one objective" in the transfer market.

Given that is around what Barry would cost, Deco even at 31 should be looked at.
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Postby Scottbot » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:37 am

Reg wrote:I agree with one of the comments above: You´d have to really stand back and look at Russian football to objectively decide whether a russian lad could adjust to our style.  English football is fast, hard, skilfull, intense and requires 101% concentration. Russian footie.... to be honest I dont know..... however I´m pretty sure its more like Belgian standard than our own. I´d hate to spend 10 million then have to sell him to CSKA Sofia or Warsaw City for 3 million 12 months later because he was overwhelmed by the step up.

Did you not see this lad (and Zenit) tear everyone to pieces in the UEFA Cup this season? He and they have been awesome. I also like the Russian right-back Anykuvo or whatever he's called. One of the most attacking fullbacks i've ever seen.
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Postby JoeTerp » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:50 am

Skrtel came from Zenit he seemed to do pretty well
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Postby Reg » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:19 am

Curious there has been zippo speculation that Pennant is on his way out.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:28 am

Cool Hand Luke wrote:Mauro Zarate, Andrei Arshavin, David Bentley, etc. These are the sort of players who are realistic for us to target and could make a difference. So why are being linked with defenders and second rate English players.

Because they're freaking smokescreens.  Just because we're linked with them doesn't mean we're going to get them.  I truly believe that this is a strategy that Rafa is using in this transfer market.   We're sending out a message that were low on money, because he doesn't want other clubs to know how much funds we actually have.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:32 am

Scottbot wrote:
Reg wrote:I agree with one of the comments above: You´d have to really stand back and look at Russian football to objectively decide whether a russian lad could adjust to our style.  English football is fast, hard, skilfull, intense and requires 101% concentration. Russian footie.... to be honest I dont know..... however I´m pretty sure its more like Belgian standard than our own. I´d hate to spend 10 million then have to sell him to CSKA Sofia or Warsaw City for 3 million 12 months later because he was overwhelmed by the step up.

Did you not see this lad (and Zenit) tear everyone to pieces in the UEFA Cup this season? He and they have been awesome. I also like the Russian right-back Anykuvo or whatever he's called. One of the most attacking fullbacks i've ever seen.

Anukov and Zhirkov are both really great attacking fullbacks, they have really blossomed under Hiddink.  It's a shame that we're not going to look at them since we already got Dossena and Degen.
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Postby Reg » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:08 am

Lots of players look good in their own leagues then struggle to adpt to the english game.... Diao or Diouf anyone?
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:45 am

Reg wrote:Lots of players look good in their own leagues then struggle to adpt to the english game.... Diao or Diouf anyone?

So did Skrtel or Vidic really stand out for you in the Russian league?  You're always going to gamble when you buy players from different leagues, no player is going to guarantee that he will be a success.
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Postby Effes » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:32 am

One of the broadsheets reckons Arsenal are after Arshavin now - I really think
we will have missed something very good if we don't get him.
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Postby ruskiy playmaker » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:02 am

Effes wrote:One of the broadsheets reckons Arsenal are after Arshavin now - I really think
we will have missed something very good if we don't get him.

Well he's going to cost around 20 mill pounds now and I don't see Wenger spending that kind of cash on him, unless they sell Hleb for similar amount.
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Postby JBM » Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:48 am

Ron: I'll quit Utd for Real

By ANTONY KASTRINAKIS

Published: Today

CRISTIANO RONALDO last night uttered the words Manchester United have been dreading: I hope to join Real Madrid in the next few days.
Just minutes after Ronaldo and his Portugal team-mates crashed out of Euro 2008, the winger finally broke his silence over his Old Trafford future — and left no doubt where his heart lies.
Following the last-eight defeat to Germany, he said: “In the next few days there could be news.
“The possibilities of me going to Madrid are great but it does not depend on me.
"I know there is a concrete offer on the table, now let’s see if we can reach a deal in the next days.
"Everyone knows what I want. I have many desires and in the next days they will become clear.”
Ronaldo and his agent Jorge Mendes know Real will table a world-record £80million bid and put enormous pressure on United to accept.
And the next step could be for Ronaldo to go on strike if United refuse to do a deal — as revealed in SunSport.
The former Porto winger fanned the flames by describing a move to Real as "a dream, a step forward".
He added: "For me it's a very good opportunity. As Scolari says, this only happens once."
And asked when he decided he wanted to quit Old Trafford, Ronaldo revealed: "Some time ago, before this competition.
"I didn't want to say anything because we were in competition and these are important decisions."
Ronaldo claimed that leaving United would be difficult but added: "I think it could be good for both of us".
United will be enraged by his comments, having already made it clear they have no intention of selling their prize asset.
Their relationship with Madrid has already hit rock bottom.
They lodged a formal complaint to FIFA over the way Real have openly tried to lure Ronaldo to the Spanish capital.
United’s position has been the same from the start — Ronaldo, 23, signed a five-year contract with them last year and he will remain their player.
Boss Alex Ferguson has always insisted they have no intention of selling him.
And he revealed the club’s owners, the Glazer family, would be willing to let him “rot in the stands” rather than move to the Bernabeu.
Ronaldo will now undergo an operation after being dumped out of Euro 2008.
He added: “I have a small problem with my foot.
“I’ve been playing with it for three months. I’m going to have the operation straightaway.”

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Postby Redman in wales » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:36 am

Liverpool turn transfer sights to Spain's David Silva

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez has added Spain's David Silva to his wish-list, after tiring of 'ludicrous' demands for other summer targets.

And Benitez will be helped in his pursuit of the midfielder as his chief scout is the player's mentor. The player is in the Spain team that has taken the European Championship by storm with a 100 per cent record so far.

But Silva's Valencia club are in financial trouble, and have made it known that they are prepared to sell him and fellow Spain star David Villa.

Benitez has grown tired of the sky-high price tags placed on the wide players he has targeted - with Aston Villa's Gareth Barry, Albert Riera of Espanyol and Newcastle's James Milner all vastly overpriced in his opinion.

After a discreet approach from Valencia, Benitez has expressed firm interest in the left-winger.

The big stumbling block is the fee, with Valencia asking in excess of £20million.

But Benitez believes he has two trump cards.

Firstly, Valencia have to sell because of their money worries, and while they will demand a huge fee, they are almost certain to settle for less.

The La Liga club have to fork out around £20m a month in loans and interest payments on their new stadium.

nd while publicly they insist they do not want to lose any of their big stars, privately they have contacted several clubs to gauge interest in Silva and Villa.



Liverpool are also keen on Villa, but with Real Madrid, Barcelona and Chelsea circling, the striker will be out of any Anfield price range.

But the Reds have a strong connection with Silva that could tip the scales.

Anfield chief scout Eduardo Macia worked with Silva as a youngster at Valencia.

Macia was a youth team coach when the player broke through to their B team. He helped Silva get a loan to feeder club Eibar, which set the winger on the road to glory.

Silva remembers that, and still keeps in touch with his old pal Macia.

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Postby metalhead » Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:10 am

I hope we get David Silva, looks like a very good player indeed, but I don't think he is a better winger than he is a behind a striker.
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Postby stmichael » Fri Jun 20, 2008 11:22 am

Redman in wales wrote: Liverpool turn transfer sights to Spain's David Silva

Liverpool boss Rafa Benitez has added Spain's David Silva to his wish-list, after tiring of 'ludicrous' demands for other summer targets.

And Benitez will be helped in his pursuit of the midfielder as his chief scout is the player's mentor. The player is in the Spain team that has taken the European Championship by storm with a 100 per cent record so far.

But Silva's Valencia club are in financial trouble, and have made it known that they are prepared to sell him and fellow Spain star David Villa.

Benitez has grown tired of the sky-high price tags placed on the wide players he has targeted - with Aston Villa's Gareth Barry, Albert Riera of Espanyol and Newcastle's James Milner all vastly overpriced in his opinion.

After a discreet approach from Valencia, Benitez has expressed firm interest in the left-winger.

The big stumbling block is the fee, with Valencia asking in excess of £20million.

But Benitez believes he has two trump cards.

Firstly, Valencia have to sell because of their money worries, and while they will demand a huge fee, they are almost certain to settle for less.

The La Liga club have to fork out around £20m a month in loans and interest payments on their new stadium.

nd while publicly they insist they do not want to lose any of their big stars, privately they have contacted several clubs to gauge interest in Silva and Villa.



Liverpool are also keen on Villa, but with Real Madrid, Barcelona and Chelsea circling, the striker will be out of any Anfield price range.

But the Reds have a strong connection with Silva that could tip the scales.

Anfield chief scout Eduardo Macia worked with Silva as a youngster at Valencia.

Macia was a youth team coach when the player broke through to their B team. He helped Silva get a loan to feeder club Eibar, which set the winger on the road to glory.

Silva remembers that, and still keeps in touch with his old pal Macia.

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He has a £14m release clause in his contract.
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Postby redsince2001 » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:01 pm

look i havnt seen this guy play that much ... and im waiting to be impressed... but ppl in here seem to rate him very higely and i'l take ur word for it ? but if he's so damn good then how come any of the rich boys aint interested in signin silva? ????
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