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by **NANNY RED** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:34 pm

Just been reading this dont know if its true or not so if you wanna move it mods no probs

Manchester City chief lined up as Parry faces the axe at Liverpool
By Ian Ladyman Last updated at 10:11 PM on 03rd June 2008

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Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry
The future of Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry looks uncertain after it emerged that his opposite number at Manchester City has been approached about his job.

Last season Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks labelled Parry a failure and called on him to resign. Now the Hicks camp have asked Alistair Mackintosh if he would consider a switch.

With Mackintosh unsettled by life under Thaksin Shinawatra at City, a move to Liverpool would be attractive. The nature of his role at City is unclear after the appointment of executive chairman Gary Cook.

If Parry is to keep his job, he must hope that Hicks loses his power struggle with co-owner George Gillett. Hicks' plan to replace Parry will go through if he can persuade his business partner and former friend to sell his stake in Liverpool.

Mackintosh will be seen as a surprise choice in some quarters but it is understood that Hicks has been impressed by the manner in which the 37-year-old chief executive raised City's profile until the sale of the club to Thaksin by former chairman John Wardle last summer.

With Liverpool due to move to a new stadium in nearby Stanley Park in the coming years, Hicks also feels that Mackintosh's experience in relocating City to the City of Manchester Stadium could be a benefit.

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by **Number 9** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:41 pm

NANNY RED wrote:Just been reading this dont know if its true or not so if you wanna move it mods no probs

Manchester City chief lined up as Parry faces the axe at Liverpool
By Ian Ladyman Last updated at 10:11 PM on 03rd June 2008

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Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry
The future of Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry looks uncertain after it emerged that his opposite number at Manchester City has been approached about his job.

Last season Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks labelled Parry a failure and called on him to resign. Now the Hicks camp have asked Alistair Mackintosh if he would consider a switch.

Where did it come from Nan?

Parrys incompetence aside,if its true then it means the Yanks are going nowhere!Bast@rds!

Fu'ck this for a game of darts.
Im sick being in the dark its about time something came out of our club other than rumours,speculation and lies!

I know the press and media make a lot up but surely the fans deserve to know whats going on! from the horses mouth once in a while!

by **Bad Bob** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:42 pm

Moved to the rumour mill.

by **Sabre** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:46 pm

If this is true, I'd see Parry's head as some sort of gift to appease the fans (or maybe Rafa).

It's a classic tactic of a besieged Board (at least here), but I doubt that will be enough to appease the fans whatsoever.

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:49 pm

Number 9 wrote:
NANNY RED wrote:Just been reading this dont know if its true or not so if you wanna move it mods no probs

Manchester City chief lined up as Parry faces the axe at Liverpool
By Ian Ladyman Last updated at 10:11 PM on 03rd June 2008

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Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry
The future of Liverpool chief executive Rick Parry looks uncertain after it emerged that his opposite number at Manchester City has been approached about his job.

Last season Liverpool co-owner Tom Hicks labelled Parry a failure and called on him to resign. Now the Hicks camp have asked Alistair Mackintosh if he would consider a switch.

Where did it come from Nan?

Parrys incompetence aside,if its true then it means the Yanks are going nowhere!Bast@rds!

Fu'ck this for a game of darts.
Im sick being in the dark its about time something came out of our club other than rumours,speculation and lies!

I know the press and media make a lot up but surely the fans deserve to know whats going on! from the horses mouth once in a while!

Just put a bit more in :laugh:

i only copied half of it

Got it from the Daily Mail on line

Suppose well get a interview now from The fat one

:censored:

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Gutted aswell cause i was reading today that Shiekh Hamdan has dclared a 3 day mourning period as one of the other top Shiekhs has been killed in a helicopter crash yesterday. So maybe now he wont attend Epsom at the weekend. I know is me being selfish but i hate them pair of :censored:

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 12:31 am

There has been a lot of rumours for the last month or so that Gillett and Hicks are talking again . I think Parry's leaving would be the first sign that the talks are progressing. Maybe the forerunner to one of them (Hicks) taking full control.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:28 am

People need to put their hatred of Parry aside for a minute this tw@t wants Parry gone so he can load more debt on the club and then have a groundshare both things Parry will not agree to.

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:40 am

Ciggy wrote:People need to put their hatred of Parry aside for a minute this tw@t wants Parry gone so he can load more debt on the club and then have a groundshare both things Parry will not agree to.

Especially as Macintosh basically wrote the football accountants bible on structured debt in 2005/6, allied to a stadium that City neither own or paid for, yet still managed to secure 25 and 15 year loans against.

by **Ciggy** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:54 am

s@int wrote:Especially as Macintosh basically wrote the football accountants bible on structured debt in 2005/6, allied to a stadium that City neither own or paid for, yet still managed to secure 25 and 15 year loans against.

Really saint ? You have to ask yourself how Hicks knows all about him and his stadium dealings in 2005/6 when Hicks hadnt even heard of LFC never mind man City before he took over.

The nightmare continues.

by **redsince2001** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:59 pm

dont think he should be fired in this current state of affairs ....

by **account deleted by request** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 3:09 pm

Ciggy wrote:
s@int wrote:Especially as Macintosh basically wrote the football accountants bible on structured debt in 2005/6, allied to a stadium that City neither own or paid for, yet still managed to secure 25 and 15 year loans against.

Really saint ? You have to ask yourself how Hicks knows all about him and his stadium dealings in 2005/6 when Hicks hadnt even heard of LFC never mind man City before he took over.

The nightmare continues.

Written by Kevin Reed

Accountancy Age, 09 Mar 2006

You might think that chief executive Alistair Mackintosh’s biggest concern at the moment is keeping inspirational manager Stuart Pearce from the clutches of the Football Association as it searches for England’s next manager.

It is not. Strangely enough he is more worried about the Manchester City’s rating in the latest Deloitte football rich list table. As the 17th highest football revenue earner in the world for 2005 at £60m, the club is rubbing shoulders with the likes of Real Madrid and arch rivals Manchester United. ‘If the players get hold of the report they’ll want higher wages,’ he quips.

Behind the joke, the friendly and quietly spoken chartered accountant has proved a steely competitor. Financially astute and determined to maintain rigorous controls over what is widely considered the toughest financial task of all, running a football club and making the numbers add up.

Inevitably, talk turns to the highly publicised shadow of debt hanging over the club. For Mackintosh, the situation is one that has been carefully considered and is a risk well understood and managed. For one thing, he believes the debt, which amounts to around £60m, is well structured. It consists of a £44m securitisation, formed of a £30m tranche payable over 25 years, and £14m payable across 15 years. Most importantly, it is secured against the stadium, which according to the balance sheet is worth £150m.

The stadium is not actually owned by Manchester City FC – but the city council and was passed on to the club following the Commonwealth Games in 2002, on a 250-year lease. The length of the lease effectively means it is ‘as good as’ a freehold.

In a move described by one accountant close to the club as ‘extremely clever’, the club pays a lease fee to the council determined by the number of attendees per games above average, and linked to the inflation rate.

Appearing on the balance sheet as the total to be repaid calculated across the 250 year period, the £42m figure certainly makes an impact. But on a annual basis there is a relatively small effect on the P&L. Its 2005 year end showed £3m in lease payments to the council.

Managed in tandem with long-term deals secured against the stadium, the club is in better financial shape than it has been for years, despite numerous headlines suggesting that the club is ‘saddled’ or ‘struggling’ with debt.

Balancing act

Last week’s interims saw the club report the benefits from the sale of Shaun Wright-Phillips, and the business is looking very settled. But debt management must be balanced with future investment, which, in terms of a football club, means new players.

‘We have flexibility,’ says Mackintosh. ‘Chelsea gave us £24m (for the sale of rising star Wright-Phillips) and the business generates significant cash.’

Yet football club owners and managers are famous for taking risks. Reports even circulated that Mackintosh and then Manchester City chairman David Bernstein were less than impressed by City manager Kevin Keegan’s attempts to continue spending on players.

Mackintosh cites Leeds United’s problems – ‘they invested in top talent, at top prices, with long contracts and a business model based on constant European football’ – as a prime example of a club going too far.

He is set on handling risk as a matter of course, but without strangling the club’s ambitions. ‘There are many ways for clubs to mitigate the risks they face, such as operating flexible contracts with players. Don’t base risk on attaining a great level of success, so you

can control the downside. Monitor wages against turnover – where you finish in the Premiership should be reflected in wage budgets. It’s about being within a responsibly run business, of which accountancy is at the forefront,’ he explains.

The sale of star players often has a destabilising effect on a club. Recent negotiations with central midfielder Joey Barton led to an outburst from the player over the deal offered to him, and his subsequent transfer request was turned down. ‘It’s a natural part of negotiations,’ Mackintosh says philosophically, ‘but generally we don’t like to negotiate through Sky TV’.

His attempt to duck the limelight of Sky Sports is refreshing, especially with broadcasters eager to fill the airwaves with soundbites and comments from ‘football personalities’ such as Portsmouth chairman Milan Mandaric and Chelsea’s chief executive Peter Kenyon.

In fact, Mackintosh’s contributions have been limited to a few short interviews with the local newsmedia. And this despite handling the club’s move from old stadium Maine Road into the City of Manchester stadium.

A year after the Commonwealth Games ended, he took responsibility for the project management of a £20m makeover that transformed the stadium into one ready to handle football crowds week in week out, having negotiated the ‘transfer’ in the first instance.

‘I had daily tasks, cost-benefit analysis on every aspect of the stadium – it’s no problem finding designers to design anything, but the issue comes down to cost value engineering.’ Mackintosh feels his accountancy background held him in excellent stead for the task, describing it as ‘invaluable’ at times. ‘It’s about what you learn in an audit – teamwork, management, preparation, hard work and fun.’

As an accountant at the top of his game, Mackintosh has taken a classic route to get where he is today. Trained at Price Waterhouse, he spent his time in practice working across audit and corporate recovery, including secondments at IBM and Shell. ‘Working at a football club felt new, but my background helped,’ Mackintosh says.

He began at Man City as financial controller and then moved up to the FD role, Mackintosh now hopes his time managing the stadium’s transition won’t be wasted as far as the 2012 Olympics is concerned – although he says he’s not after an executive role.

‘I get on well with Sport England CEO Roger Draper (who quit to join the LTA two weeks ago), and the club has a strong relationship with the public and private sector, in terms of carrying on the Games’ legacy of regeneration in the area.’

Even with his declaration of love for his current role, perhaps Man City fans should worry more about losing Mackintosh to Sport England, than Stuart Pearce to the FA.

Talking tactics

Mackintosh has plenty of ideas about how to better handle the books of football clubs. In particular, he highlights realistic wage structures, which can be altered depending on the club’s success.

He also suggests that keeping tabs on the wage/turnover ratio is a key indicator of whether finances have got out of control.

But NickHumby,group FD of rival club Manchester United, argues that wages/turnover as a control mechanism is 'fraught with problems'. He says that
this does not enable analysts to make valid judgments or comparisons unless they understand the different revenue recognition each club adopts.

But Humby agrees with Mackintosh’s decision to have a variable element to wages and contracts that are flexible depending on performance on the pitch.

Paul Stanley, managing partner for the Northern offices of corporate recovery firm Begbies Traynor, believes there are more fundamental issues facing clubs and their financial management.

‘When a scrap metal merchant or wheeler dealer comes into money and takes over a football club, that person thinks they have hit the bigtime,’ explains Stanley. ‘Any economic rules they've followed in the past to get them where they are, go out of the window.’

Stanley argues that unrealistic expectations are the downfall of many teams, such as eight clubs making big money transfer gambles when there are only three promotion spots to be filled.

Some chairmen have made money by taking risks, Stanley adds, ‘but that
doesn't make them King Midas’.

‘They’re not used to having good controls people around them.’
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