s@int wrote:Phil Thompson went over to Portugal to watch Ronaldo and was reported to have said, " he is not what we are looking for."
Admittedly at the time we were looking for first team players not players with potential, but even so.......
The mancs then failed in their bid to sign Ronaldhino and switched targets, the price rocketed and we lost interest.
When Ferguson asked for advice on how to counter the threat of their Liverpool teammate Ian Rush, neither Kenny Dalglish nor Alan Hansen nor the midfielder Steve Nicol would say anything very helpful. This was in complete contrast to Arthur Albiston, who was happy to advise his fellow Scots on how to handle Manchester United colleague Mark Hugues.
When Stein and Ferguson raised the matter later with Souness, Souness explained it was the Liverpool version of Omerta -- say nothing about anything
One fan, Pete Molyneux, created a banner from a bed sheet, with the stark message "3 YEARS OF EXCUSES AND IT'S STILL... TARA FERGIE"
"It's becoming obvious he's not the man for United" said his former Aberdeen striker Joe Harper, "the club and the job are too big for him". Brian Clough said that he himself should have been made United's manager years ago, while the former Liverpool captain Emlyn Hughes had already awarded Ferguson the OBE -- Out Before Easter
"No, don't worry, I'll win the league, it will just take longer than I thought".
United FA Cup run disguised the fact that their league results had barely improved in the second half of te 1989-1990 season. They had eleven league games without a win between November and February -- their worst run for eighteen years. though long term injuries to Robson and Webb hadn't helped. Their final league position, 13th, was United's lowest placing since relegation in 1974.
The world wasn't convinced that Ferguson could translate his FA cup triumph into inmediate league success. The reality was that Manchester United were still only a good cup-winning side, able to rise to the occasion in knockout ties, but unable to find the needed consistency to win the league
Sabre wrote:Lesson 2: Ferguson also received stick when in his fourth year he wasn't winning the premiership for Manchester United
Fo Dne wrote:Ask yourself, are Liverpool F.C. capable of scoring three or four goals past any of the top sides and winning a match against those team convincingly?
The answer is clearly no.
Can the other top teams do that to us? The answer is they have, numourous times.
We aren't as good as the top three, not even close. We're at least two or three first team players away from being able to challenge.
duk wrote:How far have we progressed? Well we're no closer to winning the league,
bo-lax my friend
we've lost the same number as th mancs this season, too many draws but we aint losin very often
Fo Dne wrote:We aren't as good as the top three, not even close. We're at least two or three first team players away from being able to challenge.
kazza wrote:Fo Dne wrote:We aren't as good as the top three, not even close. We're at least two or three first team players away from being able to challenge.
A few years ago we were six players away. Last year we needed four players to challenge and this year we are two players away.
That is progression and we are not that far away, maybe a summer spending spree. That in spite of how much Utd spend which you know they will.
Fo Dne wrote:Ask yourself, are Liverpool F.C. capable of scoring three or four goals past any of the top sides and winning a match against those team convincingly?
Fo Dne wrote:Can the other top teams do that to us? The answer is they have, numourous times.
Leonmc0708 wrote:Still a few games to go, but heres where I see us at:
Three draws that could/should have been wins, (Wigan (h), Man City (a) and Birmingham (h) are three I would suggest where close enough) and a better reflection of the games against United and Chelsea at home (we outplayed both teams by amile, would have beaten Chelse but for the ref and should have gotten a draw against United) would yeild us 9 points, whilst deducting one from Chelsea and two from United. The table would then look like this:
P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Manchester United 34 24 6 4 72 18 53 78
2 Liverpool 34 22 13 3 60 26 34 75
3 Chelsea 33 22 7 4 58 23 35 73
4 Arsenal 34 20 11 3 64 29 35 71
These changes in results may well have been by not rotating, although an easier way would be the addition of two TOP QUALITY players would have seen us get those points.
Point being, not as far away as some might have us think.
JBG wrote:Leonmc0708 wrote:Still a few games to go, but heres where I see us at:
Three draws that could/should have been wins, (Wigan (h), Man City (a) and Birmingham (h) are three I would suggest where close enough) and a better reflection of the games against United and Chelsea at home (we outplayed both teams by amile, would have beaten Chelse but for the ref and should have gotten a draw against United) would yeild us 9 points, whilst deducting one from Chelsea and two from United. The table would then look like this:
P W D L F A GD Pts
1 Manchester United 34 24 6 4 72 18 53 78
2 Liverpool 34 22 13 3 60 26 34 75
3 Chelsea 33 22 7 4 58 23 35 73
4 Arsenal 34 20 11 3 64 29 35 71
These changes in results may well have been by not rotating, although an easier way would be the addition of two TOP QUALITY players would have seen us get those points.
Point being, not as far away as some might have us think.
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