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by **Effes** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:22 pm

The new stadium plans are just spin

by **stmichael** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:33 pm

All in all I don't get it though. I mean to the untrained eye it's virtually the same design as before as far as I can see. So why the big announcement saying the previous design had to be shelved for a lesser model? Seems such an unecessary fuss over nothing.

by **Bammo** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:41 pm

The "plans" we've been shown are just speculative sketches. It doesn't appear to have changed because it won't look exactly like that anyway.

The cost-cutting was probably on internal parts anyway. They had to find £50m from a £300m+ stadium. Why redesign the whole structure when putting slightly lower quality bogs in saves thousands. It'll be savings like that they'll be doing although I bet the chairmens' executive suite has the same quality of stuff

by **Number 9** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:47 pm

stmichael wrote:All in all I don't get it though. I mean to the untrained eye it's virtually the same design as before as far as I can see. So why the big announcement saying the previous design had to be shelved for a lesser model? Seems such an unecessary fuss over nothing.

Thats the way the building trade works mate!

Planning permission is rarely granted on first application even on a small scale building.

Usually engineers etc. will turn a design down on one or two minor details,ask you to change them and re submit the application...Then they say yeah thats fine work away!

Everyone knows in most cases the first design was flawless.Basically the application has to go through a chain where a lot of people charge money to the wannabe builder for their services.

Its in their interset to say no to the first idea because everyone from the architect up to the council and private engineers that advise them get paid twice!

Its called getting screwed but the planners/builders never argue because the powers that be can become awkward further down the line,so its always accepted not to make waves!Just the way things work!

by **parchpea** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:56 pm

Surley the banks would have wanted to see the plans and drawings for the new stadium given they are lending such a vast amount of cash to fund the project.

Its like asking for a mortgage on a new build house and telling them you do not have any plans or designs.

In view of this I begin to doubt if we are any further forward as they wheel out a picture of the old design stadium that was scrapped, or so we thought.

The plots thickens :down:

by **woof woof !** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:59 pm

Bammo wrote:The "plans" we've been shown are just speculative sketches. It doesn't appear to have changed because it won't look exactly like that anyway.

The cost-cutting was probably on internal parts anyway. They had to find £50m from a £300m+ stadium. Why redesign the whole structure when putting slightly lower quality bogs in saves thousands. It'll be savings like that they'll be doing although I bet the chairmens' executive suite has the same quality of stuff

Plan A

Plan B

Financial problem solved

by **Pedro Maradona** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:40 pm

Ciggy wrote:
stmichael wrote:
Ciggy wrote:I'll have to get me mini skirt on and stilletos and walk along Netherfield road

ciggy tried her best but unfortunately leon wasn't up for it.

Uncanny resemblence

Netherfield road eh? lol

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:46 pm

s@int wrote:
Igor Zidane wrote:I don't give a flying feck to be honest . DON'T FALL FOR IT .It's all a crock off sh!t , and don't be falling for the mascherano business while your at it . They will never ever get my trust or respect again , feckin yanky wapdongs the pair of them

They don't care about Rafa
They don't care about the fans
Liverpool Football Club
Is in the wro.........Ooooooooh loook SHINY!!!!

ripped from RAWK

Don't know why i'm laughing mate , because it's so true.

by **Igor Zidane** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:53 pm

parchpea wrote:Surley the banks would have wanted to see the plans and drawings for the new stadium given they are lending such a vast amount of cash to fund the project.

Its like asking for a mortgage on a new build house and telling them you do not have any plans or designs.

In view of this I begin to doubt if we are any further forward as they wheel out a picture of the old design stadium that was scrapped, or so we thought.

The plots thickens

The banks have only loaned £60 MILLION to G+H for the building work to begin . G+H still have to borrow atleast another £300 million in the futue to carry out the rest of the stadium . That means they will have loaned £650 MILLION to get a new stadium and to be owners of LFC . where do you think they will get the money from to pay back the interest alone year in year out .No chance not in a million years can they pay it back ,not until they sell up that is .

by **zarababe** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:04 pm

I don't want no new stadium :angry:

give us bak our club and we'll find someone else to take us forward !

by **The Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 7:07 pm

I just saw the new pictures on the official site.

The stadium is amazing. Surely the finest design in the world.

Looks like no other stadium I've ever seen.

Fantastic design. Can't wait to see it under construction.

by **Number 9** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:03 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:I just saw the new pictures on the official site.

The stadium is amazing. Surely the finest design in the world.

Looks like no other stadium I've ever seen.

Fantastic design. Can't wait to see it under construction.

It looks like one i seen somewhere before

Just like the one they said they were gonna build the last time!

by **The Manhattan Project** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:04 pm

I would think some interior elements have been dropped like the executive jacuzzis and corporate steamrooms.

The exterior looks the same.

by **Number 9** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:08 pm

The Manhattan Project wrote:I would think some interior elements have been dropped like the executive jacuzzis and corporate steamrooms.

The exterior looks the same.

Yeah and we have concrete blocks for seats now instead of proper chairs,just to save a few dollars!

by **t-h-o-m** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:41 pm

i think it's ugly....and I'm sad of leaving anfield and all the tradition of the place and the stadium

edit: what will happen to anfield then?

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