Islam under the spotlight again - Ludicrous misrepresentation

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Postby dawson99 » Thu Nov 29, 2007 8:07 pm

well, shes got 15 days jail then she'll be deported

"But Sudan's top clerics had called for the full measure of the law to be used against Mrs Gibbons and labelled her actions part of a Western plot against Islam. " These clerics just want shooting. simple as that. they are of no use to the world.
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Postby Woollyback » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:14 pm

they don't need shotting, they need a tardis to whisk them through time from the stone age to the 21st century. but if it crashed on the way and they all died then i might have a little chuckle
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Postby zarababe » Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:14 pm

:( that is awful. What can you say when in this day and age there are such ar.seoles around - terrible !
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Postby metalhead » Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:38 pm

hello_red wrote:Ahh im not sure, religion goes along way to explaining a vast majority of the arab nations mind set. But at the end of the day its always money that talks. However this naming thing happened in the Sudan, where there has been mass ethnic cleansing based on religion so that woman arrested is just a flash in the pan of the religious mind set in that country and to a lesser degree the middle east as a whole. Look at Israel, there not best mates with the Palestinians due to there religion. Its a war over land but its only started by religious differences.

Thats my take  :suspect:

Not the vast majority mate, maybe 2 or 3 countries who use religion as their laws and all.

Sudan is a world 3rd country, so it is easily targeted by fundimentalist extremists to use their propaganda and brainwashing techniques on uneducated and poor sudanese. Its awful, just awful.

The Westerns are the devil  :angry:  :D  I'm just joking.
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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:21 pm

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Postby The Manhattan Project » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:03 am

The sad thing is that for all the BS that radical Muslims come out with about "western infidels" and their apparently hatred/fear of women, those children in that school had no problems with being taught by a white western woman.

Extremism and radicialism poisons people through upbringing.

When they are kids, they have no such hatred.
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Postby Sabre » Fri Nov 30, 2007 12:18 am

metalhead wrote:
hello_red wrote:Ahh im not sure, religion goes along way to explaining a vast majority of the arab nations mind set. But at the end of the day its always money that talks. However this naming thing happened in the Sudan, where there has been mass ethnic cleansing based on religion so that woman arrested is just a flash in the pan of the religious mind set in that country and to a lesser degree the middle east as a whole. Look at Israel, there not best mates with the Palestinians due to there religion. Its a war over land but its only started by religious differences.

Thats my take  :suspect:

Not the vast majority mate, maybe 2 or 3 countries who use religion as their laws and all.

Sudan is a world 3rd country, so it is easily targeted by fundimentalist extremists to use their propaganda and brainwashing techniques on uneducated and poor sudanese. Its awful, just awful.

The Westerns are the devil  :angry:  :D  I'm just joking.

Metalhead, how does your religion as an institution work? I'm a bit ignorant about that.

For instance, catholics have the Pope, and if say, some American religious start a dangerous doctrine or are sending controversial messages, the Pope will say what's the official right   away.

Maybe it's my ignorance, but we here many radical islam voices, and some peaceful islam voices that say that's not islam, but is there some sort of "Pope" that could tell off extremists like Sudan's?
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Postby hello_red » Fri Nov 30, 2007 1:56 am

metalhead wrote:
hello_red wrote:Ahh im not sure, religion goes along way to explaining a vast majority of the arab nations mind set. But at the end of the day its always money that talks. However this naming thing happened in the Sudan, where there has been mass ethnic cleansing based on religion so that woman arrested is just a flash in the pan of the religious mind set in that country and to a lesser degree the middle east as a whole. Look at Israel, there not best mates with the Palestinians due to there religion. Its a war over land but its only started by religious differences.

Thats my take  :suspect:

Not the vast majority mate, maybe 2 or 3 countries who use religion as their laws and all.

Sudan is a world 3rd country, so it is easily targeted by fundimentalist extremists to use their propaganda and brainwashing techniques on uneducated and poor sudanese. Its awful, just awful.

The Westerns are the devil  :angry:  :D  I'm just joking.

Alot of the Arab states are driven by religious law, as we were hundreds of years ago. Swings and round abouts.

Its a pity that woman got caught in the middle of a situation like this. Religion and politics should never mix.
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Postby ConnO'var » Fri Nov 30, 2007 8:33 am

Some of the comments on here are well over the top imo.

I make my livelihood in a muslim country..... My family and I have had no problems whatsoever with the people here and in fact I must say that the neighbours and friends we have now are definitely preferable to some of the garbage I had to put up with while I was at home.

So for me..... it's got nothing to do with the religion..... it's the c*unts out there who stir sh!t and wreak havoc in the name of religion that's the problem.

Some of me best mates here are muslim and they're lovely folk..... Bout the only downside I can think of bout the place, is the difficulty of getting on the grog.

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Postby red37 » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:30 pm

Get on this. F**king sh1thouses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7121025.stm

:no  this country's gone soft in the head for too long now.
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Postby metalhead » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:33 pm

red37 wrote:Get on this. F**king sh1thouses.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7121025.stm

:no  this country's gone soft in the head for too long now.

Thats brainwashing mate...
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Postby metalhead » Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:45 pm

hello_red, I can tell you that Saudi Arabia, Sudan and one more country to think of it that are run by religious laws.

Other Arab countries, are drivin by Secterianism, Autocratic rule and Monarchy. These Arab states, like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Lybia, U.A.E, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, etc... FOLLOWS secular law.

To answer your question Sabre, we don't have a sort of pope, but we do have alot of sheikhs and high power men of religion that would advice you whats wrong and whats right. Its a shame that the radical ones are the most powerful  :(

As I said, the media doesn't help either, they would voice the radicals more than the normal muslims. I've seen so many protests against extremisim in the middle east, Muslims would gather around and protest against radicals, but they don't get too much coverage! We had communism in the 60's, 70's and 80's, now we have Muslim Extremisim in the 90's and present.
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Postby babu » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:57 pm

metalhead wrote:To answer your question Sabre, we don't have a sort of pope, but we do have alot of sheikhs and high power men of religion that would advice you whats wrong and whats right. Its a shame that the radical ones are the most powerful  :(

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Postby hello_red » Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:36 pm

metalhead wrote:hello_red, I can tell you that Saudi Arabia, Sudan and one more country to think of it that are run by religious laws.

Other Arab countries, are drivin by Secterianism, Autocratic rule and Monarchy. These Arab states, like Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Lybia, U.A.E, Bahrain, Kuwait, Jordan, etc... FOLLOWS secular law.

To answer your question Sabre, we don't have a sort of pope, but we do have alot of sheikhs and high power men of religion that would advice you whats wrong and whats right. Its a shame that the radical ones are the most powerful  :(

As I said, the media doesn't help either, they would voice the radicals more than the normal muslims. I've seen so many protests against extremisim in the middle east, Muslims would gather around and protest against radicals, but they don't get too much coverage! We had communism in the 60's, 70's and 80's, now we have Muslim Extremisim in the 90's and present.

Ahh fair doos. Cheers.

What you said about communism and then extremism is true.

Its almost Orwellian that we need an enemy all the time. Drives countries economies.
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Postby Ciggy » Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:15 am

Wow cant believe they want to execute her unbelieveable.  :Oo:
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