LFC2007 wrote:Kharhaz wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Aliens are possible, fairies are possible. It is a question of PROBABILITY.
Fairies? you kidding me? and Santas gonna solve my xmas worries and get my kids what they want.
Absolutely.
Dear Santa....
LFC2007 wrote:Kharhaz wrote:LFC2007 wrote:Aliens are possible, fairies are possible. It is a question of PROBABILITY.
Fairies? you kidding me? and Santas gonna solve my xmas worries and get my kids what they want.
Absolutely.
LFC2007 wrote:You should absolutely be looked at as a nut, IF, you believe that the US gov't undertook a plot to kill their own citizens on 9/11.
Smeg wrote:Having read the thread from start to finish, I really enjoyed it and ALL of the theories raise perfectly vaild questions and all of them are excellent to read. Especially the Paul McCartney one.
You have tried your best to ruin the thread however, and comments such as this above, completely dismisses anything you've said as completely idiotic.
What about Roswell? Do you seriously believe that the world leading Governments want the world to know about these things? Do you seriously believe that these things suggested are impossible?
Human beings are capable of the same things with the same emotions. Obviously there are minor differences, but in general, people are all the same. People covers a murdering pyscho, a footballer, a child, a normal working man/woman. We're all the same with the same emotions, we're all able to kill, we all think...
You're typical arsewhole dismissive attitude towards everything is clear for everyone to see. You continue to live in your little fancy world with media filled opinions lad...
You might think everythings black and white, some of us prefere to think for ourselves.
LFC2007 wrote:Emerald Red wrote:Hold on a second. You made me laugh here. Really. I'm not arguing with you, so why make it out as if I am. I'm not on her preaching theories as if they are truth like they are my own brainchild. .
1. You are supporting a theory that has no credibility, that is derived from far-left lunatics who falsify evidence and who know nothing about the structural causes for the collapse.I'm just pointing them out that there is some valid points to be taken seriously from them
2. I am saying, there is absolutely nothing that can be taken from a conspiracy theory that accuses the U.S. gov't of undertaking a plot to kill its own people.
3. The structural questions are disputed in as far as [B]the way in which the building collapsed[B] can be disputed to have occurred as a result of different structural weakness, the reason for the collapse however, begins and ends with an aeroplane.Though you say that I'd be nuts for thinking the American government wouldn't be capable of killing it's own. How do you know they wouldn't? They have done and still do. Just in different forms or methods.
4. I know that the scope for such a plan to take place is far fetched to the extreme, this is not watergate, this is an accusation of mass genocide without a motive. Since when has the U.S. gov't massacred thousands of its own people on purpose? It hasn't, you would therefore be wrong in your assertion that they have done and continue to do.And why are you asking me to provide answers to things that I didn't even come up with in the first place. Like I say, I just agree with some of the things, and don't with others. I'm not willing to discredit them. It's just my opinion on the matter.
5. You suggest that a plot by the US gov't to rig the WTC with explosives is feasible, yet you provide no motive, and will not be able to provide a motive that is anything like feasible. What forms the basis of a conspiracy theory? A MOTIVE.
Kharhaz wrote:Is there really an area 51? just played Deus Ex and there were a couple on there ! must be true just lost on poker to Roswell the scheming little alien lowlife ! (Hoyle Casino)
Smeg wrote:1. Has no credibility? Why? Because its not "official"? How do you know these people are "lunatics"? That they "falsify evidence"? Or how, even for that matter do you know they have no knowledge of the structure of the building and what would cause such a reaction...
2. Why?
3. And you know this how?
(a) Because this is what the media told you?
(b) Because this is the only "plausible" explaination?
© Because this is the easiest thing to believe?
(d) Because the people who question the government can't possibley be correct?
(e) Because you were there and studied this?
(f) Its just impossible for the government to want to cover something up?
4. So because somethings far fetched that makes it impossible? Unlikely maybe, but not impossible. Theres a saying, "first time for everything". No-one here is making "assertations" that they did, people are questioning whether or not they did.
5. No-one knows the motive. What exactly is anyones motive for doing something. You have no idea what so ever.
Its not beyond the realms of possiblity that they were looking for a way to start a war with the other countries involved. But then, I supose it is as that was never an "official" statement. Basically, you're passing your "opinion and beliefs" off as facts on something you have absoloutely no, if any, only limited knowledge of.
Again, you maybe happy to just sit back and listen to the news. You maybe happy to believe EVERYTHING you hear. There are some of us who prefere to think for ourselves.
I have said it's possible - which makes your quote incorrect,
All of these people, or a vast preponderance of these people would have had to have been aware of such a plot. Otherwise it is simply not possible .
In any case, the collapse of the building CLEARLY indicates that there was no explosion coming from anywhere near the car park. The building pancaked, just viewing the video disproves this idea.
Please explain. The burden of proof is not on me, it's on those who believe the theory
WTC management would also have to be in on it
The racial situation has changed dramatically since the 60's (I presume you're referring to this period). If you are suggesting that black people in the U.S. are being oppressed as a comparison to the oppression in Cambodia and Nazi Germany then you are grossly misinformed.
I'll repeat it again, and again. Yes, it's possible
s@int wrote:I have said it's possible - which makes your quote incorrect,
1. No you are wrong again, you said :-All of these people, or a vast preponderance of these people would have had to have been aware of such a plot. Otherwise it is simply not possible .
To which I replied :-As you or I don't know how the conspiracy of 911 could have been carried out ,I fail to see how you can say all or MOST of these people would have to know, or THAT ITS NOT POSSIBLE. Improbable, unlikely but possible depending on which scenario you do or don't believe.
Your examples are of no practical relevance, as neither you or I know what senario did (or did not )take place.In any case, the collapse of the building CLEARLY indicates that there was no explosion coming from anywhere near the car park. The building pancaked, just viewing the video disproves this idea.
2.No it doesn't.
Please explain. The burden of proof is not on me, it's on those who believe the theory
3.I have stated from the first that I don't believe the theories so I have no burden, I am however open and willing to explore possibilities.WTC management would also have to be in on it
4. No they wouldn't. Just because you quote your opinion as fact doesn't mean it is.The racial situation has changed dramatically since the 60's (I presume you're referring to this period). If you are suggesting that black people in the U.S. are being oppressed as a comparison to the oppression in Cambodia and Nazi Germany then you are grossly misinformed.
5. No it was in reply to your quote that the USA "has no record of oppressing its own people". The USA has a long history of oppressing its people, didn't you know that, or maybe you were just misinformed.
6.I'll repeat it again, and again. Yes, it's possible
Thank you
LFC2007 wrote:Smeg wrote:1. Has no credibility? Why? Because its not "official"? How do you know these people are "lunatics"? That they "falsify evidence"? Or how, even for that matter do you know they have no knowledge of the structure of the building and what would cause such a reaction...
2. Why?
3. And you know this how?
(a) Because this is what the media told you?
(b) Because this is the only "plausible" explaination?
© Because this is the easiest thing to believe?
(d) Because the people who question the government can't possibley be correct?
(e) Because you were there and studied this?
(f) Its just impossible for the government to want to cover something up?
4. So because somethings far fetched that makes it impossible? Unlikely maybe, but not impossible. Theres a saying, "first time for everything". No-one here is making "assertations" that they did, people are questioning whether or not they did.
5. No-one knows the motive. What exactly is anyones motive for doing something. You have no idea what so ever.
Its not beyond the realms of possiblity that they were looking for a way to start a war with the other countries involved. But then, I supose it is as that was never an "official" statement. Basically, you're passing your "opinion and beliefs" off as facts on something you have absoloutely no, if any, only limited knowledge of.
Again, you maybe happy to just sit back and listen to the news. You maybe happy to believe EVERYTHING you hear. There are some of us who prefere to think for ourselves.
1) Has no credibility, not from an official source - or a reliable source but a far-left website with a political agenda, and not supported by the vast majority of people.
2) Why? The evidence provided is false, derived from websites who specialise in this type of thing.
3) No, the offical review confirms this.
4) Far fetched when you analyse circumstance and feasibility - already explained.
5) Why do you think it is called a conspiracy? Because there must be a motive. Otherwise what is the purpose of the conspiracy? You're as thick as sh!t.
You're a suspicion merchant, like some others on this forum are. I question everythjing the media spout, everything the gov't put to us. I refrain from believeing the far-left conspiracy theorists as I know they have a political agenda.
LFC2007 wrote:s@int wrote:No read what I wrote again , I say the fact that I don't believe them doesn't make the possibility of them being true any less, just as if I did believe them that wouldn't make them true.
You believe that there is little evidence to support the theory in your opinion at this moment in time, therefore, the likelihood of it being true must be lessened. The reason you don't believe the theory is down to a lack of evidence, therefore the likelihood MUST be decreased.
It's a clear contradiction.
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