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Postby aCe' » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:00 pm

miserale performance nonetheless... the pennant subs. should have been the first one with momo out !

rafa was very lucky to get anything out of this game and credit to pennant ...

still think that kuyt is rubbish and shouldnt start if we want to win the league next season... decent allround player but not a great striker by any stretch of the imagination !
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:01 pm

Good result (made even better for the fact that West Ham won against Arsenal), scrappy game but at times we just have to grind them out.
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Postby Stu.Murph » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:03 pm

Well Red wrote:
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Well Red wrote:mate, I'm not trying to start a flame war - I just think the comment was laughable considering Rafa's arguably the best manager we've had since Paisley tacitcal-wise :)

I've posted my fair share of decent posts. Listen, we're both Pool fans and share a common interest - I just think it;s ridiculous some fans can be throwing wreaths at Rafa's feet after an amazing European performance in midweek and then calling for his head just a few days later when he's brought on a sub who's now winnning us the game :)

I'm not discussing this at length here and now. If you want to discuss it at length start a thread or read the one I'll start later on tonight.

I'm absoloutely enfuriated by a season that should have ended with number 19 and instead has left me feeling empty and baffled at the numorous woefull performances, decisions by the manager and signings.

He's been average in the transfer market at best and I think we've taken at least two giant steps backwards this season, Losing Kewell wasn't Rafa's fault but other factors, such as playing the right players at times could have been.

you don't sound like a scouser - we just won and the gooners lost for fecks sake!  :p

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Postby Bammo » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:03 pm

well done to pennant and kuyt for changing the game. i've doubted kuyt's ability to play as the lone striker but thankfully he was getting in the box - something he's not been doing recently.

the midfield didn't look up to it today, too many people had bad games. gerrard and mascherano struggled to make 2 passes in a row. we can't expect to rely on momo to set the passing tempo!

on a positive note - we didn't play well but still won, kuyt got a goal and the gooners lost! :D
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Postby Lando_Griffin » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:10 pm

Good result. No two ways about it.

Arsenal have lost, too, which means that even if they win their game in hand, they'll still be 2 points behind us.

The rate they're going, they'll be lucky to get 4th.

Anyhoo...

I haven't seen the game/goals, but it sounds like credit is due to Pennant, Kuyt and Arbeloa.

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Postby J*o*n*D*o*e » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:15 pm

didnt see the first half but we where pretty poor in the second, how many times have we said that this season, yes a win a win but we need to start getting ourselves up for these games.
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Postby lakes10 » Sat Apr 07, 2007 5:15 pm

well it was not an easy game and it never was going to be, but we won and thats all that counts rigt now.

oh and WELL DONE WEST HAM LOL
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:20 pm

Stu.Murph wrote:
Well Red wrote:
Stu.Murph wrote:
Well Red wrote:mate, I'm not trying to start a flame war - I just think the comment was laughable considering Rafa's arguably the best manager we've had since Paisley tacitcal-wise :)

I've posted my fair share of decent posts. Listen, we're both Pool fans and share a common interest - I just think it;s ridiculous some fans can be throwing wreaths at Rafa's feet after an amazing European performance in midweek and then calling for his head just a few days later when he's brought on a sub who's now winnning us the game :)

I'm not discussing this at length here and now. If you want to discuss it at length start a thread or read the one I'll start later on tonight.

I'm absoloutely enfuriated by a season that should have ended with number 19 and instead has left me feeling empty and baffled at the numorous woefull performances, decisions by the manager and signings.

He's been average in the transfer market at best and I think we've taken at least two giant steps backwards this season, Losing Kewell wasn't Rafa's fault but other factors, such as playing the right players at times could have been.

you don't sound like a scouser - we just won and the gooners lost for fecks sake!  :p

give us a smile, lad!

I don't sound like a scouser?

I'd :censored: hope I do lad Living in Liverpool all me life.

:no

I think you need to get out more .

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Postby Well Red » Sat Apr 07, 2007 6:27 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
Stu.Murph wrote:
Well Red wrote:
Stu.Murph wrote:
Well Red wrote:mate, I'm not trying to start a flame war - I just think the comment was laughable considering Rafa's arguably the best manager we've had since Paisley tacitcal-wise :)

I've posted my fair share of decent posts. Listen, we're both Pool fans and share a common interest - I just think it;s ridiculous some fans can be throwing wreaths at Rafa's feet after an amazing European performance in midweek and then calling for his head just a few days later when he's brought on a sub who's now winnning us the game :)

I'm not discussing this at length here and now. If you want to discuss it at length start a thread or read the one I'll start later on tonight.

I'm absoloutely enfuriated by a season that should have ended with number 19 and instead has left me feeling empty and baffled at the numorous woefull performances, decisions by the manager and signings.

He's been average in the transfer market at best and I think we've taken at least two giant steps backwards this season, Losing Kewell wasn't Rafa's fault but other factors, such as playing the right players at times could have been.

you don't sound like a scouser - we just won and the gooners lost for fecks sake!  :p

give us a smile, lad!

I don't sound like a scouser?

I'd hope I do lad Living in Liverpool all me life.

I think you need to get out more .

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Postby account deleted by request » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:17 pm

Glad to see the Mancs lost :D
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Postby The_Rock » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:28 pm

rio ferdinand scores an own goal  :p .......... looks like their luck is changing. Lets hope they go on to get knocked out of the champ league.... :eyebrow

BTW, boring and dull performance...but good result.

Have to add....sissoko is starting to look like traore...Wild tackles and "awesome" number of miss-place passes ........
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Postby Kash_Mountain » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:44 pm

I think Momo's just fatigued but trying hard to please.  Just needs a little bit of time to get back up to scratch.
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Postby stmichael » Sat Apr 07, 2007 10:20 pm

great ball from pennant for the winning goal. the lad deserves to be starting more on current form.
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Postby Bad Bob » Sun Apr 08, 2007 12:38 am

A great result without being a great performance.  The move for the first goal was fantastic and full marks to Arbeloa for a very composed finish.  We were dangerous on the counter throughout the first half and I was sure we'd add to our tally either in the first half or early in the 2nd.  Unfortunately, they scored (a cracking strike too) and that upset the apple cart a bit.  Full credit to Reading for getting after us and having a proper go.

Not to be too negative after a victory, but the problem areas were a bit brighter today.  First, Sissoko continued in his recent mode of giving away possession far too cheaply and giving away free kicks in potentially troublesome areas.  I don't think Mascherano benefitted from playing next to Momo today and I'm sure Gerrard didn't either.  Easily our fourth-choice CM on current form (take that St. Mike! :p ).

Second, Gonzales was poor once again.  His knock it long and run technique has been found out and he's too easily marked out of games like this.  Plus, his end product is hit-or-miss (how many of his crosses got anywhere near a red shirt today).  I can understand giving him a run out today but Riise could have come on much earlier for me.

Finally, what was Rafa thinking with those substitutions?  They couldn't deal with Bellamy's pace and were there for the taking on the counter-attack so why take him off for Kuyt?  Then, he takes Crouch off when we need a goal?  Bringing Pennant on was the right choice but surely Momo should have given way, with Gerrard dropping into CM?  And, if Robbie can't even make the bench for this game there's something significantly wrong with Rafa's notion of rotation.  I was just baffled by Rafa's decisions today.

Nonetheless, job done and another 3 points in a tricky match.  On the plus side, Pennant was very positive and put in several dangerous balls including the match-winner (credit to Kuyt for the composed finish).  I agree with St. Mike that he deserves to start these types of games based on recent form.  Let's hope he starts against PSV.  In addition, Mascherano got more match experience, Sami got a game, Carra and Finnan were their usual assured selves and Arbeloa acquitted himself well at LB too (despite one mistake early on, when he got sucked too far into the middle, gifting Reading a chance).  I think we'll need to up our game against Man City next weekend, though.
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Postby The Manhattan Project » Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:07 am

Good result. Excellent cross from Pennant and a nice finish from Kuyt. Good to see the new boy getting his first goal too.
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