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by **Gaunt** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:16 pm

Fowler_E7 wrote:
bavlondon wrote:
dawson99 wrote:Not being silly or un pc, but it would be nice to have a player whose name i can pronounce for once who we have all seen play and maybe some more english players would be nice. And no, i dont mean that ina racist or any other un pc way.

He is talking about Mascherano. He plays in Spain and is one of the most highly rated defenders around. Surley you will have heard of him Dawson???

And as for Hargreaves i doubt Bayern will let him leave now tha Ballack has left.

I heard M'Boro are sniffin around him but come one lets be honest would you rather play for the best team in Germany or a semi good team in England.

In fact he will probabaly be the captain now at Bayern now that Ballack has gone to Chelsea.

Mascherano is a central midfielder and plays for corinthians in brazil

LMAO

Surely you have heard of him Bav?! :laugh:

by **JC_81** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:27 pm

dawson99 wrote:
john craig wrote:Momo is NOT a defensive midfielder. There is a difference between a tackling midfielder and a defensive holding midfielder, you do not necessarily have to be both. When has Momo ever played a game simply sitting in front of the defence. Never. He chases opponents all over the midfield, closing down space and pressing the ball. Although he is primarily a tackler, his game is more offensive than defensive I think, he is a completely different player to Hamann at the moment, although that does not mean that in time Benitez won't try to hone him into a more defensive sitting midfield player.

Alonso is our defensive midfielder. A far better tackler than some give him credit for, he sits in front of the defence giving good protection, while also acting as a deep-lying playmaker with his impressive range of passing.

If Hamann goes though, I do think we will be a bit light in the centre mid area. There would still be room for bringing in a very young or an oldish experienced player as cover there. Of course the ideal situation for me would be to keep Didi another year.

ok, agreed john, im a little hungover so need a little slack lol.

id like Xavi if anyone just because they click together (him and alonso) for spain.

Apoplogies for the rant Dawson, don't mind me I'm just a grumpy kunt with a hangover today myself :laugh:

by **dawson99** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:36 pm

not a prob, we are all hungover. and im not saying hargreaves is as good as hamman, but he is a german style player whihc is what we need. someone who does the simple pass. its only a drunken thought...

by **tubby** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:41 pm

I think if there is anyone that could fit the bill it is Pablo Aimar. And if im right he is available for around 5M.

by **JC_81** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:59 pm

dawson99 wrote:not a prob, we are all hungover. and im not saying hargreaves is as good as hamman, but he is a german style player whihc is what we need. someone who does the simple pass. its only a drunken thought...

I'm not convinced with Hargreaves, never have been. I've always questioned his selection for England, but that is mainly because he was always played out of position on one side of midfield or at right back. But as a defensive mid he is a good effective player at club level and under the guidance of someone like Benitez I think he's the type of player who'd improve a lot.

I just don't think Benitez would consider him for 2 main reasons. Firstly he's not very good in possession and Benitez obviously favours a holding player that can pass well in the Alonso mould, which is probably why he has been looking at that Argentinian holding player (can't remember his name). Secondly, Hargreaves is rated highly in Germany and it would take 6-8 million to buy him probably, far too much for a back-up player I think.

I think someone like Boateng at Boro would have been a good replacement for Hamann. He was on a Bosman too, but recently signed a new contract. Statistics showed he put in and won more tackles than any other defensive mid in the premiership last season and he's not the worst passer either. A player who I think would benefit from playing with better players. Just another hungover thought

by **gato_busta** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:17 pm

john craig wrote:which is probably why he has been looking at that Argentinian holding player (can't remember his name).

I think you mean that Somoza guy from Velez. Things have been quiet on that front, read somewhere he was currently training with Velez so who knows what will happen there.

by **JC_81** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:34 pm

gato_busta wrote:
john craig wrote:which is probably why he has been looking at that Argentinian holding player (can't remember his name).

I think you mean that Somoza guy from Velez. Things have been quiet on that front, read somewhere he was currently training with Velez so who knows what will happen there.

That's the one, and yeah there's been little talk of that deal recently. If Hamann does go I don't think it's a priority to replace him right away though. It's more important to get a right midfielder and a striker in and to get rid of a few more squad players. We can easily make it to January without really missing Hamann too much I think (touch wood). Alonso, Sissoko, Gerrard and Zenden is enough for the time being so no need to rush out and buy just anyone to fill the role.

by **Smeg** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:48 pm

dawson99 wrote:This is mainly to get rid of the world cup woes,
Thoughts please:

woes..

by **Good Bob** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:01 pm

bavlondon wrote:I think if there is anyone that could fit the bill it is Pablo Aimar. And if im right he is available for around 5M.

What the hell are you on about?

We need a replacement for Hamann, not for Luis Garcia. Where do you get this stupid, idiotic and uninformed opinion that Aimar is a central midfielder?

What makes you think he's available for 5million and what makes you think Valencia want to sell a player of that quality?

You live in a bloody dream world, wake up.

by **JC_81** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:02 pm

Good Bob wrote:
bavlondon wrote:I think if there is anyone that could fit the bill it is Pablo Aimar. And if im right he is available for around 5M.

What the hell are you on about?

We need a replacement for Hamann, not for Luis Garcia. Where do you get this stupid, idiotic and uninformed opinion that Aimar is a central midfielder?

What makes you think he's available for 5million and what makes you think Valencia want to sell a player of that quality?

You live in a bloody dream world, wake up.

I was waiting for someone to take on replying to that post of Bav's :laugh:

The mind boggles.

by **manelele** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:28 pm

Hey, what about Luis Valencia? He's 21 and played very well for Equador on the World Cup this year.

by **looprevil** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:39 pm

Hargreaves would be an intersting pickup. I think he would be a good asset but like someone mentioned i don't think we would get him for cheap. On a personal note it would be cool to have a Canadian connection to the club.

by **The Specialist** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:51 pm

Luis Valencia just signed for Villarreal last year, I doubt he will be going anywhere. He's more of a right-sided midfielder or central attacking midfielder anyway. Nothing like Hamann. He's seen as a good prospect and had a good World Cup, but he was absoule rubbish in La Liga the few times he played before they decided to let him leave on loan..

I don't get why some people are naming players like Mascherano. He would cost more than 15 million pounds..

There was lots of talk of Somoza signing for Liverpool and a deal being agreed, but I haven't heard anything about it in months. I checked around a couple of weeks ago also, and couldn't find anything onther than articles on LFC sites. Where as there were quite a few stories on a number of footie sites previously. Looks like they got it wrong, and took everything down...

by **mikopool** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:03 pm

Living in Canada I would be well happy to see Hargreaves sign, but a player of his calibre would be more so as a starting role, I hardly think we are in critical need of a new midfeilder, and he wouldn't be a good back up for the price. Carrick... same thing.

by **coolsobs** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:11 pm

maybe go abit crazy and splash out on riquelme.

No? i thought not.

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